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The clear sky achievement requires (and I'm recalling this from memory) %50 of aircraft destroyed and a minimum of 30 aircraft destroyed. I have shot down in countless battles 45-50 aircraft and still haven't received the achievement. typically the enemy aircraft carrier has 35-50 planes, so why am I not cracking the seal on the achievement? even if I factor in all the spotter planes and catapult launched fighters with a swag the total number of potential aircraft on the enemies team might be 75-80 aircraft. Unless I'm way off on how many aircraft could be on an enemies team, it appears to be broken to me, because 45-50 aircraft meets the %50 requirement and the minimum requirement.

 

The signal for clear skies is pretty useful and one of the first signals I deplete, so if someone could tell me what I'm missing here I'd be grateful.

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I'm not sure about this; all I know is that after the change from the old system getting Clear Sky became a lot harder.

 

The only clue seems to be that catapult aircraft (fighters/spotters) seems to be what is messing things up 

 

If it's a straight-up 50% > 30 min then it seems a lot of players who have kvetched should have received Clear Sky; if the calculation also factors in that 50% of catapult aircraft must also be shot down as a part of the 50% > 30 min total, then the award is effectively impossible, unless cat aircraft users are constantly launching their aircraft and getting them shot down.

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Got clear sky yesterday by the first time in a ship that isn't a CV with my Missouri, because enemy Lexington thought attaking the ship with most powerfull AA was a good idea. 41 (corection: 46) planes were shut down there. But i got it in the last second.

When more planes the "non-CV" ships lauch harder it's to get the achivement, especially now with that new commander skill. In the Missouri game i saw only a few enemy spotter planes in that match, problably the players didn't use the consumable frequently that time.

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Those surface ships have a lot of aircraft sometimes, and if they go down, their aircraft that never get launched still counts to total aircraft that need to be shot down. Yes, it's pretty pointless to include these planes into the calculation.

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Think about this , high tier battleships have 8 planes, add that with 5-6 bbs per side + cruisers with 4-5 planes and a cv with 70-80.

I saw cvs with 101 kills and no clear sky and cvs with 36 kills and clear sky, it's not bugged but it counts tiering and what planes are on the map even if they are in the air or not

 

The req for clear sky is just tarded , not bugged.

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The requirement is minimum of 30 aircraft, and over 50% of total on the enemy team including float fighters and spotters.

So if it's a tier 10 game with a carrier and multiple battleships (especially Yamato with a max 9 plane hangar) it can add up.

E.g.: Midway with 106 planes, if there are 3 Yamatos with SI and Prem planes, that's another 27.  Cruisers and other battleships can have around 4-5 each.

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Broken? No. Stupid? Yes.

 

Actually I would say it is very broken as it is not a heroic achievement and those are many times easier to get. They need to either make it a heroic (super heroic) achievement with a commensurate reward because of how hard it is to get or just take the catapult planes out of the calculation.

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The clear sky achievement requires (and I'm recalling this from memory) %50 of aircraft destroyed and a minimum of 30 aircraft destroyed. I have shot down in countless battles 45-50 aircraft and still haven't received the achievement. typically the enemy aircraft carrier has 35-50 planes, so why am I not cracking the seal on the achievement? even if I factor in all the spotter planes and catapult launched fighters with a swag the total number of potential aircraft on the enemies team might be 75-80 aircraft. Unless I'm way off on how many aircraft could be on an enemies team, it appears to be broken to me, because 45-50 aircraft meets the %50 requirement and the minimum requirement.

 

The signal for clear skies is pretty useful and one of the first signals I deplete, so if someone could tell me what I'm missing here I'd be grateful.

 

It's not broken, I get Clear Sky almost every day and it's a fairly easy achievement to farm. It's much easier to get it if you are playing in a match w/ 4 CVs. Otherwise, Saipan is a good ship to farm Clear Sky when you are playing alone since it has a fairly small hangar (48) while Ranger/Huryu have large hangers (~72). As a result you have to shoot down fewer aircraft to get the achievement.

 

People that have trouble farming Clear Sky don't know how to play carriers, it's as simple as that.

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It's not broken, I get Clear Sky almost every day and it's a fairly easy achievement to farm. It's much easier to get it if you are playing in a match w/ 4 CVs. Otherwise, Saipan is a good ship to farm Clear Sky when you are playing alone since it has a fairly small hangar (48) while Ranger/Huryu have large hangers (~72). As a result you have to shoot down fewer aircraft to get the achievement.

 

People that have trouble farming Clear Sky don't know how to play carriers, it's as simple as that.

 

Nine in 5200+ matches is not every day and you have 38 Kraken's. It is an Honorable achievement that is much harder to get than a Heroic achievement. What makes it so hard is the catapult planes count too even if they are never launched. Depending on the tier it is possible to completely wipe out a CV's plane complement and not get the achievement because the damned catapult planes are still in their hangers.

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It's not broken, I get Clear Sky almost every day and it's a fairly easy achievement to farm. It's much easier to get it if you are playing in a match w/ 4 CVs. Otherwise, Saipan is a good ship to farm Clear Sky when you are playing alone since it has a fairly small hangar (48) while Ranger/Huryu have large hangers (~72). As a result you have to shoot down fewer aircraft to get the achievement.

 

People that have trouble farming Clear Sky don't know how to play carriers, it's as simple as that.

 

clear sky is indeed easy to farm. People who struggle to get it 1. Dont play cv at all 2. dont play cv properly. 

 

Obviously excluding hightier or double cv matches which can be more tough to get clear sky, but I ve seen youtube videos/ screenshots with people having more than 90 planes shot down.

 

 

 

 

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clear sky is indeed easy to farm. People who struggle to get it 1. Dont play cv at all 2. dont play cv properly. 

 

Obviously excluding hightier or double cv matches which can be more tough to get clear sky, but I ve seen youtube videos/ screenshots with people having more than 90 planes shot down.

 

 

 

 

 

Shooting down a huge number of planes doesn't guarantee a clear skies achievement and even those with that have gotten it will have many more of the supposedly much harder to get Heroic Achievements. That is what is broken, it isn't supposed to be rare and it is.

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Shooting down a huge number of planes doesn't guarantee a clear skies achievement and even those with that have gotten it will have many more of the supposedly much harder to get Heroic Achievements. That is what is broken, it isn't supposed to be rare and it is.

 

A lot of non heroic achievments are more tough to get, I dont see people getting Double Strikes and Liquidator as often as confederate. I dont see why clear sky would be suddenly an exception.
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clear sky is indeed easy to farm. People who struggle to get it 1. Dont play cv at all 2. dont play cv properly. 

 

Obviously excluding hightier or double cv matches which can be more tough to get clear sky, but I ve seen youtube videos/ screenshots with people having more than 90 planes shot down.

 

So, you're saying when I shoot down 45 planes from a single Hiryu, but still don't get it, that's cool and all? 

 

Yeah, no. Pretty ridiculous. It should just be the baseline of 30 plane kills. Or, if that makes it too easy, bump it up to 40. But having to shoot down 50% of all aircraft on the enemy team is just dumb.

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So, you're saying when I shoot down 45 planes from a single Hiryu, but still don't get it, that's cool and all? 

 

Yeah, no. Pretty ridiculous. It should just be the baseline of 30 plane kills. Or, if that makes it too easy, bump it up to 40. But having to shoot down 50% of all aircraft on the enemy team is just dumb.

 

45 is just not good enough, unless it was a Saipan. Its a pretty simple achievment to get with a cv as long as the game doesent end fast and cv isnt afk/dead. For liquidator I need 40 % of total damage done in flooding + kill, not fullfilling either of those means I wont get a liquidator. And such kill is often taken away from me just before the target would surcome to the flooding.

 

What I would want is an indicator on how many planes I need to shoot down to get it. at the topbar somewhere so I could make an effort to go for clear sky or refrain from doing so because its pointless due to beeing a high number.

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45 is just not good enough, unless it was a Saipan. Its a pretty simple achievment to get with a cv as long as the game doesent end fast and cv isnt afk/dead. For liquidator I need 40 % of total damage done in flooding + kill, not fullfilling either of those means I wont get a liquidator. And such kill is often taken away from me just before the target would surcome to the flooding.

 

What I would want is an indicator on how many planes I need to shoot down to get it. at the topbar somewhere so I could make an effort to go for clear sky or refrain from doing so because its pointless due to beeing a high number.

 

Exactly my point. I shot down 45 planes, which is 63% of the Hiryu's hangar capacity. But still no clear sky. Why? Because the achievement is stupid. Catapult fighters that never get launched should not count towards the earning of this achievement. Yes, Liquidator is hard to get too, maybe the requirements for that should be changed too? Just because one thing is hard because it's stupid doesn't mean another thing has to be hard for the same reason.
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Exactly my point. I shot down 45 planes, which is 63% of the Hiryu's hangar capacity. But still no clear sky. Why? Because the achievement is stupid. Catapult fighters that never get launched should not count towards the earning of this achievement. Yes, Liquidator is hard to get too, maybe the requirements for that should be changed too? Just because one thing is hard because it's stupid doesn't mean another thing has to be hard for the same reason.

 

in my POV wows is already too easy, why change achievments to make them even more easy? Wouldnt that contradict the whole "achievment" (- aka something special) thing
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in my POV wows is already too easy, why change achievments to make them even more easy? Wouldnt that contradict the whole "achievment" (- aka something special) thing

 

If the achievement is impossible to earn unless you're farming it in an AS Bogue, it's not even worth having in the game, lol. I shot down well over 50% of the enemy carrier's aircraft compliment, yet still did not get the achievement. I have at least ten games with over 50 plane kills, and even more in the 40s, and yet, in my 3600 games, have only earned the achievement once, and that was in ranked. 

 

The achievement is stupid and basically unachievable unless you're in a very small game where there are fewer catapult fighters to ruin it.

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A lot of non heroic achievments are more tough to get, I dont see people getting Double Strikes and Liquidator as often as confederate. I dont see why clear sky would be suddenly an exception.

 

Double Strike and Liquidator are both highly luck related but not in a way that the player can affect, player performance has very little to do with getting them. You claim it is easy but only have one. If it was so easy shouldn't you have several more by now on this account, you are doing much too well for a new player.

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Double Strike and Liquidator are both highly luck related but not in a way that the player can affect, player performance has very little to do with getting them. You claim it is easy but only have one. If it was so easy shouldn't you have several more by now on this account, you are doing much too well for a new player.

I have two by now, the reason why I dont ve many clear sky is my choice in playstyle right now. Also the AA flags holds little value for me right now so its not a priority to farm those flags. Which will change by the time I ll unlock more advanced CV.

 

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Clear sky... I have two and got both in my Hiryu. Don't know what you people are complaining about. :read_fish:

 

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Clear sky... I have two and got both in my Hiryu. Don't know what you people are complaining about. :read_fish:

 

 

Says the obvious reroll.

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K.

 

Ok, this is weird, que the Twilight Zone theme. Your profile had been showing less than 100 matches and an impossible for that few matches 80% W/R and a 16 to 1 K/D. :unsure:

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Ok, this is weird, que the Twilight Zone theme. Your profile had been showing less than 100 matches and an impossible for that few matches 80% W/R and a 16 to 1 K/D. :unsure:

 

That is weird, but it's also my co op stats. In pvp, I have over 1200 matches. 

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