0 Hoskuld_RainBringer Members 1 post 1,486 battles Report post #1 Posted March 6, 2017 Do you think the new Minsk could be effective in ranked battles? I think with its reduced detection over the Kiev, it might be more useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,850 [AXANR] poeticmotion Members 3,650 posts 23,502 battles Report post #2 Posted March 6, 2017 If you're a strong Kiev or Leningrad player in ranked, yes. If not, no. But most players should not be using Minsk as they haven't had time to learn how to use the ship well. Ranked is not the place to learn a new ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #3 Posted March 6, 2017 no. Kiev is not good as it was.... unless you were REALLY good in it... the Minsk>>>?? Meh,, it is a leningrad really..., not for everyone... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #4 Posted March 6, 2017 If you're a strong Kiev or Leningrad player in ranked, yes. If not, no. But most players should not be using Minsk as they haven't had time to learn how to use the ship well. Ranked is not the place to learn a new ship. it is if you are the red team.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,850 [AXANR] poeticmotion Members 3,650 posts 23,502 battles Report post #5 Posted March 6, 2017 it is if you are the red team.... The funny thing is you're one of the very few players I've seen do well in ranked with a Kiev. I forget when it was but I remember playing against you in your Kiev and you were giving me fits trying to hit you. You made that damn ship dance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
649 [D6] Nachoo31 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,051 posts Report post #6 Posted March 6, 2017 Go for it. Make the world burn. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,640 [WOLF1] pmgaudio Members 9,915 posts 18,626 battles Report post #7 Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) The funny thing is you're one of the very few players I've seen do well in ranked with a Kiev. I forget when it was but I remember playing against you in your Kiev and you were giving me fits trying to hit you. You made that damn ship dance. AH yes I remember...thank you for that compliment.. I do quite well in her when I ignore my salty team mates yelling at me to stop going in a big circle, (burning the hell out of every ship in range while they all shoot at me, and my team has free range, but instead yells at me.... LOL)but lately my Shirat has more to offer.... a stealthy torpedo factory.... and spotting ninja... Edited March 6, 2017 by pmgaudio Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #8 Posted March 6, 2017 You just have to keep in mind that soviet DDs require a completely different mindset when it comes to map control. They work best on the flanks, rather than on cap. However, this can be a double edged sword, when it ends up being only 1DD on each side and your team has no radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,850 [AXANR] poeticmotion Members 3,650 posts 23,502 battles Report post #9 Posted March 6, 2017 AH yes I remember...thank you for that compliment.. I do quite well in here when I ignore my salty team mates yelling at me to stop going in a big circle, (burning the hell out of every ship in range while they all shoot at me, and my team has free range, but instead yells at me.... LOL)but lately my Shirat has more to offer.... a stealthy torpedo factory.... and spotting ninja... You were doing it right. Kiev should be drawing attention, speed tanking and drawing fire that never hits. I fell for it perfectly....I was determined to take you down and passing up shots I should have taken on easier targets. o/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
180 [TSG4R] ForgMaxtor [TSG4R] Members 972 posts 5,062 battles Report post #10 Posted March 6, 2017 You just have to keep in mind that soviet DDs require a completely different mindset when it comes to map control. They work best on the flanks, rather than on cap. However, this can be a double edged sword, when it ends up being only 1DD on each side and your team has no radar. This. I've seen Kiev do some very good work on Ranked, but generally when there's another, stealthier DD on the team that can do the capping and torp-into-smokes jobs. This frees the Kiev to roam and shoot at will. Minsk is I guess a little more flexible in that it has adequate stealth, but I still think it's going to be at the mercy of matchmaking in that it wants a partner like a Sims or Shiratsuyu on the same team. Although otherwise very similar to the Minsk, Leningrad is a little different because it can flex into the stealth-torp role if it needs to. Not as well as Shiratsuyu or even Sims, I think, but well enough to serve if this is what is needed to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [KILL] vonluckner Members 589 posts 8,671 battles Report post #11 Posted March 6, 2017 Looking at the stats, the Leningrad is just better than the Minsk. The Minsk really only gets a very small range advantage with the main armament, and a torpedo alpha increase. Leningrad gets marginally better stealth, but more importantly it has access to 8km torps. Given the Leningrad already isn't a top pick for ranked, I doubt the Minsk will find its way into the meta. The Kiev wasn't really a top pick either, but it had a niche as a fast, long range harasser- having better gun range than the Leningrad and Minsk. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
