31 [SF-13] simon70000 Beta Testers 99 posts 3,172 battles Report post #1 Posted March 12, 2017 Hello Captains I been waiting for soviet battleships for a long time and now they are releasing France cruisers and I thought they would do the soviet tech tree first and go to a different country but what a your thoughts with the Soviet Battleships what would be there purposes and skill in the battlefield. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
536 [KNTAI] Battlecruiser_Amagi [KNTAI] Members 3,133 posts 8,684 battles Report post #2 Posted March 12, 2017 Their citadels will be entirely submerged, and their shells will have crazy penetration values. Because of reasons, comrade Did they even have proper BB's in WW2? I can only see an entire lineup of paper ships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
274 Sonoskay Alpha Tester 1,478 posts 3,268 battles Report post #3 Posted March 12, 2017 I am actualy tired of seeing solviet ships. I am tired of them being in my matches, Being added, and being talked about. By all right, frence, brtian, italy, and germany desrve full tech trees before the solviets . Yes I am still very bitter about british ships getting shafted, 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
48 Emothic Members 184 posts 181 battles Report post #4 Posted March 12, 2017 Did they even have proper BB's in WW2? I can only see an entire lineup of paper ships. I don't believe they really even had a navy during World War 2. After the Bolshevik civil war the soviets ordered a dismantle of their navy. Leaving it to a fraction of what it was pre/during World War 1 era. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,097 [KNMSU] Battlecruiser_Repulse Members 7,086 posts 7,766 battles Report post #5 Posted March 12, 2017 Hello Captains I been waiting for soviet battleships for a long time and now they are releasing France cruisers and I thought they would do the soviet tech tree first and go to a different country but what a your thoughts with the Soviet Battleships what would be there purposes and skill in the battlefield. ... ... ... Before British, French, and Italian battleships? ... 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,418 [YIKES] m373x Members 3,880 posts 23,595 battles Report post #6 Posted March 12, 2017 I am actualy tired of seeing solviet ships. I am tired of them being in my matches, Being added, and being talked about. By all right, frence, brtian, italy, and germany desrve full tech trees before the solviets . Yes I am still very bitter about british ships getting shafted, British ships are coming, don' worry. After Russian aircraft carriers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
521 [HINON] Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper Members 2,136 posts 5,764 battles Report post #7 Posted March 12, 2017 No, just no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,785 [WG-CC] LittleWhiteMouse WoWS Community Contributors 12,277 posts 10,382 battles Report post #8 Posted March 12, 2017 Soviet Battleships are likely to have very powerful guns if the early 1:42 scale videos on the subject are anything to go by. Expect them to have very powerful AP shells, probably at the cost of accuracy with a similar dispersion level to American Battleships but not as bad as French or German. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,326 Canadatron Members 5,202 posts 3,461 battles Report post #9 Posted March 12, 2017 16 torps with 12km ranges, smoke, radar, hydro, turtleback Stalinium Armour with a citadel the size of a pizza box. When you can use your imagination because they didn't exist, anything is truly possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
332 hoom Beta Testers 2,580 posts 4,715 battles Report post #10 Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) They're coming but not until at least next year after a bunch of Lines from other navies & rightly so. I'm excited for them. After the Bolshevik civil war the soviets ordered a dismantle of their navy. Wrong. A bunch of ships were lost during the civil war, a big chunk of BSF sided with Whites & escaped out to French North Africa where they were interned, not in good condition when Soviets went to reclaim later & sold for scrap. Quite a lot of ships had been under construction when WWI started but were in bad condition/too outdated to be useful when the Soviets started to rebuild. There was a huge rebuild in progress when Barbarossa started, with most of the ships incomplete & lost with the shipyards, low priority to complete those that escaped/were in safe shipyards. Edited March 12, 2017 by hoom Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,673 [POP] Cruxdei Beta Testers 4,735 posts 7,019 battles Report post #11 Posted March 12, 2017 most of the ships began construction anyway,so in a way they existed. https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/12/29/world-of-warships-soviet-battleship-line-proposal/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,115 Wolcott Alpha Tester 2,552 posts Report post #12 Posted March 12, 2017 I sure would like to see the RU BBs that saw combat service, particularly those from the pre-revolutionary period (still waiting for Borodino to pair with Mikasa). I don't think there should be anymore higher tier BBs until WG resolves the BB overpopulation. Then again, when has WoWS ever introduced partial lines? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
634 [NATO] hipcanuck Beta Testers 2,202 posts 7,500 battles Report post #13 Posted March 12, 2017 The US had enough different types of BB's that they should have a second line The Italians should have their own line The British could likely have two lines The French could have their line. ALL of that needs to happen LONG before WG introduces a line made up mostly of ships that never hit the water or didnt see combat after 1910. It made sense for WG to introduce Russian tanks in droves, Russia was the primary land combatant in WW2. It does NOT make sense (other than to Russians) to put Russian ships into WoWs over any other nation. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Mordecai19 Members 76 posts 2,010 battles Report post #14 Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) In an interview with an employee that works on finding "paper" ships in the archives and designing said ships if there's not much to work on, he stated that according to their documents soviet guns are very good qualities about them. Not the FCS or anything like that, but the guns themselves. He made this statement when asked about what "flavor" will the soviet BBs have. Edited March 12, 2017 by Mordecai19 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,480 Stauffenberg44 Members 4,247 posts 9,871 battles Report post #15 Posted March 12, 2017 They're coming but not until at least next year after a bunch of Lines from other navies & rightly so. I'm excited for them. Wrong. A bunch of ships were lost during the civil war, a big chunk of BSF sided with Whites & escaped out to French North Africa where they were interned, not in good condition when Soviets went to reclaim later & sold for scrap. Quite a lot of ships had been under construction when WWI started but were in bad condition/too outdated to be useful when the Soviets started to rebuild. There was a huge rebuild in progress when Barbarossa started, with most of the ships incomplete & lost with the shipyards, low priority to complete those that escaped/were in safe shipyards. Agreed. As well, the Soviet fleet in the Black Sea was a constant thorn for the Germans, under whose cover numerous naval-amphibious operations were conducted at Sevastopol, Kerch, Novorossiysk to name a few. Given German air power and the deteriorating state of Soviet ships, they wisely maintained a fleet in being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
54 [HOTH] EmGee42 Beta Testers 319 posts 5,250 battles Report post #16 Posted March 12, 2017 Well we have Moskva in game, which is really a BB pretending to be a CA, she has railguns and the ability to bounce 16 inch shells at point blank range. I would expect them to be pretty good in all categories other than maneuverability. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
132 [BS] _Sang [BS] Alpha Tester 527 posts 4,975 battles Report post #17 Posted March 12, 2017 I loved the Russian Battleships in this other game I played, they had american armor and the guns hit hard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,615 [PVE] Kizarvexis Members 19,974 posts 12,663 battles Report post #18 Posted March 12, 2017 Well we have Moskva in game, which is really a BB pretending to be a CA, she has railguns and the ability to bounce 16 inch shells at point blank range. I would expect them to be pretty good in all categories other than maneuverability. Not really. Look at the armor in game. The Minotaur has 101mm citadel armor. The Hindenburg has 110mm, and both the Des Moines and Zao have 152mm. The Moskva has 170mm, so while she has a little more citadel armor, she is in line with the other CAs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 Creepershark77 Members 474 posts 598 battles Report post #19 Posted March 12, 2017 They only had 1 true BB class, and that was the gangut class of battleships. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #20 Posted March 12, 2017 I would expect the lower tier ships to be a bit like the Nikolai (but hopefully not as overpowered), while the high tiers will be a more modern post-war style design. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,995 [KSC] yashma Clan Supertest Coordinator 5,219 posts 8,335 battles Report post #21 Posted March 12, 2017 Hello Captains I been waiting for soviet battleships for a long time and now they are releasing France cruisers and I thought they would do the soviet tech tree first and go to a different country but what a your thoughts with the Soviet Battleships what would be there purposes and skill in the battlefield. Soviet BBs won't be coming until at least 2018 according to the devs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 Creepershark77 Members 474 posts 598 battles Report post #22 Posted March 12, 2017 (edited) Soviet BBs won't be coming until at least 2018 according to the devs. No, they'll come when submarines are released Edited March 12, 2017 by Creepershark77 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,673 [POP] Cruxdei Beta Testers 4,735 posts 7,019 battles Report post #23 Posted March 12, 2017 Soviet BBs won't be coming until at least 2018 according to the devs. damn so i'm living in 2018 now https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/08/15/wows-qa-15th-august-2016-soviet-bbs-coming-next-year/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
791 [GGWP] _Zeka Beta Testers 2,180 posts 10,496 battles Report post #24 Posted March 12, 2017 My guess is that there isnt really enough of them to really make a line out of Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,840 [HINON] Phoenix_jz Privateers, In AlfaTesters 7,775 posts 2,137 battles Report post #25 Posted March 12, 2017 Tier III would have to be paper, tier IV and V could be real, built ships. Everything else is paper, save two half-built projects, at tier VI and IX. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
