1,762 Sir_Davos_Seaworth Members 4,272 posts 5,302 battles Report post #1 Posted February 20, 2017 Yeah, we all agree the girl need a little help. It is also well known that the US didn't really know how big and bad the Yamato was till very late in the war. But what if they did? Would they have up gunned the Monty? (assuming they built her in the first place) They did test a 18" gun... http://www.navweaps.com/Weapons/WNUS_18-48_mk1.php Eight gun broadside of these? Whatcha think? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
665 FallenZulu Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 1,837 posts 3,359 battles Report post #2 Posted February 20, 2017 (edited) I don't know, I personally have no issue with the Montana. I really love playing that ship as it's the most versatile BB right now. It's also the stealthiest which only adds to its effectiveness. You just need to know how to play it. If you have a Yamato or Kurfurst nose in at you, shoot HE and stealth up and watch them burn. If they are broadside at you, then shoot AP because the Montana has the hardest hitting broadside right now. Edited February 20, 2017 by FallenZulu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
124 [B3ERS] NightHawkS117 Beta Testers 813 posts 10,292 battles Report post #3 Posted February 20, 2017 the Superheavy 16 that she has is a better weapon stat wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
457 [GOAT] BGrey Beta Testers 1,523 posts 7,150 battles Report post #4 Posted February 20, 2017 the Superheavy 16 that she has is a better weapon stat wise. Ruined by arbitrary overmatch mechanics and armor values. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
646 [KIA-T] OseanTanker Beta Testers 1,857 posts 6,486 battles Report post #5 Posted February 20, 2017 Ruined by arbitrary overmatch mechanics and armor values. still wouldn't matter. 18 inch guns will not overmatch 32mm of armor. Needs to be 18.1 inches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
546 [-K--] BelgaraththeSorcerer Members 2,680 posts 7,993 battles Report post #6 Posted February 20, 2017 Ruined by arbitrary overmatch mechanics and armor values. It is only ruined by the overmatch mechanic in a bow tanking setting, a properly angled Montana makes it so you have to shoot at the angled belt armor which easily ricochets the Yamato and Kurfurst shells. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
422 ckupf Members 1,947 posts 8,913 battles Report post #7 Posted February 20, 2017 The only problems with the Montana are armor related. It has the best broadside power in the game. But it's citadel is too high, and the Yamato can overmatch its bow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
122 [-NOM-] Speedstang Members 473 posts 7,193 battles Report post #8 Posted February 20, 2017 WG said on reddit awhile back they will be giving Montana and Iowa their realistic citadels. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,762 Sir_Davos_Seaworth Members 4,272 posts 5,302 battles Report post #9 Posted February 20, 2017 So...no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 28,311 battles Report post #10 Posted February 20, 2017 So...no? Lowering the citadel would be far more beneficial than increasing Montana's firepower. The ship already delivers the highest DPM of any T10 BB, toning it down to 8 18" guns would be a downgrade. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
359 GUNSTAR_THE_LEGEND Members 1,651 posts 20,692 battles Report post #11 Posted February 20, 2017 If nothing else id like to see either its turning radius slightly improved or acceleration slightly improved. If the ship was a bit more agile and picked up speed slightly better i would take that over bigger guns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,762 Sir_Davos_Seaworth Members 4,272 posts 5,302 battles Report post #12 Posted February 20, 2017 Lowering the citadel would be far more beneficial than increasing Montana's firepower. The ship already delivers the highest DPM of any T10 BB, toning it down to 8 18" guns would be a downgrade. DPM vs Alpha strike? Always a trade off I guess. So, she help taking it, no dishing it out...okay, another one of my bad ideas, LOL. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25 Vagitron Members 119 posts 2,836 battles Report post #13 Posted March 2, 2017 I wouldn't call it a bad idea. It's believe it's probably been presented before since a previous naval game had them as an option, but that doesn't detract from the value of your presentation. I think it would be neat to have an option for a bit of an alternative play style. I don't think it would be difficult to balance between the reduction in barrels and (likely) a reduction in firing rate (each could even have completely different gun arcs). Make the 18s total crap on everything except pen and alpha if need be, no one will complain about having an extra option to change up gameplay. If you're seeing lots of smaller ships, use the 16s, if you're seeing nothing but BBs try the 18s (or keep the 16s, they're Already potent!) T10 is already filled with paper ships and paper guns, the 18" was tested and I don't know of any platform other than the planned Montana that it could have ever been considered for. It's likely it could open up a new method of play for the Monty and at least somewhat modify the current high tier meta. Just balance it as an alternative play style, no need to make the natives restless. i would think that guns are one of the easiest aspects of this game to balance, especially in comparison to the can of worms the potential change to citadel placement in the US BB line will open. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
