17 [HAIFU] MakiLover69 Members 123 posts 7,823 battles Report post #1 Posted February 19, 2017 i love trying to grind CV and learning to play cv, in COOP and the npc has t4 planes while i have t3. so here i am trying to learn how to cv in coop with the npc parking higher tier planes over my carrier killing my planes as i try to take off..... really? what the hell? so i cant go into random because i will 100% not be up to par with the people who know what they are doing in a cv, i cant even practice in coop now, because the pc will start with higher tier planes; how am i supposed to grind out the exp or know how to use this damn thing? how are we playing against FULLY UPGRADED versions of our un-upgraded ships? it just seems stupid because if i wanted that i'd go to random for that. maybe this is stupid but it doesnt seem productive to coop play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,202 [HC] SgtBeltfed [HC] Beta Testers 3,973 posts 13,744 battles Report post #2 Posted February 19, 2017 There's a few things you can do, Free XP yourself some better fighters or Division with a Yubari, and either fight over it, or have it escort you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [HAIFU] MakiLover69 Members 123 posts 7,823 battles Report post #3 Posted February 19, 2017 ummm can someone explain why Jap Hosho CV gets a flight control option to change loadout and starts with t4 planes that can go t5? while Langley gets t3 fighters that you have to upgrade to t4? who the [edited]comes up with these design choices? like more and more it seems like no one at WG even tries for balancing this game, with the exception of Myogi i dont often find a tech tree or tier where Japan isnt top dog (or close to) or markedly weaker/less capable than its counterparts. can i get an explanation as to why this is? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #4 Posted February 19, 2017 Langley has 50% more planes in the air... just saying Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [HAIFU] MakiLover69 Members 123 posts 7,823 battles Report post #5 Posted February 19, 2017 means much when 1 t5 fighter group kills my fighters in 1 go has full planes then eats my torp planes and DB planes... 50% more planes just means i feed his score at 2 tier plane diff... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #6 Posted February 19, 2017 Or you can not rely on air supremacy and use your insane striking power to kill some ships. Choice is yours. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
445 [ZR] DeadManxDan Members 984 posts 12,323 battles Report post #7 Posted February 19, 2017 1. American CV's are at a disadvantage to IJN CV's 2. Learn to use your Alt key and strafe + manual drop.. 3. Wait for incoming carrier changes. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [HAIFU] MakiLover69 Members 123 posts 7,823 battles Report post #8 Posted February 22, 2017 yeah. just wish co-op made more sense with its setup so i can practice before taking it live. 1. American CV's are at a disadvantage to IJN CV's 2. Learn to use your Alt key and strafe + manual drop.. 3. Wait for incoming carrier changes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 mous1 Members 269 posts 5,049 battles Report post #9 Posted February 24, 2017 well sournote the ai are randomly upgraded so you can face an upgraded ccv with higher tier planes or an upgraded cv with lowertier plans Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,756 [PVE] Taylor3006 [PVE] Members 11,939 posts 30,779 battles Report post #10 Posted February 24, 2017 The stock Hosho is not that great but is easy to get the experience to upgrade. It wasn't all that much so I free xp'd most of it and plopped a 10 point captain in her. Great ship and in Coop you face off against the same ship although if you are stock, it MAY be upgraded. It is the USN line that run into trouble in Coop, you often face air supremacy bot carriers if you are strike (in Bogue and Saipan) and it makes the fight a pain. Learn to strafe and that really helps. I also lock down enemy fighters over friendly ships and life becomes easy. When I got the tier 5 IJN carrier (forget the name, begins with a Z) I only had a 9 point captain to put in her. Stock ship and a 9 point captain was horrible so I free xp'd the upgrades AND the last point on the captain. She rocks now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 [CVA16] NightStalker357 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 164 posts 21,183 battles Report post #11 Posted February 24, 2017 Taylor the IJN CV you are talking about is Zuiho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,260 cometguy Members 2,992 posts 5,204 battles Report post #12 Posted February 28, 2017 If the enemy has fighters over head that are eating up your planes, try just waiting for your AA to thin them out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [HAIFU] MakiLover69 Members 123 posts 7,823 battles Report post #13 Posted March 1, 2017 If the enemy has fighters over head that are eating up your planes, try just waiting for your AA to thin them out. Langley's AA doesnt do much; IF anything to enemy planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
182 [F7] SnowDriftTurtle Members 840 posts 10,865 battles Report post #14 Posted March 2, 2017 Langley's AA doesnt do much; IF anything to enemy planes. I think I've gotten more Close-Quarter Experts with the Langley than I have shot down enemy planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
139 Sethanas Members 739 posts 7,780 battles Report post #15 Posted March 2, 2017 i love trying to grind CV and learning to play cv, in COOP and the npc has t4 planes while i have t3. so here i am trying to learn how to cv in coop with the npc parking higher tier planes over my carrier killing my planes as i try to take off..... really? what the hell? so i cant go into random because i will 100% not be up to par with the people who know what they are doing in a cv, i cant even practice in coop now, because the pc will start with higher tier planes; how am i supposed to grind out the exp or know how to use this damn thing? how are we playing against FULLY UPGRADED versions of our un-upgraded ships? it just seems stupid because if i wanted that i'd go to random for that. maybe this is stupid but it doesnt seem productive to coop play. Easy fix, just play a few games, when you figure out how ridiculously stupid the Bot CVs are you'll find ways to bait their planes over your cruisers or if all else fails just have your own AA guns cut em down. Against players you'd be doubly disadvantaged because not only will they have the upgraded planes but they'll also be smarter and you'll have to deal with smarter cruisers and BBs aswell.... Pretty sure they treat all boats the same in that regard, some of the bot DDs will have upgraded torps when your player DDs don't, its just one of those things you have to deal with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
