Moderation in all things...

[CrazyHorse_Denver]

... some might advocate it as a way of life. This being a gaming forum and not a philosophical one what does it have to do with the game you may ask.

 

It was the thought that popped into my head during the last game. A game so filled with smoke you might have thought that WoWS was experimenting with a fog bank weather effect...not a bad idea just not germane to the topic.

Arms race time...lets start equipping more ships with radar. Slippery slope here we come.

I've always thought that there were too many torpedoes in the water but it is understandable as ships in all 4 classes carry them. More ships equipped with smoke and of course people are going to use it.

 

Don't get me wrong as I use all these things all the time. You have to use them to be competitive at all in the game. A thought keeps nagging at me though...would the game be less enjoyable without as many geegaws and gimmicks. Would moderation in all things work for the game also?

Just an old stoners thoughts on a cloudy morning.

[StrykerNC]

Other side of the coin....  Would the game be boring and repetitive, without a bunch of features on different ships to play with?

[CrazyHorse_Denver]

Other side of the coin....  Would the game be boring and repetitive, without a bunch of features on different ships to play with?

 

  A very valid point. I'm not advocating getting rid of any of the geegaws and gimmicks but of thinking about finding a way to balance the game so that none of these toys become omnipresent/omnipotent.

[CapnCappy]

Just want to shoot stuff without worrying about (too many) torpedoes and smoke and radar?

 

T2-3 is usually a fun place. You should check it out sometimes.

[ArIskandir]

The system always find ways to restore balance, it is evolution what brought us here. A new predator always trigger new defensive mechanisms and tactics, old competitors get extinct if they can't adapt/mutate (pls buff), that's the way of life and "work in progress" games. The old motto "Adapt and overcome" is a must to survive this environment.

[CrazyHorse_Denver]

The system always find ways to restore balance, it is evolution what brought us here. A new predator always trigger new defensive mechanisms and tactics, old competitors get extinct if they can't adapt/mutate (pls buff), that's the way of life and "work in progress" games. The old motto "Adapt and overcome" is a must to survive this environment.

 

Very true...another game and another thought occurred to me. As the number of islands on the maps show, moderation is not in the WoWS genetic makeup. Simple open water is apparently too boring. A few islands here or there to hide behind if need be is fine but why have so many that the movement on maps is inhibited and constricted. Instead of one or the other and with the Ocean map being effectively retired we don't even have the other any more...why can't we have a cross breeding of the two.

[Fishrokk]

OP:  The proper end of your thread title is: "...especially moderation."

[ArIskandir]

 

Very true...another game and another thought occurred to me. As the number of islands on the maps show, moderation is not in the WoWS genetic makeup. Simple open water is apparently too boring. A few islands here or there to hide behind if need be is fine but why have so many that the movement on maps is inhibited and constricted. Instead of one or the other and with the Ocean map being effectively retired we don't even have the other any more...why can't we have a cross breeding of the two.

 

Reversed Global Warming, because after all science research is just an opinion, and Ocean Level must be decreasing.

 

Now seriously, is just another way to "stir things up", a new environment completly alters the flow of battle, some species are favoured, some not so much, again "adapt and overcome", remember to spend some money while doing it, please.

[klymar8]

From a Robert A. Heinlein book (Time enough for love) ; " Everything in excess ! Moderation is for monks !" (iirc)    

 

[Stauffenberg44]

Interesting post. I am one of those romantics who feels a ship has a soul, even in a pixelated ghost equivalent on our screens. As a collector I crave all indications of uniqueness and for example was gratified, in looking over the Dunkerque when I bought her, that I could see the motto of the French Navy--Honneur, patrie, valeur on a plaque on the B-turret barbette. This has no effect on play of course but adds to the unique feel of a ship, which in this case is the very distinctive two quadruple 330 mm turrets forward, which does have a huge influence on play-style.

 

In RL no admiral would readily send his fleet into the congested waters of an archipelago, but this is what we've got. The smoke, the weather, the torps, radar-equipped ships compound an already complex situation which I for one enjoy. One's man's "geegaws and gimmicks" is another man's pleasure in having unique ships moshing it up in complex situations. How could one want to vanilla-ize it all? Even those 67% WR grognards can, and will, get overwhelmed with all the chaotic variables unleashed at times and this is as it should be. Moderate things into some sort of predictable banality and it becomes a turkey shoot that quickly loses its charm. But hey, as another noted, T 1 & 2 always beckons for those in search of a simpler battle.

 

Someone else on here has a great signature which uses the famous painting by J.M.W. Turner, The FIghting Termeraire, which depicts the old warhorse finally being towed in for scrap. I'll let that image speak for itself re individual ships and their unique soul and character:

 

[CrazyHorse_Denver]

 

Reversed Global Warming, because after all science research is just an opinion, and Ocean Level must be decreasing.

 

Now seriously, is just another way to "stir things up", a new environment completly alters the flow of battle, some species are favoured, some not so much, again "adapt and overcome", remember to spend some money while doing it, please.

 

Oh believe me...I've spent plenty of money adapting and overcoming this game.

[CrazyHorse_Denver]

Just want to shoot stuff without worrying about (too many) torpedoes and smoke and radar?

 

 

T2-3 is usually a fun place. You should check it out sometimes.

 

That's why I keep 5 T1-3 ships in my fleet. While the playstyle may be different even simple by some standards I've never found the game to be boring even at those tiers.

[Stauffenberg44]

From a Robert A. Heinlein book (Time enough for love) ; " Everything in excess ! Moderation is for monks !" (iirc)    

 

Yes! +1 for you my friend. ;)

[CrazyHorse_Denver]

From a Robert A. Heinlein book (Time enough for love) ; " Everything in excess ! Moderation is for monks !" (iirc)    

 

Another plus one from me. It is a great book full of usable quotes. As a reader though all you have to do is ignore Heinlein's right wing politics that come through so clearly in his writings.

It really rubbed him the wrong way when the counter culture adopted his Stranger in a Strange Land for their own. Ah yes Karma...it'll always come to get ya.

[ArIskandir]

 

Another plus one from me. It is a great book full of usable quotes. As a reader though all you have to do is ignore Heinlein's right wing politics that come through so clearly in his writings.

It really rubbed him the wrong way when the counter culture adopted his Stranger in a Strange Land for their own. Ah yes Karma...it'll always come to get ya.

Lol, another succesful example of "adapt and overcome" 

[Megrim3]

Interesting post. I am one of those romantics who feels a ship has a soul, even in a pixelated ghost equivalent on our screens. As a collector I crave all indications of uniqueness and for example was gratified, in looking over the Dunkerque when I bought her, that I could see the motto of the French Navy--Honneur, patrie, valeur on a plaque on the B-turret barbette. This has no effect on play of course but adds to the unique feel of a ship, which in this case is the very distinctive two quadruple 330 mm turrets forward, which does have a huge influence on play-style.

 

In RL no admiral would readily send his fleet into the congested waters of an archipelago, but this is what we've got. The smoke, the weather, the torps, radar-equipped ships compound an already complex situation which I for one enjoy. One's man's "geegaws and gimmicks" is another man's pleasure in having unique ships moshing it up in complex situations. How could one want to vanilla-ize it all? Even those 67% WR grognards can, and will, get overwhelmed with all the chaotic variables unleashed at times and this is as it should be. Moderate things into some sort of predictable banality and it becomes a turkey shoot that quickly loses its charm. But hey, as another noted, T 1 & 2 always beckons for those in search of a simpler battle.

 

Someone else on here has a great signature which uses the famous painting by J.M.W. Turner, The FIghting Termeraire, which depicts the old warhorse finally being towed in for scrap. I'll let that image speak for itself re individual ships and their unique soul and character:

 

 

a very interesting post, however; I would say that inanimate carbon rods do not have souls, but rather the being that shapes that object into a work of art does have a soul allowing you to peer into his/her (artists`) souls.