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I have not noticed an appreciable win difference based on radar ships. I drive a Fiji in ranked, and I've been competitive with heal and torps versus Belfast's radar. I've been on a team with no radar ships vs a team with four Belfasts or a mix of 4 Belfasts and Atlantas several times and won as many of them as I've lost. I don't think it's a huge issue. 

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I have not noticed an appreciable win difference based on radar ships. I drive a Fiji in ranked, and I've been competitive with heal and torps versus Belfast's radar. I've been on a team with no radar ships vs a team with four Belfasts or a mix of 4 Belfasts and Atlantas several times and won as many of them as I've lost. I don't think it's a huge issue. 

 

Agree with this. Belfast isn't that dominant. in the right hands it is formidable - but that goes for any ship. I think there is more of a Belfast "hype" in ranked.
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Belfasts only dominate if the teams are DD-heavy, and the other team does not have any cruisers with smoke or radar. But that's to be expected, DDs are their natural prey. Other than that, they are powerful ships, but not Nikolai-OP.

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I haven't found cruisers to be all that relevant, yet.  They seem to skirt the battle in an effort to avoid attention from enemy battleships.  I have been using Scharnhorst pretty regularly and haven't been seriously threatened by any cruisers that weren't BB supported.  Granted, I have only gotten to Rank 15 and things get a bit more competitive below R10.

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Having 1 team with 4 Belfast and 0 on the other team is utter trash. This needs to be addressed.

 

Haven't ever seen this, at least not in ranked. I thought MM balanced the ship makes  - so each team would get one of each rather than all of a type being on a single team. I've seen two Bels on one team and one on the other, but haven't seen even two bells on one team and zero on the other. 

 

How often does it happen? 

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Either I was in the same game as Nikolvan or the very same thing happened to me.  So that said I have seen it.

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My Pensacola eats them, especially in Ranked Battles. I can't have enough of them...

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Haven't ever seen this, at least not in ranked. I thought MM balanced the ship makes  - so each team would get one of each rather than all of a type being on a single team. I've seen two Bels on one team and one on the other, but haven't seen even two bells on one team and zero on the other. 

 

How often does it happen? 

 

MM only balances based on category of ship (BB, CA/CL, DD, CV) not the types of ships. 
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the belfast is definitely a buffed noobie boat...it gets radar so it noobs can see stuff you cant....then if you make the mistake of finding a belfast in your BB and your unable to run .......they just park.....pop smoke......kill you in 4 salvos....that all happens before you are reloaded......all i have to say is that isnt balanced thats just bad luck and i suggest removing the smoke and increase reload to 45 seconds on the belfast.....if you disagree....too bad i didnt ask you what your noob brain thinks.....go start your own post.

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if you disagree....too bad i didnt ask you what your noob brain thinks.....go start your own post.

I've seen people disprove their credibility, but this takes the cake.

 

If you can't be mature enough to take a hit as little as a disagreement, then you're nowhere near mature enough to be in an online forum.

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.....if you disagree....too bad i didnt ask you what your noob brain thinks.....go start your own post.

 

Hello, little guy!  Aren't you cute?!?  How old are you?  Oh, 8 1/2?  How neat!

 

Let me offer you some advice, little fella.  Don't offer your opinion in a thread you didn't start, then refuse to accept a debate and tell others to start their own thread, instead. 

 
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Hello, little guy!  Aren't you cute?!?  How old are you?  Oh, 8 1/2?  How neat!

 

Let me offer you some advice, little fella.  Don't offer your opinion in a thread you didn't start, then refuse to accept a debate and tell others to start their own thread, instead. 

 
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You have to be joking. This is far too complicated for him!

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I don't have a problem with the Belfast. My issue is there seems to be an over abundance of ships with smoke.  The plus/minus tier allowance can put multiple tier ships, dd's and cruisers with smoke in the same battle. And if you're driving a mid tier ship (6-7) without radar and end up in the right match where MM puts the majority on the red team, you might as well take a seat on the sidelines.

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This Post Alone Provided me with the mindset to Purchase the Belfast. Thank You, It Is A Beast. Though Not Unsinkable It can Carry a battle to Victory. The Belfast Strikes Fear in Most  DD Drivers and BB's As well, With a high LVL Captain and a Skilled Player. The Belfast is Almost My Favorite Ship. 

 

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