725 [NEUTR] NeutralState Members 2,207 posts 11,692 battles Report post #1 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) The handling, the guns, the tight torps, the small size... So god damn good. Encounters a Fubuki at Point A, beat it into submission before its smoke screen finishes emitting. Quickly re locate to cap B. Then proceed to burn down a Nagao shooting over an island... beautiful, just beautiful. Stock configuration, only with guns, 33000 dmg, 1 kill, no brain required only need to hold down M1. Should I abandon my IJN DD waifus and go with glorious USN master race? Moderated by Volier_Zcit Edited March 2, 2017 by Volier_Zcit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #2 Posted March 2, 2017 And what was Nicholas? Fried liver? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
725 [NEUTR] NeutralState Members 2,207 posts 11,692 battles Report post #3 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) And what was Nicholas? Fried liver? Farragut. Got it from Spee grind event. Edited March 2, 2017 by NeutralState Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,786 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,750 posts 15,840 battles Report post #4 Posted March 2, 2017 As someone who played the IJN to T10, yes. Though the Shiratsuyu has its moments and the Akizuki can be hilarious once you have AFT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #5 Posted March 2, 2017 Farragut. Got it from Spee grind event. Aha. Just making sure. Should try Nicholas. She's fun as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,081 [SALVO] ArIskandir Members 17,316 posts 10,504 battles Report post #6 Posted March 2, 2017 The handling, the guns, the tight torps, the small size... So god damn good. Encounters a Fubuki at Point A, beat it into submission before its smoke screen finishes emitting. Quickly re locate to cap B. Then proceed to burn down a Nagao shooting over an island... beautiful, just beautiful. Stock configuration, only with guns, 33000 dmg, 1 kill, no brain required only need to hold down M1. Should I abandon my IJN DD waifus and go with glorious USN master race? Comrade, folorn your capitalist ways and become a true communist. Stalin's hand will guide your shell at ranges beyond capitalist comprehension to deliver fast and fiery punishment to the enemies of the masses Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,809 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 9,921 posts 18,414 battles Report post #7 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) Comrade, folorn your capitalist ways and become a true communist. Stalin's hand will guide your shell at ranges beyond capitalist comprehension to deliver fast and fiery punishment to the enemies of the masses better yet, we should merge the Russian and American dds together to form the ultimate, maybe even the Japanese for their torps, Russian's gun size, America's RoF, and Japan's torps, it would be virtually unstoppable, a complete beast Edited March 2, 2017 by tcbaker777 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
83 Zim_Xero Members 765 posts 2,849 battles Report post #8 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) If you like DD gunboats, use any line except japanese. (the T8 Akizuki is the only exception... its very good... the one and only) The Russian line is the best for distance gunboating. The American line is almost as good but stealthier for good capping. The German line is a mix of good torp and gun boats. The T9 Z-46 plays like a Minekaze + good guns. IMO its the 'OP'est non-premium DD. Edited March 2, 2017 by Zim_Xero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
725 [NEUTR] NeutralState Members 2,207 posts 11,692 battles Report post #9 Posted March 2, 2017 If you like DD gunboats, use any line except japanese. (the T8 Akizuki is the only exception... its very good... the one and only) The DD line is the best for gunboating. The American line is almost as good but stealthier for good capping. The German line is a mix of good torp and gun boats. The T9 Z-46 plays like a Minekaze + good guns. IMO its the 'OP'est non-premium DD. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,889 [HINON] Phoenix_jz Members 7,797 posts 2,144 battles Report post #10 Posted March 2, 2017 Farragut is a god-tier ship. She's disgustingly fun, I always fall back on her when my ship lines are just becoming a slog. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
227 devastator5000 Members 1,719 posts 4,106 battles Report post #11 Posted March 2, 2017 The USN line also can keep pace with the IJN DDs at T8 and up with stealth torping and if you are crazy DF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
432 Kenjister ∞ Beta Testers 1,821 posts 10,838 battles Report post #12 Posted March 2, 2017 I had a similar reaction when I used my free Farragut after IJN play. I think a large part of it is the new line charm though. Going from one playstyle to another means all the things you couldn't do in the original line stick out more. Once you play a bit more and run into situations where you really wish you had your IJN torps, the shine will wear off a bit. Overall it's hard to say which line is better. Statistically the IJN is worse, but games tend to be really feast of famine. I can imagine there is a wider gap in player skill for IJN. That being said, not all the IJN DDs are bad. Fubuki is solid, and Akatsuki is the Swiss Army knife of DDs. Shiratsuyu is just troll levels of torps, and Akizuki will make other DDs cry. I can't comment on the rest. USN DDs from 8 onward are all considered great however. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
777 [BARF] 1nc0mp3t3nt_1 Beta Testers 5,816 posts 5,484 battles Report post #13 Posted March 2, 2017 The handling, the guns, the tight torps, the small size... So god damn good. Encounters a Fubuki at Point A, beat it into submission before its smoke screen finishes emitting. Quickly re locate to cap B. Then proceed to burn down a Nagao shooting over an island... beautiful, just beautiful. Stock configuration, only with guns, 33000 dmg, 1 kill, no brain required only need to hold down M1. Should I abandon my IJN DD waifus and go with glorious USN master race? The USN are good training wheels for the German DDs, which are set up to how DDs will be rebranded from now on if I understand the long term plan right. Spend time in the Germans before the USN DD nerf comes sometime in the future Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #14 Posted March 2, 2017 You can have both with a Fletcher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
422 ckupf Members 1,947 posts 8,913 battles Report post #15 Posted March 2, 2017 Yeah torp boats are dead, and have been for some time. The only good torp boats in the game above T5 are the hybrids: Shira, Fletcher, Leningrad (which if it were any other nation would not be considered a torp boat). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #16 Posted March 2, 2017 The USN DD line is the best Destroyer line bottom to top in game, so yeah it is worth playing. Not sure why you would have to drop the IjN line though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
725 [NEUTR] NeutralState Members 2,207 posts 11,692 battles Report post #17 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) The USN DD line is the best Destroyer line bottom to top in game, so yeah it is worth playing. Not sure why you would have to drop the IjN line though. too much effort playing IJN DDs. it's not that they can't perform, they definitely can. But just takes so much effort. Was going to start my 100 games in Shimakaze to get it onto the list on warships today. Now totally distracted by how good gunboat is. Edited March 2, 2017 by NeutralState Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [PN] Major_Dent Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 27 posts 23,975 battles Report post #18 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) As someone who played the IJN to T10, yes. Though the Shiratsuyu has its moments and the Akizuki can be hilarious once you have AFT. the shimmy is not at all the good DD it use to be, WG shitted hard on the torps now its only good if a can ambush someone(wich in that casue u need to get a lucky rabbit foot for that) or have someone that have no clue what the hell is doing caue at that tier having slow torps that get spoted from miles away only someone dumb wont be able to dodge them Edited March 2, 2017 by Major_Dent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #19 Posted March 2, 2017 (edited) too much effort playing IJN DDs. it's not that they can't perform, they definitely can. But just takes so much effort. Was going to start my 100 games in Shimakaze to get it onto the list on warships today. Now totally distracted by how good gunboat is. I enjoy both for the differences. Shim can be a pretty good gunboat by herself if set up for it, closes thing I would compare her to is old T8 Fubuki gun heavy set up. Just don't get put off by Mahan, she is the lone un-amazing boat on the line but everything after her is awesome. Edited March 2, 2017 by slak__ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #20 Posted March 2, 2017 If you want to use the glorious USN master race AND seal club, get a smith and put a 19 point captain on that. trust me, you will club seals faster and better than Nikoli Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
49 Kirishima_Desu Members 265 posts 5,991 battles Report post #21 Posted March 2, 2017 Should I abandon my IJN DD waifus and go with glorious USN master race? Simply put, Yes. Benson and Fletcher are Bae. Haven't bought Gearing yet because Fletcher is already the best tier 10 in the game and occasionally gets to club tier 7s. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
725 [NEUTR] NeutralState Members 2,207 posts 11,692 battles Report post #22 Posted March 2, 2017 Fair and balanced gunboats Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,181 [SYN] chewonit [SYN] Beta Testers 2,558 posts 15,272 battles Report post #23 Posted March 2, 2017 IJN DDs are balanced in that most of them are equally ineffective with guns and torps. Once you pick up Fletcher, you will see what a balanced boat should be. And this is from a die hard IJN DD main. I spent most of my time with Fletcher these days. Only play Shimakaze, Yugumo, and a couple of other IJN DDs for the daily bonus to feed my elite commander XP piggy bank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,523 battles Report post #24 Posted March 2, 2017 benson says "hi" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,181 [SYN] chewonit [SYN] Beta Testers 2,558 posts 15,272 battles Report post #25 Posted March 2, 2017 benson says "hi" Yes. Benson is great too. But I can only stay erected for that long each day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites