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Not sure if this is public knowledge yet, but apparently there are quite a few ships receiving main battery range buffs in patch 0.6.3 (most notably IJN DD's):

 

Dunkerque:
-Catapult fighter changed from tier 6 to 7
-HP increased to 1350, DPS increased from 45 to 51

Weymouth:
-Basic main battery range increased from 9.8km to 10.6km

Umikaze/ Tachibana:
-Basic main battery range increased from 6.7km to 8.0km

Isokaze:
-Basic main battery range increased from 8.3km to 9.73km

Kamikaze(s):
-Basic main battery range increased from 7.6km to 8.7km

Mutsuki/Minekaze:
-Basic main battery range increased from 6.9km to 8.1km

Hatsuharu:
-Basic main battery range increased from 8.4km to 9.9km

 

Fubuki:
-Basic main battery range increased from 9.1km to 10.5km

Akizuki:
-Basic main battery range increased from 9.2km to 11.3km

Shimakaze:
-Main battery range increased from 9.81km to 11.4km

Mikasa:
-Main battery range increased from 9.51 km to 11.82 km. (CORRECTED)

Kawachi:
-Basic main battery range increased from 8.9km to 9.9km

Myogi:
-Basic main battery range for Hull A increased from 13.9km to 17.0km, Hull B range also increased, but difference is negligible
-Surface Detectability decreased from 17.1km to 16.6km

Ishizuchi:
-Main battery range increased from 12.9km to 15.3km
-Surface Detectability decreased from 16.6km to 15.2km

Nagato:
-Main battery range decreased from 20.5km to 18.6km

Tenryu:
-Main battery range increased from 9.98km to 11.2km

Kuma:
-Main battery range increased from 11.23km to 11.67km

Furutaka:
-Main battery range increased from 11.79km to 12.62km

Albany:
-Main battery range increased from 8.47km to 9.17km

St Louis:
-Main battery range increased from 9.5km to 11.32km

Phoenix/ Marblehead:
-Main battery range increased from 12.46/12.65km to 13.88km

Omaha:
-Main battery range increased from 13.46km to 14.5km in fully upgraded status (C Hull + Main gun)
-For other configurations, main battery range increased from 11.5km to 13.83km

South Carolina
-Main battery range increased from 10.21km to 14.24km

Wyoming/Arkansas
-Main battery range increased from 10.96km/12.79km(Wyoming Stock/Upgraded)/12.06km(Arkansas) to 14.38km

New York/Texas
-Main battery range increased from 14.16km/15.58km to 16.4km

New Mexico
-Basic main battery range increased from 13.58km to 14.62km

Colorado
-Basic main battery range increased from 15.18km to 17.12km

Hermelin
-Basic main battery range increased from 7.79km to 8.96km

Dresden
-Basic main battery range increased from 8.11km to 9.92km

Colberg
-Basic main battery range increased from 8.27km to 10.08km

Nassau/ Koenig Albert
-Basic main battery range increased from 9.2km/10.84km to 11.8km

Kaiser
-Basic main battery range increased from 13.3km to 14.54km

Koenig
-Basic main battery range increased from 14.54km to 14.99km

https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/03/13/wows-0-6-3-various-changes/#more-44142

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Nice! That Ishizuchi buff is significant.

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Hmm.. might rebuy Omaha then.

 

Don't know why they decreased Nagato's though..

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Nice! That Ishizuchi buff is significant.

 

Time to burn everything.

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Looks like some interesting buffs in preparation for the view range changes.  It makes me wonder if part of the reason for keeping the IJN Destroyer ranges low was to prevent them from stealth firing in the past?

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Nagato nerf... the first BB which really felt good to play for it's range/accuracy...nerfed.

Note that dispersion is at max range... so it's quite a significant nerf !

 

 

The rest is pretty good overall

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Hmm.. might rebuy Omaha then.

 

Don't know why they decreased Nagato's though..

 

Probably a two-fold reason:

 

1) To discourange long range sniping/camping, and

2) To bring her more in line with other ships of the tier (21km range at T7??)

 

Nice! That Ishizuchi buff is significant.

 

I think a few of them are significant.  The Omaha range buff will also be of value as she will be able to get into firing range without being detected first.

 

Glad to see the IJN DD's get some love, even if it's just a little bit.

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Looks like some interesting buffs in preparation for the view range changes.  It makes me wonder if part of the reason for keeping the IJN Destroyer ranges low was to prevent them from stealth firing in the past?

 

Probably. Even with their low ranges, IJN DD's are capable of stealth-firing for a significant distance. If the devs had given them greater ranges, there would have been problems.   

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Nagato nerf... the first BB which really felt good to play for it's range/accuracy...nerfed.

Note that dispersion is at max range... so it's quite a significant nerf !

 

 

The rest is pretty good overall

 

it's a 0.9 km nerf. Not that significant, IMO.   

I can math very well, no? 

Dispersion should be scaled with the range decrease though, so no problem. 

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IJN DD buffs are good

lower tier USN BB range buffs are understandable, they were kind of crapin that regard

buffing KM BB range? why? why do they possibly need more range when they already have best performance?

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Ishizuchi:
-Main battery range increased from 12.9km to 15.3km
-Surface Detectability decreased from 16.6km to 15.2km

 

Ishizuchi:
-Main battery range increased from 12.9km to 15.3km
-Surface Detectability decreased from 16.6km to 15.2km....

 

 

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Now if only they had touched the Kagerou too...

At least I can change up my IJN DDs again so that I don't have to take AFT all the time if I ever wanted to use my guns for more than self defense

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Looks like some interesting buffs in preparation for the view range changes.  It makes me wonder if part of the reason for keeping the IJN Destroyer ranges low was to prevent them from stealth firing in the past?

 

It didnt stop many of the high tiers from stealth firing, fubuki (when she was t8) and up I always ran stealth gunboat builds for fun.

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it's a 0.9 km nerf. Not that significant, IMO.

 

1.9km, not 0.9

 

Again dispersion is at max range, so firing at 18km now will yield worse result than before.  So it's not just the range

And since dispersion is a cone on that max range, it nerfed accuracy at all distances by about 10% (unless they adjust the dispersion too, in which case my point is moot... but not specified so assuming worst)

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I'm glad it looks like marblehead is getting a range buff too

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Now if only they had touched the Kagerou too...

At least I can change up my IJN DDs again so that I don't have to take AFT all the time if I ever wanted to use my guns for more than self defense

 

Yeah, Kagero is missing...

It's one of the ships that really, REALLY, needs buffs to gun range and it's missing.

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1.9km, not 0.9

 

Again dispersion is at max range, so firing at 18km now will yield worse result than before.  So it's not just the range

And since dispersion is a cone on that max range, it nerfed accuracy at all distances by about 10%

 

hopefully they will adjust its dispersion along side the range decrease, just started playing her again and have been enjoying the change of pace.
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I'm glad it looks like marblehead is getting a range buff too

 

Amen, now if we could just fix the MM all would be good.

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I'm happy with the Ishizuchi change. That is probably the biggest deal there. If the dispersion numbers stay the same, which I would assume is the case, the extra range won't really be that useful. Ishizuchi is laughably inaccurate even at 12km. I'm not exactly sure why they bothered nerfing Nagato's range. It won't really impact me any since I almost never shoot at anything that far away, but still.

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hopefully they will adjust its dispersion along side the range decrease, just started playing her again and have been enjoying the change of pace.

 

Agreed.

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I'm happy with the Ishizuchi change. That is probably the biggest deal there. If the dispersion numbers stay the same, which I would assume is the case, the extra range won't really be that useful. Ishizuchi is laughably inaccurate even at 12km. I'm not exactly sure why they bothered nerfing Nagato's range. It won't really impact me any since I almost never shoot at anything that far away, but still.

 

Mikasa Buff is pretty considerable because of same reason it's bad on the Nagato... it will help her dispersion tremendously (if not adjusted).

But I understand not a lot of ppl own/play her =)

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It didnt stop many of the high tiers from stealth firing, fubuki (when she was t8) and up I always ran stealth gunboat builds for fun.

 

Yeah, but add that ability to an old school Isokaze or Minekaze...

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I'm going to assume that linear dispersion stays the same, IE they'll have max dispersion adjusted (increased) for their increased range. Meaning they're neither getting more nor less accurate.

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Nice! That Ishizuchi buff is significant.

 

Yes, it is. The South Carolina range buff is no slouch, either. I may have to buy the SC again, just to try it out with its new long range guns. 

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I just checked one of my ships with a range benefit from AFT, and the "dispersion at max range" value increases when an AFT captain is assigned - i.e., same cone, just some additional range added to the end.  So my bet is that Nagato range is being nerfed without a negative effect on its dispersion, that the displayed value for the dispersion will in fact go down.  The way it is expressed in game has always been weird.

 

Similarly, I'm not beyond believing that the current omission of Kagero is just an oversight.  See the recent non-inclusion of Leningrad on the list of ships to benefit from RU DD HE buff, when in fact it did.  Would be worth pointing out if it is not, though, since it does seem sort of unfair.

 

I guess here is the compensating buff for stealth fire.

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