Carriers are way too overpowered when top tier

[Kaa1el]

The best way to balance the cv without touching any of the stats is make them always bottom tier. They are way too overpowered when top tier or even middle tier. There is nothing you can do in a BB even with best in class AA (IOWA or FDG) with commander skill bonus if the red CV just choose to focus you. Dive bomber and torpedo bomber extra plane skill should be completely removed. The manual drop must be reworked as well.

[Destroyer_Zeka]

We need downvotes back

[Grizley]

Always bottom tier would be a little brutal.

 

You're playing a strike Lexington... a wild Des Moines has appeared!  It's super effective!

 

 

For context, the Lexington started with 72 aircraft.  I shot down 50 of them.  

[Destroyer_Zeka]

Always bottom tier would be a little brutal.

 

You're playing a strike Lexington... a wild Des Moines has appeared!  It's super effective!

 

 

For context, the Lexington started with 72 aircraft.  I shot down 50 of them.  

 

And no Clear Sky lol

[Destroyer_Zeka]

If he thinks CVs are OP, I wonder A.) What he's been smoking and B.) I wonder what he thinks of DDs lol 

[1SneakyDevil]

Look who escaped from the mental ward again!!

[Grevester]

The role of a cv changes depending on its tier situation, like any other ship. When there is a top tier cv, you need to respect that power.

[Macabe]

Uh. First nerf Iowa AAA.

 

[Grizley]

 

And no Clear Sky lol

 

I blame the double float plane skill.

 

When there are 6 enemy BB that's what.. 12 x 4 extra float planes that you have to be inside 7.2km of a BB to shoot down?  That's a trick I'm not in a hurry to try.

[Taichunger]

Kaa1el, long time. Don't forget your posts about BBs being OP, CAs being OP, and DDs having too many torps. 

[Tembin]

The role of a cv changes depending on its tier situation, like any other ship. When there is a top tier cv, you need to respect that power.

 

This is extremely true.  As the Shokaku with the second highest solo queue win rate in NA, and one of the highest overall, you have to know what to do when low tier or top tier.  If low tier, you really can't hit the bigger targets as they are often protected, so you have to help friendly DDs by spotting the enemy DDs and their torps.  You also have to learn to strike DDs in case BBs (like the Iowa above) run full AA.

[Aduial]

The best way to balance the cv without touching any of the stats is make them always bottom tier. They are way too overpowered when top tier or even middle tier. There is nothing you can do in a BB even with best in class AA (IOWA or FDG) with commander skill bonus if the red CV just choose to focus you. Dive bomber and torpedo bomber extra plane skill should be completely removed. The manual drop must be reworked as well.

 

Carriers are way too underpowered when bottom tier. If you have played CVs, you would know that. A more reasonable solution would be to make them always mid-tier, but that creates a situation where you cannot have T10 CVs. So it's a bit more complicated than you think it is.

My semi-AA specced Gneisenau can easily shut down a Saipan or a Hiryu, so another "no" for that.

 

Also, there is no skill that gives you an extra torpedo bomber per squadron. It's only for dive bombers and fighters. 

[Robinhood_]

If you are running around solo off CV can be an issue but if you play smart and stay around other friendly ship ..Should not be an issue.

[TenguBlade]

Man all the trolls are crawling back out from under the bridge now.

[Grizley]

If you are running around solo off CV can be an issue but if you play smart and stay around other friendly ship ..Should not be an issue.

 

This is not true.

 

What you mean is, a CV can delete you unless there is a higher tiered AA speced ship between you and it's aircraft.   Which is a problem if the CV is top tier.  Then you have the situation where everyone camps at the back of the map clustered around those AA ships.

[cometguy]

A skilled CV can do that, but a skilled player in anything can inflict a lot of pain. CV average kill rates are way to low for just any CV captain to be deleting ships. And changing match making rules for an entire class based on the capabilities of the very best players of that class would be ridiculous.

[Kirishima_Desu]

Kaa1el, long time. Don't forget your posts about BBs being OP, CAs being OP, and DDs having too many torps. 

 

I'm actually fairly certain he's only ever complained about BBs being under powered rather than OP. I could be wrong though.

[Grizley]

A skilled CV can do that, but a skilled player in anything can inflict a lot of pain. CV average kill rates are way to low for just any CV captain to be deleting ships. And changing match making rules for an entire class based on the capabilities of the very best players of that class would be ridiculous.

 

Don't confuse me with the OP, I don't think always being bottom tier is a good plan.

 

But, don't try to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining either.  Just take a look at the average ships killed per game.  IJN CVs all average very high.  

[cometguy]

 

Don't confuse me with the OP, I don't think always being bottom tier is a good plan.

 

But, don't try to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining either.  Just take a look at the average ships killed per game.  IJN CVs all average very high.  

A CV having higher average kill rates and being able to delete ships virtually at will are not anywhere close to the same thing.

[Francois424]

The salt is going to be real IF wg actually fixes carriers and ppl start playing them again with regularity.

[TheKrimzonDemon]

Let me guess, your latest ban ended? Good news! With the way you post, you'll be on vacation again tomorrow!

[Legendary_Typo]

There are so many trolls that sometimes I confuse the good guys with the bad guys...

[tcbaker777]

OP, I laugh at thee, for this has to be one of the dumbest threads I've seen, and I've seen dumb threads, cvs are hardly played nowadays, just wait till the next game, guaranteed no carrier

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Uh. First nerf Iowa AAA.

 

 

Always bottom tier would be a little brutal.

 

You're playing a strike Lexington... a wild Des Moines has appeared!  It's super effective!

 

 

For context, the Lexington started with 72 aircraft.  I shot down 50 of them.  

 

I can't believe the CV kept feeding you planes like that.  Hell, I'm embarrassed when 1 ship shoots down 30 of my planes!

[Grizley]

We only had one DD.  CVs have it programmed into their little brains that if there is one DD then ALL AIRCRAFT MUST ATTACK IN MERCILESS WAVE AFTER WAVE UNTIL IT IS DESTROYED!

 

The DD hung around about 4km on the other side of an island from me and when he saw aircraft coming he zipped back.  Brief hilarity ensued.  

 

I think he took some damage from random shots while he was spotted, but none of the aircraft made a successful attack on him.