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Leander or Fiji or Edinburgh?

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I am naturally a DD player.

 

I am I am doing pretty good with a Minekaze-Farragut-Kiev-Benson-Fletcher line up.

 

I also have the Konigsberg-Budyonny-Myoko-Mogami line up.

 

My question #1 is how Leander/Fiji/Edinburgh measure up against my current line up? Consider the any of the Konigsberg/Budyonny/Myoko/Mogami is more proven and that I have over 50% WR.

 

Question #2 is which ship to buy and keep? I have the Leander at 60k xp's and I can get Fiji or Edinburgh, except I don't want to get an inferior ship. And then I have only an 11 pt captain, which means I have to move him over and sell the Leander.

 

Question #3 is about the matchmaking. Right now Leander is playing against Kongo, New York, Arizona, Aoba and other DD's, which I can comfortably win. What about Fiji and Edinburgh?

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Leander is meh? Really? It is a great ship just as good as Fiji and will not see tier 9. It also has a smaller detection range 8.8 compared to 9.8 with CE.

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It's the Fiji guns that everyone raves about.  I'm still playing in and learning the Leander, so I can't say and moreover, i dont care much.  Both are good.

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Leander guns hitting full broadside on a BB's upper structure... you hardly get 3 to 4k damage.

Fiji... gets 12k+. Its insane. Its like if another BB was tapping your citadel every few seconds.

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Leander is meh? Really? It is a great ship just as good as Fiji and will not see tier 9. It also has a smaller detection range 8.8 compared to 9.8 with CE.

 

I wouldn't say it is as good as the Fiji but it is a huge step up from the Emerald, it is where the RN CL's get good.

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Fiji is a blast and at T7 is top tier most often.

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I personally thought the Leander was better than the Fiji.  Fiji simply didn't impress me much, mainly because I have a Belfast, which I think is a superior ship to all of them.

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I personally thought the Leander was better than the Fiji.  Fiji simply didn't impress me much, mainly because I have a Belfast, which I think is a superior ship to all of them.

 

The Fiji gets better match making and has four more guns than the Leander.

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I personally thought the Leander was better than the Fiji.  Fiji simply didn't impress me much, mainly because I have a Belfast, which I think is a superior ship to all of them.

 

My further concern is also about the match-up of the current Ranked Season. Lots of people are going to impulse buy Belfast and Sims because of their favorable match-ups.

 

If I get a Fiji then by the end of the current Ranked Season there will be lots of Belfast and Sims around the random battles. Not to mention all the Scharnhorst, Bismark, Tirpitz, Amagi, and North Carolina that are already here.

 

I am worried about the matchmatching similar to what is like with the Russian Tier 6 Budyonny vs Tier 8 Chappy. Is the Tier 8 Chappy a better ship? Yes. But the meta favors Tier 6 Budyonny.

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The Fiji gets better match making and has four more guns than the Leander.

 

Never the less, I preferred Leander to Fiji.

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I was not really partial between Leander and Fiji. Both ships are great. All the RN cruisers require very good situational awareness to perform good. Both are beasts in the right hands.

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Leander has eight guns, Fiji and Edinburgh has twelve.

Leander's citadel is smaller, Edinburgh's has the largest.

Leander is the least maneuverable, Fiji the best.

Edinburgh is larger than both.

 

Mind you all my ships are upgraded but all three have the 20% rudder shift mod. Edinburgh feels slightly less maneuverable but otherwise can be compensated for by being quicker on your turns (or getting SGM3). It's true that Edinburgh sees it's fair share of t10 battles and being tunnel visioned will cost you and so will being caught in the open. Situational awareness is one skill that not only your captain should have but you as a player should have and that's with any ship but more so with this line up. I live or die by PT and/or IFA, pay attention I may live, I don't and I will surely die.

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Leander is meh and I think the Fiji is better Tier for Tier than the Tier 8

 

This right here.  I intend to keep all ships of the RN, but the Edinburgh is not as good at tier 8 as the Fiji is at tier 7.

 

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leander is good,  fiji is better,    edinburgh is fiji with tougher matchup.  :D

 

But she does have better concealment.  with the right captain skills and the concealment module, her detection range equals her radar range.  that's a handy tool. . . 

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Fiji is a blast and at T7 is top tier most often.

 

Check out her stats for rudder shift, concealment and turn radius. To my old eyes she plays like a big destroyer. I recently bought the Belfast as a "reward" for achieving my meager goal of Rank 10. The Fiji carries torps, out-turns and out accelerates her (iirc). Sure you get some perks for a premium - the smoke/hydro/radar combo, better concealment and she seriously prints coins - but from a fun factor, Fiji is darn close. If not better in some aspects - as you do get 8km torps. 

 

IF you pursue the line, get the Smoke Countdown mod in Aslain's modpack. It's imperative for the proper use of RN smoke. And fwiw - I used to adore the Konigsberg until - whatever the reason - my win rates plummeted with her. She just sits in port, waiting for me to return. So be aware... the same might happen to you once you dive into the RN line. 

 

Besides - go find some videos on the Tier X RN cruiser... should inspire you ;-) 

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I'm one of those that prefers the Fiji to the Leander.

 

The Leander was a good ship and I enjoyed it, but I greatly prefer the teeth of the Fiji.  

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MY OPINION: all RN CLs have the same playstyle (i am grinding now, i am in edinbrug), is all about positioning like a god, diferent then DDs (my favorite line before 0.5.5) you cant smoke in open ocean and stay here or try to get out, because you still be a cruiser. But they are fun, except when people know how to counter smokes or get good random shoots on you. you will be deleted in smoke, without be spoted some times, but this is normal, dont worry. 

A good position is where you can accelerate fast foward if you be spoted or smoke ends and you still able for shoot in some ships. 

You dont have US arcs, but have US shell velocity. In other words, your shells need a year for hit the target but you cant shoot behind islands like a cleveland or a atlanta.

You are a pure damage pool for everyone, everyone wants your body and they can easily kill you, and they underestimate your DPM. Play with a spoter and is GG. Is like a BB, but without armour, you are a DPM focus line, but alone is only a damage farm.
Fight against DDs is a nightmare, because you cant explode him, and they are manuverable, but with your DPM and good aim you have a chance.

 

Talking about the ships: 

Leander: good ship, good DPM and hit belt armour will do damage, diferent then other cruisers, because is RN AP, and have better torpedo power then Fiji. But is T5-T7 all time, is rara be top tier, but you will be bottom tier some times;
Fiji: GOD ship, she has the firepower (and DPM) then edinburg (same numbers and type of guns) your AP is the better of the tier, even payfast belfast dont have the RN AP, is a normal AP. With premium smoke, Jack of All Trades and flag of reduction time od consumables you have 2 mins of smoke and 54s without smoke, dont die in this 54s and still god, because radar on T7 is rare. Have a lot of T5-T7 battles, and you are top tier all time. Have only 3 torps per side, this is the downside.

Edinburg:same firepower then Fiji, only 3 torps per side, a littl more HP, wich isnt good but she has some upgrades. First: better heal then everyone on T8, T8+ have a really good heal, can recover more life then BBs heal. Second: 10 km torps, aviable for T8+ again, with this torps you can zone how will push into your smoke, and this occurs all time (they see you like a dog see meat) and you can stealth torps like Atago. Her worst point is be a T8, all US and RU cruisers have radar, bismarck have hydro.
Against radar i recomend: if is US radar run, they have a lot of DPM for kill you (her AP is a demon at close range) and 30s is a lot of time spoted, specially if he has support. If is RU radar try to avoid his shoots without leave smoke or tank in smoke, they have good DPM but radar duration is low and is hard to get out of your range when you are stopped and he is at 30 knots.

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Leander is good for her tier, but you'll be uptiered so often it makes no difference.

 

Fiji gets a 50% gun firepower increase over Leander for almost no penalty in detection or handling, and is top-tier more often.

 

Edinburgh is Fiji with better AA and access to CSM1, TASM1, and SGM3.

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