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Poor, Poor Emerald

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[RESP] Stampz 241
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Up to the Fiji now, the British line has been good to me.  My Fiji win % is down, but that's cause it's a small sample with the ship still stock.  Fairly sure once I get a few more games in her, it'll climb back up.

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[NASTY] icehaddock 4
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my emerald experience was binary.  I had either bad games where I got deleted early or I had good games.  I once sunk 6 ships in a game  Only done that once before and that was in Isokaze.

Leander is  better but for whatever reason my relative performance in Leander is much worse than in Emerald in every way.   Go figure that one out

 

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I sold Emerald to rebuy my Mogami, I gave up on her. I want to get some gold so I can just free XP out of this PoS so I can enjoy the real Brit cruisers starting at Leander and then at Fiji.

 

~Hunter

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Here is the formula:  PA + SR = TF

Paper Armor + Short Range = Total Failure

 

Ships with paper thin armor can be OK if they have decent range on their guns, but crapwagons like the Emerald that force you to be close are near suicidal to play.  

 

I had to Free XP my way past it because my virtual sailors had unionized and were threatening to go on strike if I kept playing the darn thing.

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[KP] IronMike11B4O 411
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OP you say you have great games in it? A quick fact check of your stats says that is a lie. As I was typing that last part I was hearing Maury Povich voice. Seriously you are red across the board that can't be any fun.

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[SYN] MrDeaf 2,814
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1 hour ago, Mike_Brase said:

OP you say you have great games in it? A quick fact check of your stats says that is a lie. As I was typing that last part I was hearing Maury Povich voice. Seriously you are red across the board that can't be any fun.

Nah, you can have fun while being bad.
You just need to have like 20 beers, at which point anything is fun and funny.

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[V_KNG] Pete_Darling 49
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This is why low tier is not fun. My Caledon has a better than average Survival % but that is still only 27%. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the best player (And I just realized that I haven't even spec'd my 6 point captain) but it's not fun to get deleted every game. With these ships it's not a matter of angling you simply have to avoid damage at all costs. It's like you have to drive it like a DD but it's not a DD. Sure you can have some fun games, I think my high game Danae was a 3 Kill for 63K damage, but you don't get them all that often. I'll have Emerald soon but I can see it being a real struggle at tier 5. 

 

Edited by Pete_Darling

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On 6/28/2017 at 2:22 AM, MrDeaf said:

Nah, you can have fun while being bad.
You just need to have like 20 beers, at which point anything is fun and funny.

This is very true 

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[ARGSY] Ensign_Cthulhu 626
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I had not yet considered playing the Emerald, or even this game, while drunk before.

 

Chances are that if I do that after failing so hard while sober, I will take her into a Random battle full of T7 Unicum players in Scharnhorsts and wipe the floor with them. (Okay, I'm joking, but I think you know what I mean.)

 

(It goes without saying that if such a thing did happen, it would also be the occasion on which the game-record function failed, or an update dropped the minute the game ended, denying me all proof :p )

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On 3/4/2017 at 8:48 PM, Octavius_Cutler said:

Why does everyone hate this ship? It's by far one of my favourite ships in-game. I dunno, I have a lot of good games in it.

I couldn't agree more! Thank you!

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[--1--] Iron_Salvo921 7
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Emerald was one of the longest grinds for me. It has it's cits on the outside of the paper thin armour it doesn't have. Also, it has weak guns, short-range torpedoes, bad AA, bad secondary armament. However it's worth it as Leander is so amazing.

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[E-E] HazeGrayUnderway 3,461
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There are 2 good things about Emerald.

 

1.  For all your enemies, Emerald is quick and easy XPs and Credits.  1-2 good salvos and she's done.  You can then move on to the rest of the game and reap the massive rewards of 1-2 shotting a ship.  Even DDs can citadel the ever-living-sh*t out of Emerald with small caliber gunfire.

 

2.  The last good thing about Emerald is the feeling when you unlock and buy Leander to leave Emerald far behind.

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[TRI4D] Texas_Vet 32
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I greatly disliked the Emerald.  But really love the Tier 6 Leander.  Fantastic!  Huge difference is capabilities!  Just got the Fiji, and another wow!  WOW!  It is worth the grind for these two, but painful for all below the Leander.

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[E-E] HazeGrayUnderway 3,461
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I witnessed something so hilarious.

 

We had this Emerald that had hid for almost the entire game, saw we were winning big, then decided to come down to the enemy cap for easy points.  The only enemy ship in the area was an Emile Bertin.

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The enemy Cruiser was under attack from Emerald, Fujin, New Mexico.  She wasn't going to last long.  But apparently Emerald thinks it's bad a$$ enough to pile on and maybe get the kill.  Except...

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2 salvos and D.U.N.

Take your a$$ back to port.

Emerald is such a garbage a$$ ship.

Suck a$$ guns.

Suck a$$ torps.

Suck a$$ armor.

Suck a$$ concealment.

Suck a$$ ship.

Edited by HazeGrayUnderway

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I've never played the Emrald, but facing them is a joke. I was in a Mutsuki trying to cap, and here comes an almost undamaged Emrald. Spotted, torps were on the reload, so thinking I'm going to die anyway might as well fire a few rounds from my little pop gun for laughs. To my absolute surprise I started scoring cits with HE through his BOW! I got my aft gun into play and after a brief struggle sunk it with just my guns! I outgunned an Emrald....in a Mutsuki! Whaaaat! 

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On 4/22/2018 at 8:05 PM, HazeGrayUnderway said:

Emerald is such a garbage a$$ ship.

Suck a$$ guns.

Suck a$$ torps.

Suck a$$ armor.

Suck a$$ concealment.

Suck a$$ ship.

The guns actually aren't that bad. The issue is the layout and how many you can bring to bear, safely, on a given target. When you can give a full salvo you can put a big hurt on any Cruiser you face, do a lot of harm to DD's, and pick up decent salvos on BB super structure. If it had a traditional multi gun p/ turret setup like Leander and up it would be a lot better. 

Sucka$$ torps? Ummm? I usually agree with you on most things but can't on this. It's torps are actually a strength and pretty good. A tad slow at just 59 knots but with dual 4 torp launchers p/ side Emerald can put a hurt on anything it will face with torps. 6km range is workable.

I have to disagree about sucka$$ armor too. Why? Because it doesn't have any! Emerald just has a big ship wide citadel protected with tissue paper. :Smile_teethhappy:

Concealment isn't horrendous. 10.1km w/ CE. That isn't DD stealth levels or anything but it has the best concealment of any T5 Cruiser in the game (that I know of/can get stats for) and it is by a good measure vs most of them (stats w/ CE)...

  1. Emerald - 10.1
  2. Furutaka - 10.7
  3. Konigsberg - 10.9
  4. Emile Bertin - 11.1
  5. Marblehead/Murmansk - 11.5
  6. Omaha/Marblehead L - 11.9
  7. Krasny Krym - 12.0
  8. Kirov - 12.5

I actually kind of like Emerald. I don't think it is a garbage ship. Not a power house but it can be good and it can be fun if played properly. Good speed, concealment, torps, smoke, heal, etc... Like all BRN CL's though (and even beasts like Fiji and Minotaur) you have to be careful exposing yourself to enemy fire. It is a fragile ship for sure.

It was a difficult grind when I went through it originally but I was new(er) to the game and didn't know what I do now. I have since reached Minotaur and now know how to play BRN CL's to the max advantage. I never even hated it way back then. I recently repurchased it and have been having a blast playing it once more. I am a much better player now so I do a lot better in it. Just one of those ships most hate that I do well in a guess.

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Edited by AdmiralThunder

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[E-E] HazeGrayUnderway 3,461
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I actually get excited when I see Emeralds.  Because it's time to pad my stats by deleting them and their weapons are of zero threat to me.

 

Battleship.

Another Cruiser.

Even a DD.

It doesn't matter what I use.

 

Emerald stands no chance and is easy to citadel and kill, even with DD Guns.  When a Sims can straight up roll up to an Emerald and gun her down with 127mm, bagging citadels and damage, killing her quick, I have absolutely zero respect for the ship.

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