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Notser's New Ranked DD Play Video Shows Gunboats Broken in DD Engagements.

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As the video demonstrates. There's literally nothing IJN DD can do against gunboats. The camo value means little because at the relative speed of both DDs approaching each other, there's no time for IJN DD to disengage. Once IJN DD is spotted, it's pretty much dead.

 

IJN DDs should have a turn radius buff.


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Right, because Notser is always right. I took on a Mahan with a Shiratsuyu. Long story short: I survived, Mahan didn't.

 

Gunboats are not broken, player ability and skill is broken.


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This is not a 1v1 game where every ship should be balanced against every other ship.  Most ships have a scenario where they're relatively helpless unless there's a large skill gap between players.

 

This is also not new information.  IJN destroyers have always struggled in 1v1 against most other destroyers in a pure gunfight.


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They are even more garbage now than before. Shima in particular got nerfed pretty badly when they kept the already low DPM the same.

 

Basically need to fire more to achieve the same DPM. But with the turret traverse it just meant it had to forego maneuvering to achieve the old DPM.


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Had a game where I pub-stomped the three enemy DD's, and their Belfast. Two of the DD's were killed by my guns. Ah, and this was in my Shiratsuyu. 


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Maybe you should go watch the Flamu video that came out today, where he is playing an IJN DD in Ranked.

Learning to play a ship to its strengths while denying your enemies the strengths of their ships is a high level skill in WoWs.

Its not easy and I'm in no way able to pull it off all the time but it can be done.  


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Lead enemy gunboat DD to your fleet, problem solved.


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Shocking news: destroyers that have better guns are more likely to win a gunfight.

 

As it should be. The advantage of a ship like Shiratsuyu in ranked is its ability to make smoke a very dangerous place for enemy ships to stay in. While it is less useful in a straight up cap control gunfight, that's what it has to sacrifice.


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Shiratsuyu is so good in ranked right now. It's 16 torps make for a lovely torp wall that can be deadly for all the smoke campers that think they are safe but then they eat torps. 


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Maybe you should go watch the Flamu video that came out today, where he is playing an IJN DD in Ranked.

Learning to play a ship to its strengths while denying your enemies the strengths of their ships is a high level skill in WoWs.

Its not easy and I'm in no way able to pull it off all the time but it can be done.  

 

For ease of viewing. 

 


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So now that IJN are neutered is this how we start the process for gunboats? DD vs DD engagements is hardly an issue.

 

 


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I'm beating a lot of shiras on this ranked season with sims, but at the same time I can feel the lack of torpedo power to punish the belfast spam in smokes. It's a tradeoff


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Aim well and engage from the USN DDs weakness aka not real close. Fighting RU DDs in ranked? Don't even bother... Let that Kiev go, just let him keep sailing away. That's what he will likely do, try and sit at max range and attempt to burn down a BB solo over 12 minutes. Or... Just pull him closer to a Cruiser and wait for them to nail him once or twice then finish him off.


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Shocking news: destroyers that have better guns are more likely to win a gunfight.

 

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^ Lol, this. As soon as gunboat DDs can fire 16 really nasty torps in five seconds, the argument about gun equality will become valid.


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Seriously people just learn for yourself and do what works for you. Just because Noster or flamu post a video doesn't make it so. Stop relying on other people to tell you what to do in game and try using your brain. From what ive seen in game most players brains could use a little exercise.


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Maybe you should go watch the Flamu video that came out today, where he is playing an IJN DD in Ranked.

Learning to play a ship to its strengths while denying your enemies the strengths of their ships is a high level skill in WoWs.

Its not easy and I'm in no way able to pull it off all the time but it can be done.  

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I'm beating a lot of shiras on this ranked season with sims, but at the same time I can feel the lack of torpedo power to punish the belfast spam in smokes. It's a tradeoff

 

Exactly this. Shira also has stealth advantage, not the gunboats fault Shira can't play Botes.


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It's an easy, obvious fix. Just give the Shira some Yamato guns with Khab speed and a Benson rudder shift. That way it will stand a chance.


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It's an easy, obvious fix. Just give the Shira some Yamato guns with Khab speed and a Benson rudder shift. That way it will stand a chance.

 

you should develop the next line of USN Cruisers I think.

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Been looking for any videos (recent) on IJN torpedo DDs just to get a feel for them. Most of the videos are old or premium ones. :(


 

Seems to say a lot about the torpedo boats and with yet another new gunboat DD line I am really having to keep the faith when I'm playing IJN with no CE and getting smashed every game when every DD on the enemy side is a gunboat. I started off feeling it was a challenge; now I'm just thinking I'm the practice ship for other players. :teethhappy:

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This is not a 1v1 game where every ship should be balanced against every other ship.  Most ships have a scenario where they're relatively helpless unless there's a large skill gap between players.

 

This is also not new information.  IJN destroyers have always struggled in 1v1 against most other destroyers in a pure gunfight.

 

    Concur. And, btw, it sure is good to see your posts around here again Mesrith.

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I have killed a Khab running away in a  Shim with guns.  Its all based on how much you get hit.


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