3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #1 Posted February 8, 2017 Let's talk OP huh? Two of red Ranger's DB fly over and drop on my Gneisenau that is turning hard to starboard, AA guns blazing (no upgrades). Three fires started - may have been four as i could almost feel the heat - AND they take between 45% to 50% of my health? A broadside salvo from another BB? Sure, I could see the damage. Fires from a Shchors? Understandable. But from only two DB groups? And man do those fires wrack up damage. I would have died had it not been a last desperate attempt by the carrier to take me out. (Have no clue who he was targeting rest of match). We won though... and I survived. Maybe someone sees that type of effect as a-okay... but to me... it seems a bit OP. TIA for your comments. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #2 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Don't worry. WHen you upgrade it, if 2 Ranger DBs fly withing spitting distance of a Gneisenau, none will live long enough to even shout out, "OH SHlT!" Plus it takes more luck than you can imagine to actually get such a good result. It's B S for sure, but the most B S thing about it is that it either shouldn't be possible at all, no matter how well someone drops, or it should be possible all the time when someone drops well. Edited February 8, 2017 by Captain_Dorja Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
458 AspiringCodger Beta Testers 2,029 posts Report post #3 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) It's B S for sure, but the most B S thing about it is that it either shouldn't be possible at all, no matter how well someone drops, or it should be possible all the time when someone drops well. This. It's way too RNG dependent. Last night in my Ranger, I auto dropped with one DB squadron on a Bayern while they were under attack by a catapult fighter and got 12k damage and two fires. About 10 seconds later, I manually dropped on the same ship with perfect placement and no increased drop radius as the catapult fighter had been taken out and I got zero hits lol. Not sure how that keeps happening when the entire drop radius is within the ship's outline... Edited February 8, 2017 by AspiringCodger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,763 [-K-] Lord_Zath Supertest Coordinator, Alpha Tester, WoWS Community Contributors, Wiki Editor 6,628 posts 29,065 battles Report post #4 Posted February 8, 2017 Upgrade Gneisenau hull ASAP the 128's are amazing for AA. As far as taking three fires' worth of damage, I'm guessing your DCP was on cooldown? Also, was your AA compliment 100% healthy when you were bombed? Or was this halfway through a battle after you had taken some hits? AA dies easily, and your secondaries can as well if you don't have Aux Mod in slot 1... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #5 Posted February 8, 2017 This is why I run MFCAA on my Gneisenau...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,910 [RLGN] Estimated_Prophet Members 19,399 posts 36,235 battles Report post #6 Posted February 8, 2017 (edited) Sounds like you got manual dropped/bombed, and the CV driver made a recent sacrifice to RNG. Don't know how many times I've made dive bomber attacks against difficult targets, only to have RNG laugh and say 'screw you' in the form of incapacitations or complete misses... Screw dive bomber incapacitions, most of the time those don't save your CV from an attacking destroyer, raw damage does. Edited February 8, 2017 by Estimated_Prophet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #7 Posted February 8, 2017 Sounds good guys... I will have to do a review of my ship/commander skills... I don't want to experience this in ranked ; best if i can minimize it at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,367 [HINON] Captain_Dorja [HINON] Beta Testers 5,913 posts 5,645 battles Report post #8 Posted February 8, 2017 Sounds good guys... I will have to do a review of my ship/commander skills... I don't want to experience this in ranked ; best if i can minimize it at least. If you see a CV in ranked, it'll most likely be a Hiryu in 3/1/2 spec so you're unlikely to have to worry about it. Gneisenau AA with 2nd hull is pretty OP tbh. It'll smoke Hiryu and Saipan planes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #9 Posted February 9, 2017 If you see a CV in ranked, it'll most likely be a Hiryu in 3/1/2 spec so you're unlikely to have to worry about it. Gneisenau AA with 2nd hull is pretty OP tbh. It'll smoke Hiryu and Saipan planes. Gneisenau B hull+AFT has no problems against Saipan planes at all. It struggles a bit against Ranger and Hiryu though, because they have more planes. Still, you're much better off than most BBs against a CV. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
34 Vortex__ Members 66 posts 6,433 battles Report post #10 Posted February 22, 2017 (edited) Carriers are the bane of the game, much like artillery is in WoT. Fortunately you don't see them all the time anymore. When they are in game though, I usually log and get another boat/game. I don't play carrier games for the most part. Edited February 22, 2017 by Vortex__ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
