2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #1 Posted March 12, 2017 https://wowreplays.com/Replay/31912-Destroyer_KuroshioKai-Estuary https://wowreplays.com/Replay/31912-Destroyer_KuroshioKai-Estuary Why you do this to me!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [BARF] 1nc0mp3t3nt_1 Beta Testers 5,816 posts 5,484 battles Report post #2 Posted March 12, 2017 128mm or 150mm? I didnt watch the replay. Bet you are looking forward to the 0.6.3 concealment buff regardless Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
963 [PLPT] SergeantHop Members 4,435 posts 6,599 battles Report post #3 Posted March 12, 2017 Uh...looks like you did fine to me. Sarcastic thread title, or what? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [BARF] 1nc0mp3t3nt_1 Beta Testers 5,816 posts 5,484 battles Report post #4 Posted March 12, 2017 Uh...looks like you did fine to me. Sarcastic thread title, or what? Of course, its poking fun at how badly underestimated the German DDs are. They really are my favorite line despite them only having one outstanding feature. everything else is good, not great and they quickly lose their HP advantage in the high tiers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,326 Canadatron Members 5,202 posts 3,461 battles Report post #5 Posted March 12, 2017 Posts of this nature are tiresome. I've had 90k games in Tenryu. Should I expect that performance each game? And "concealment buff"? Don't make me laugh. That's like me smashing the windshield in your car, then replacing it and telling you I did you a favour. They are just putting it into the place it should have been all along. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
192 Redaction Beta Testers 1,022 posts 1,161 battles Report post #6 Posted March 12, 2017 Posts of this nature are tiresome. I've had 90k games in Tenryu. Should I expect that performance each game? And "concealment buff"? Don't make me laugh. That's like me smashing the windshield in your car, then replacing it and telling you I did you a favour. They are just putting it into the place it should have been all along. Indeed, anecdotal evidence trying to be portrayed as statistical facts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,673 [POP] Cruxdei Beta Testers 4,735 posts 7,019 battles Report post #7 Posted March 12, 2017 a good match or 2 don't make a trash ship better 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,813 [O7] Pulicat Members 5,393 posts 12,182 battles Report post #8 Posted March 12, 2017 Of course, its poking fun at how badly underestimated the German DDs are. They really are my favorite line despite them only having one outstanding feature. everything else is good, not great and they quickly lose their HP advantage in the high tiers They're underestimated for a reason. You think an outcome like z23 is not done easier with something like ognevoi or benson? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,656 [-K-] Ace_04 Members 8,491 posts 14,883 battles Report post #9 Posted March 12, 2017 Didn't like Z23 much through the original grind, but I'm coming back around a second time and really starting to enjoy her. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,903 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 15,875 posts 12,803 battles Report post #10 Posted March 12, 2017 Re: Maass How do you score 12 torp hits and only net 130k dmg? Presumably, the guns did 4k dmg from 97 hits. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
509 Tigermaus Beta Testers 1,669 posts 8,895 battles Report post #11 Posted March 12, 2017 Re: Maass How do you score 12 torp hits and only net 130k dmg? Presumably, the guns did 4k dmg from 97 hits. The German torps do terrible damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 Gnarspall Members 310 posts 2,643 battles Report post #12 Posted March 12, 2017 I'm keeping Gaede. T22 was bullpucky. Looking forward to the rest of the line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,145 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,093 battles Report post #13 Posted March 12, 2017 I find gaede to be average at best for t6. it can have its moment, but short smoke and meh HE means you have to rely on bad player to show side for AP to work well. I did better with hatsuharu and stock hull . may be it is just me though. hoping maas is more to my liking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
73 [REAL] atl_grunge Members 324 posts 7,553 battles Report post #14 Posted March 12, 2017 Can I ask for your build? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #15 Posted March 12, 2017 Indeed, anecdotal evidence trying to be portrayed as statistical facts. Except I continue to post game after game and my stats reflect that they are not under powered. Maass is probably my favorite Tier 7 DD. Z-46 is my favorite DD in the game. People just took the CC freak out over the nerfs at release and Reddit and here made up their mind that the entire line is crap. Since they play very different than any other nations, and most cant be bothered to learn how to play them they must be broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #16 Posted March 12, 2017 The German torps do terrible damage. The key to German DDs is dot damage or AP DPM. With the fast torp reload you can flood out ships a lot easier than most other DDs. The 128mm have good fire chance to set fires post repairs too. If you flow with an enemy push you can bleed them dry with floods and fires in a hurry. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #17 Posted March 12, 2017 128mm or 150mm? I didnt watch the replay. Bet you are looking forward to the 0.6.3 concealment buff regardless I dont really care about any buffs, I find them strong enough. I prefer the 128mm with AFT. That extra range adds a lot more flexibility and safety. I was messing around with the 150mm since most of my replays are 128mm. I have been trying to help guys in the DD sections of the forum since so many struggle with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #18 Posted March 12, 2017 Can I ask for your build? For randoms I typically run: PT LS, EM/AR depending on turret traverse SE, SI CE, AFT Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [BARF] 1nc0mp3t3nt_1 Beta Testers 5,816 posts 5,484 battles Report post #19 Posted March 12, 2017 Re: Maass How do you score 12 torp hits and only net 130k dmg? Presumably, the guns did 4k dmg from 97 hits. Because a single torp hit does about 8000 damage to a battleship. I dont really care about any buffs, I find them strong enough. I prefer the 128mm with AFT. That extra range adds a lot more flexibility and safety. I was messing around with the 150mm since most of my replays are 128mm. I have been trying to help guys in the DD sections of the forum since so many struggle with them. Yeah. Now that I have over 200 games in my Maass, I have been drafting a thread on that ship. I want to but never seem to be able to finish penning my thoughts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #20 Posted March 12, 2017 Because a single torp hit does about 8000 damage to a battleship. Yeah. Now that I have over 200 games in my Maass, I have been drafting a thread on that ship. I want to but never seem to be able to finish penning my thoughts When you get German DD game play down they are kind of OP. Maass is a damn strong DD. I see why they nerfed sonar and smoke. On 46 and 52 three AP volleys into something broadside is about a torp it of damage. It still surprises me how fast it adds up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #21 Posted March 12, 2017 Re: Maass How do you score 12 torp hits and only net 130k dmg? Presumably, the guns did 4k dmg from 97 hits. The breakdown. I used a lot of HE in this game, thats why there is not nearly as much gun damage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,903 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 15,875 posts 12,803 battles Report post #22 Posted March 12, 2017 50% hit rate with the torps? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,148 [CVLUL] Destroyer_KuroshioKai WoWS Community Contributors 3,460 posts 13,610 battles Report post #23 Posted March 12, 2017 50% hit rate with the torps? In this game yes. The enemy teams BBs wandered off alone. I stalked and ambushed two. They made it easy. I usually have around 11% torp hit rate across all German DDs. The torps dont have huge damage or flood chance, but you hit a lot of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
44 [BOTES] GFischer [BOTES] Members 198 posts 12,201 battles Report post #24 Posted March 12, 2017 Maass is pretty comfy, the ship is really good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,512 [0O0O0] atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,187 battles Report post #25 Posted March 12, 2017 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
