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Now, I wasn't here for that big Alabama-gate stuff, but looking back at it from what's mostly an outsider's point of view, I've come to a bit of a conclusion about it. 

 

Didn't Wargaming always intend to release Alabama to everyone, not just the Supertesters?

I mean, it just seems like that would be the reasonable assumption here. It's just that people heard about the Supertester version first, and assumed that only the ST's were getting the ship. One thing led to another, and things exploded well out of proportion.  

 

This is just my impression looking back on that mess. I know some will say otherwise, but that's what I think. 

 

I'm kinda writing this post for a bit of another reason though. I've seen some people making comments about the release of the Alabama, and concerns over her defects. 

Now, no ship is perfect, and I'm going to be waiting for the more official reviews before making a judgment on how good a ship the Alabama will be. That being said, some seem to have already resigned her as being a stinker. Again, we don't really know yet. From what I've seen thus far though, the thoughts about her among those who have tested her seem to be fairly polarized.

 

 

Please don't flame me for saying this, but hasn't this whole thing been blown slightly out of proportions? Shouldn't we wait at least a little longer before taking out the pitchforks and torches? Or, can we just leave them out of this in the first place? 

 

 

 

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Pretty much hit the nail on the head. Multiple people pointed out that data miners had found two separate entries for Alabama, which wouldn't exist if WG wasnt planning to have two different versions released.

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Now, I wasn't here for that big Alabama-gate stuff, but looking back at it from what's mostly an outsider's point of view, I've come to a bit of a conclusion about it. 

 

Didn't Wargaming always intend to release Alabama to everyone, not just the Supertesters?

I mean, it just seems like that would be the reasonable assumption here. It's just that people heard about the Supertester version first, and assumed that only the ST's were getting the ship. One thing led to another, and things exploded well out of proportion.  

 

This is just my impression looking back on that mess. I know some will say otherwise, but that's what I think. 

 

I'm kinda writing this post for a bit of another reason though. I've seen some people making comments about the release of the Alabama, and concerns over her defects. 

Now, no ship is perfect, and I'm going to be waiting for the more official reviews before making a judgment on how good a ship the Alabama will be. That being said, some seem to have already resigned her as being a stinker. Again, we don't really know yet. From what I've seen thus far though, the thoughts about her among those who have tested her seem to be fairly polarized.

 

 

Please don't flame me for saying this, but hasn't this whole thing been blown slightly out of proportions? Shouldn't we wait at least a little longer before taking out the pitchforks and torches? Or, can we just leave them out of this in the first place? 

 

 

 

 

 

Originally, WG didn't say that there was going to be a non-ST version of the Alabama. Just that they were releasing the ship as a reward for supertesters that have contributed a lot to the program. 

 

As it turns out, a lot of people don't like the supertesters, which caused the world to explode for some when they were "exclusively" getting a highly requested ship. WG later clarified, or acquiesced possibly, and announced that there would be a consumer Alabama for our sailing pleasure.

 

But yes, people need to take a chill pill. 

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Now, I wasn't here for that big Alabama-gate stuff, but looking back at it from what's mostly an outsider's point of view, I've come to a bit of a conclusion about it. 

 

Didn't Wargaming always intend to release Alabama to everyone, not just the Supertesters?

I mean, it just seems like that would be the reasonable assumption here. It's just that people heard about the Supertester version first, and assumed that only the ST's were getting the ship. One thing led to another, and things exploded well out of proportion. 

 

Correct. She had two camouflage files well before Trevzor made the official announcement. The ST ship was leaked and that's what started it. Well, that and rank stupidity.

 

Please don't flame me for saying this, but hasn't this whole thing been blown slightly out of proportions? Shouldn't we wait at least a little longer before taking out the pitchforks and torches? Or, can we just leave them out of this in the first place? 

 

I'm expecting epic levels of molten salt. Anything less than an immaculate boat is going to make certain people very angry. Just ignore it.

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So much salt over a ship that really didn't do jack. Now had it been say Enterprise, yeah I'd of flipped.

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Yup. The community at large learned about the ST version, went ballistic over it, and there was a witch-hunt over ST's... Very messy.

 

And yeah, people ignored everyone who pointed out there were two Alabamas.

 

To be fair, WG did screw up by not clarifying that there was a second Alabama for everyone beyond the At one... But then Again, they probably didn't forsee the sh*tstorm that was going to happen, and didn't think they needed to announce the regular premium so far in advance.

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So much salt over a ship that really didn't do jack. Now had it been say Enterprise, yeah I'd of flipped.

 

Honestly, I would've been more interested in Massachusetts for a SouDak, given her history... And it would've been hugely ironic, given we're getting French Cruisers soon

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Honestly, I would've been more interested in Massachusetts for a SouDak, given her history... And it would've been hugely ironic, given we're getting French Cruisers soon

 

Should of done "STs are getting Massachusetts, everyone can get Alabama". Problem solved. Though some who wanted the Massachusetts would if been ticked, but you can't please everyone.

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Should of done "STs are getting Massachusetts, everyone can get Alabama". Problem solved. Though some who wanted the Massachusetts would if been ticked, but you can't please everyone.

 

Nah, everybody wants everyone else to be exactly equal. That would have started up the "but it's a different ship that I can't get!" stuff. 

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Nah, everybody wants everyone else to be exactly equal. That would have started up the "but it's a different ship that I can't get!" stuff. 

 

True. I hate the players who don't want to lift a finger or drop a dime, but want everything handed to them.

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True. I hate the players who don't want to lift a finger or drop a dime, but want everything handed to them.

 

Unfortunately, they hate those that won't let them have everything. Something something entitlement. 

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I'm expecting epic levels of molten salt. Anything less than an immaculate boat is going to make certain people very angry. Just ignore it.

 

This is the level of salt I am expecting over it. After seeing the reaction to the Alabama-ST announcement... Salar de Uyuni.

 

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Question: Does the ST Alabama have different stats than the regular Alabama?  If so, is the former better stat-wise than the latter?

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Question: Does the ST Alabama have different stats than the regular Alabama?  If so, is the former better stat-wise than the latter?

 

No. From my understanding, only the camo is different along with the ship being called Alabama ST. Otherwise, they are the same ship. 

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No. From my understanding, only the camo is different along with the ship being called Alabama ST. Otherwise, they are the same ship. 

 

Hmmmmmm...

 

I recall seeing that there is a high WR for the Alabama ST.  Is it because the Supertesters are more experienced than the rest of us...or is the ship not actually as bad as people like to make it?

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Hmmmmmm...

 

I recall seeing that there is a high WR for the Alabama ST.  Is it because the Supertesters are more experienced than the rest of us...or is the ship not actually as bad as people like to make it?

 

A combination of both

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Hmmmmmm...

 

I recall seeing that there is a high WR for the Alabama ST.  Is it because the Supertesters are more experienced than the rest of us...or is the ship not actually as bad as people like to make it?

 

People like to forget that Wargaming's normally pretty good about balancing ships.

Sure, there have been some screw-ups along the way. But if they give a ship some weaknesses, it's normally because it has other things to balance it out.

And yeah, the supertesters are normally pretty good players as well.

 

Like I said in the OP, I'm reserving judgement until the actual reviews start coming out. Those should have good, solid data and experience behind them.   

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So much salt over a ship that really didn't do jack. Now had it been say Enterprise, yeah I'd of flipped.

 

This right here amuses the hell out of me. the ONLY claim to fame big A has is *drumroll* being a boyscout destination... 

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Honestly, I would've been more interested in Massachusetts for a SouDak, given her history... And it would've been hugely ironic, given we're getting French Cruisers soon

 

Lol ikr? Massy made hulks out of those French crooz0rz.

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I don't know why there was such a riot over Alabama but not over the other ships the normal costumer will never get. Sure there are some people who want an Iwaki and an Arkansas, but the amount of salt coming from this Alaam discussion was above any measurement. People heard 'an Alabama for STs is coming' and they started to imagine 'so you will never get one MUAHAHAHAHAHA. ST masterrace!!!!' as well.

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I don't know why there was such a riot over Alabama but not over the other ships the normal costumer will never get. Sure there are some people who want an Iwaki and an Arkansas, but the amount of salt coming from this Alaam discussion was above any measurement. People heard 'an Alabama for STs is coming' and they started to imagine 'so you will never get one MUAHAHAHAHAHA. ST masterrace!!!!' as well.

 

Cuz no one really gives 2 rats asses about some washed up old, piece of crappre WWI hunk of scrap metal.  But the Alabama?  yeah, its a pretty big ship I guess.  It isnt a museum ship and attracts alot of people each year and stuff.....

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Cuz no one really gives 2 rats asses about some washed up old, piece of crappre WWI hunk of scrap metal.  But the Alabama?  yeah, its a pretty big ship I guess.  It isnt a museum ship and attracts alot of people each year and stuff.....

 

Let me translate: 'my patriotic side does not allow it that someone gets something that is related to the history of my glorious country. I won't listen to things like reason or patience, I must act before all the details are revealed!'

 

Close enough

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Let me translate: 'my patriotic side does not allow it that someone gets something that is related to the history of my glorious country. I won't listen to things like reason or patience, I must act before all the details are revealed!'

 

Close enough

 

LOL

 

That retort is a few months late. :teethhappy:

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Simply put: That old fiasco was a nasty time for this forum for either side of the argument.

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You mean the part where WG backpedaled as hard as possible after multiple WG employees on several servers stated without a shadow of a doubt that the ship was never going to be sold to players.

 

Maybe they did plan on selling it eventually, but a few WG people chose to really, REALLY poorly word their responses, hence the [edited]fest that ensued.

 

 

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