RIP warships.today?

[anonymised]

Whats up with this site? It used to update almost instantly but hasn't seemed to update for the last 6 days. 

 

Also it shows your number of matches with ships on your profile, but when you look at the particular ship's page, your numbers are usually 20 or so behind. Does anyone know whats up there?

 

I love it as a resource and would like to see it running well again.

[1SneakyDevil]

It has to receive the information from WG, do you know whether that is happening as in the past?

[VTAdmiral]

Every now and then Warships.today has a glitch. It'll resolve in a few days.

[Ace_04]

This is why I use na.wows-numbers.com for my warship info.

 

I find it to be more reliable, and a cleaner and more concise experience.

[sbcptnitro]

This is why I use na.wows-numbers.com for my warship info.

 

I find it to be more reliable, and a cleaner and more concise experience.

 

I'm beginning to convert over to this as well. Warships.Today is about as reliable as a typical BB player in Random.

[SergeantHop]

This is why I use na.wows-numbers.com for my warship info.

 

I find it to be more reliable, and a cleaner and more concise experience.

 

Same. I'd been made aware of this a while ago. Using it more and more.

[Balck_]

This is why I use na.wows-numbers.com for my warship info.

 

I find it to be more reliable, and a cleaner and more concise experience.

 

It also has far more useful information.  Such as individual ship break down.

[anonym_ix2LQemoTpfh]

na.wows-numbers.com

 

Thanks!

[anonym_uO7eEzhrDxsi]

 

I'm beginning to convert over to this as well. Warships.Today is about as reliable as a typical BB player in Random.

 

Hey! No need to slam us BBs. I actually play aggressive and do my best...and die a lot

 

On the serious side i loved the setup and detail of WT, but it is seriously jacked these days and no longer dependable for daily stats. I've been looking at WoWStats.org lately

[sbcptnitro]

 

Hey! No need to slam us BBs. I actually play aggressive and do my best...and die a lot

 

On the serious side i loved the setup and detail of WT, but it is seriously jacked these days and no longer dependable for daily stats. I've been looking at WoWStats.org lately

 

Ha! If it doesn't apply to you, then don't worry about it.

After being left to get ganked in a cap over and over last night, I feel perfectly justified in saying that. (yeah, yeah, I know...git gud and all that)

 

[Ace_04]

 

It also has far more useful information.  Such as individual ship break down.

 

Agreed.  It's not always perfect either, but I think its a better organized site that's far easier to digest and understand.

 

Stats are also categorized much better, at least for me.

[anonym_uO7eEzhrDxsi]

 

Ha! If it doesn't apply to you, then don't worry about it.

After being left to get ganked in a cap over and over last night, I feel perfectly justified in saying that. (yeah, yeah, I know...git gud and all that)

 

 

Far be it from me to criticize anyone's game. All have all I can handle in just trying to improve my own. I look at my own stats as a mark to improve against myself. Some days are good, others, well not so much. 

[DwarfKingHack]

This is why I use na.wows-numbers.com for my warship info.

 

I find it to be more reliable, and a cleaner and more concise experience.

 

Love that they're less gltichy and provide a lot of interesting info not found on warships.today, hate their confusing and often seemingly misleading color-coding of performance numbers.  I have a hard time believing my 48k average damage across all my tier 8s is unicum-level performance, for example. wows-numbers also codes my 75k average damage in Missouri as green, but then changes it to purple when using the same number as my overall tier 9 average damage. (apparently my Iowa is not being counted in my overall tier 9 avg, no idea what's up there) I miss the warships.today functionality that actually shows you the average your personal numbers are being compared to, as I find that much more useful than color coding without explanation.

[Grizley]

This is why I use na.wows-numbers.com for my warship info.

 

I find it to be more reliable, and a cleaner and more concise experience.

 

Looked at the site, it's almost useless.

 

It has no context for numbers.  For instance it color codes 47k average damage a game in a Kuma red.  Using a better put together site like warships.today you would see that 14k or so is average so it's triple the average.  That's a lot more relevant information than "If it was a Zao you'd do more huurr duurrr".

 

The UI is breathtakingly ugly, and the features that "break" on warships today like single day stats aren't even available from what I could see.   They have a long long long way to go before they can think of taking warships.todays place.  The only good part about it was the max kills and damage you've gotten at a tier.

 

I also noticed that the data is not correct.  It says I got the Baltimore 4 days ago, which, considering I had it pre-buff I know for a fact is not correct.  It also says I got the Gremmy recently, which is not possible.  I'm not sure what other errors it's displaying as fact but I'll pass until they drastically improve.

[Lensar]

This is why I use na.wows-numbers.com for my warship info.

 

I find it to be more reliable, and a cleaner and more concise experience.

 

I dunno, it says I'm bad and that hurts my feelings.

 

 

 

[Eisennagel]

 

 

I noticed the vbaddict is down as well, this is another window to Wargaming server statistics, particularly with WoT.  It is possible that the problem is in Wargaming's side and they may have closed their APIs to third party apps (for now...but it maybe permanent).

 

 

[LittleWhiteMouse]

na.wows-numbers.com sure subscribes to an elitist, all-male audience, now don't they?  How to get on my bad list 101.

 

 

[anonym_uO7eEzhrDxsi]

 

I dunno, it says I'm bad and that hurts my feelings.

 

 

 

 

Extremely good point!!!

[Gomez_Adams]

One can only hope they all die and just leave the game behind. Stat sites have simply ruined everything Wargaming ever did.

[Azumazi]

Not going to lie, I don't really like the scale they use for Na-wows-numbers.

 

The main thing that I like about Warships today is that they have a base scale. Meaning the numbers are scaled based off a set bracket or based a fixed weighted scale. This means you know exactly what that number means overall vs the others.

 

Example, on na-wows-numbers I cannot find a scale like what is used on Warships Today. Warships today is more alike Wotlabs in that you see exactly scales to what at what point and this shows you a better overall picture. The other issue I have with wows-numbers is that it seems to be missing a LOT of data as in far less total battles which can skew a totally different set of averages due to loss of total games played across many of those ships. Best example is the Cleveland. As you can see below, Wows Number is missing a LOT of total games played which completely skews the average. This is true for almost all ships on that site.

 

Wows Numbers=

Cleveland

6

Cruiser

U.S.A.

2 235 817

51.99 %

0.82

31 181

1 017

2.6

1.33

 

Warships Today =

Cleveland

6

CA/CL

6,645,479

50.32%

28,117

891

1.0

0.7

2.4

29%

24%

0%

[Gomez_Adams]

Not going to lie, I don't really like the scale they use for Na-wows-numbers.

 

The main thing that I like about Warships today is that they have a base scale.

 

The thing that completely and totally blows Warships Today's credibility out of the water is that they do not use base XP for rating. If you have a premium account, that boost your rating in a HUGE way by using the adjusted XP per game.

 

Warships Today is literally a "Pay to have a good rating" site.

[LittleWhiteMouse]

 

The thing that completely and totally blows Warships Today's credibility out of the water is that they do not use base XP for rating. If you have a premium account, that boost your rating in a HUGE way by using the adjusted XP per game.

 

Warships Today is literally a "Pay to have a good rating" site.

 

Warships.Today's WTR doesn't use experience in their calculation.  The default scoring system they use for ranking ship performance is their own home baked WTR raiting.

 

Component	Weight
Average Damage	50.0%
Average Kills	30.0%
Win Rate	20.0%
Average BaseDefense	0.0%
Average Base Capture	0.0%

 

They do track average experience, but like you said, it's a useless stat based on the inability to differentiate premium accounts and non premium accounts.  WTR rating, like any of the other stat-tracking sites, is an awful formula to rate the performance between ships.  With half of the score being composed of damage, if you wanted a high WTR rating, just farm damage on Battleships and watch your stats turn a deep purple.  You'll have a nice looking signature and you'll be a liability for your team.

 

 

[Azumazi]

Yeah, the XP part is a bit skewed, but part of me wonders how so since they pull from the API and to my knowledge the API goes off base XP.

 

Edit: As the nice miss above pointed out, the xp though isn't calculated.

 

I would like for WTR to finally included cap points as well as defense points when they can in the future though since that would definitely bring out a new average for ships that defend and push caps.

[Shadowrigger1]

I like the look of the  na.wows-numbers.com site, but they just like Warships Today use  "Frags" as a big factor.  Kills in this game are not a major factor unless it's an event requirement.  I can knock off 99.5% of a ships HP and have it taken away by another ship during my reload, or being a smart player, knowing I've maxed out that XP from that ship, moving to the next ship to take them down with my slow reload and leave the 1%hp ship go for another to kill off with faster guns.

[Gomez_Adams]

 

Warships.Today's WTR doesn't use experience in their calculation. 

 

Yes, they do. It's why they have a column dedicated to it. It's  also why you can take a non-premium player that has better overall stats in a ship and put him against another player with premium and the player with premium has a MUCH higher rating: the XP level.