3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #1 Posted February 7, 2017 ... for now. In its current form, this mode is cancer. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,941 [CHIGR] pikohan [CHIGR] Members 3,641 posts 18,823 battles Report post #2 Posted February 7, 2017 Wow, I missed that. Best patch ever, thanks WG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
53 stockmankrause Members 779 posts 8,226 battles Report post #3 Posted February 7, 2017 ... for now. In its current form, this mode is cancer. I heard that the fort killed a tirpitz but never seen bastion also ocean is gone. Just had the ocean map its cancer also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
134 [KOOKS] Fastwolf66 Beta Testers 349 posts 10,692 battles Report post #4 Posted February 7, 2017 I like bastion... forces dinamic gameplay, the camping sniping team loses. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,455 [FOXEH] DoomStomper Beta Testers 3,985 posts 2,373 battles Report post #5 Posted February 7, 2017 Already posted this elsewhere, but here's an amusing Yuro video on the subject for those who haven't seen it: 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
924 [TSF_1] pewpewpew42 Members 3,301 posts 7,816 battles Report post #6 Posted February 7, 2017 I didn't mind it, but then again, I never played it in a DD. It's a good idea, but it DOES need work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,359 [LEGIO] Lampshade_M1A2 Members 3,736 posts 10,873 battles Report post #7 Posted February 7, 2017 NOOOOOOO! I liked bastion mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #8 Posted February 7, 2017 I like bastion... forces dinamic gameplay, the camping sniping team loses. It could work for PvE, but the outcome of a PvP game should never be affected by NPCs. As a DD, you're screwed unless someone suppresses the fort. NPC guns of battleship caliber with cruiser level accuracy? No. Just no. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
594 sbcptnitro Members 2,709 posts 17,651 battles Report post #9 Posted February 7, 2017 Best news I've read all day! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
60 ikeystonei Members 319 posts 5,590 battles Report post #10 Posted February 7, 2017 Two Thumbs Up ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,198 Tachnechdorus Beta Testers 3,315 posts 27,013 battles Report post #11 Posted February 7, 2017 OCEAN was one of my favorite maps a pure night naval open sea battle with NO place to hide..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
594 sbcptnitro Members 2,709 posts 17,651 battles Report post #12 Posted February 7, 2017 "..in response to statistics..." So just how many times did "Fort kills Yamato" pop up in their data? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
251 [0ASIS] HKRevolutionOfOurTime Members 842 posts 9,792 battles Report post #13 Posted February 7, 2017 Bastion should be a game mode in which all forts are on the map edge. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,045 [GGWP] Destroyer_Zeka Beta Testers 2,363 posts 14,168 battles Report post #14 Posted February 7, 2017 I like bastion... forces dinamic gameplay, the camping sniping team loses. Thats more or less what the game is like anyways As a DD, you're screwed unless someone suppresses the fort. NPC guns of battleship caliber with cruiser level accuracy? No. Just no. NPC guns of a battleship with a cruiser's level accuracy AND a DD's reload time, you mean OCEAN was one of my favorite maps a pure night naval open sea battle with NO place to hide..... I take it your a BB main? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
427 Hatework Members 1,369 posts 3,667 battles Report post #15 Posted February 7, 2017 I didn't mind it, but then again, I never played it in a DD. It's a good idea, but it DOES need work. Ive played it twice, once in a DD, once in a BB. The map was no different from any other in the BB, and i took more damage from stupid fort guns in the DD than i did the enemy team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,855 RedSeaBear Members 5,450 posts 21,017 battles Report post #16 Posted February 7, 2017 There was one form of Bastion I really liked playing and that was Atlantic Bastion with ONLY 3 Forts. The 4 fort bastion that showed up on Atlantic was just silly. But Bastion on Hot Spot was Stupid. The middle fort that appeared on Hot Spot was insanely Over Powered and the whole format was confusing. Thankfully I only had to suffer playing Bastion on Hot Spot once but I always feared it would show up and ruin my day. I think if they tone down the damage the forts can do, settle on a Bastion format that can easily be understood and played with or against we might have a fun game mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #17 Posted February 7, 2017 (edited) I heard that the fort killed a tirpitz but never seen bastion also ocean is gone. Just had the ocean map its cancer also. Stop whining about Ocean. You're in the minority. It was the single most requested map in beta and also the most realistic map in the game. If you want naval combat realism Ocean is the only map that you should like. the only ships that have it rough on Ocean are short-ranged cruisers and some destroyers. Most destroyers, most cruisers (long-ranged ones, particularly German and Russian and some US), and all battleships and carriers do perfectly fine on Ocean. Back on topic: Yeah Bastion needed work so this is probably the best decision. Forts were hitting my Yamato harder than the enemy Yamato. Edited February 7, 2017 by Destroyer_Kiyoshimo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,075 battles Report post #18 Posted February 7, 2017 SWEET! Ocean can only be seen at tier 10 and the chances of it being seen were LOWERED! Bastion didn't bug me much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,455 [FOXEH] DoomStomper Beta Testers 3,985 posts 2,373 battles Report post #19 Posted February 7, 2017 Bastion should be a game mode in which all forts are on the map edge. I could get behind that idea... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,075 battles Report post #20 Posted February 7, 2017 Stop whining about Ocean. You're in the minority. It was the single most requested map in beta and also the most realistic map in the game. If you want naval combat realism Ocean is the only map that you should like. the only ships that have it rough on Ocean are short-ranged cruisers and some destroyers. Most destroyers, most cruisers (long-ranged ones, particularly German and Russian and some US), and all battleships and carriers do perfectly fine on Ocean. I was against Ocean from the outset because it forces the playstyle EVERYONE HATES. Long range sniper mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
964 [PLPT] SergeantHop Members 4,435 posts 6,599 battles Report post #21 Posted February 7, 2017 Rejoice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
9,860 [NMKJT] VTAdmiral Beta Testers 24,800 posts 3,947 battles Report post #22 Posted February 7, 2017 I was against Ocean from the outset because it forces the playstyle EVERYONE HATES. Long range sniper mode. I find I'm more comfortable with aggression on Ocean as a battleship because there are no islands to funnel me into destroyer ambush zones, no choke points, and no islands for bad enemy battleship captains to hide behind because they don't know how to use their armor. Cruisers have it worst on Ocean, I'll admit, so a CA main having a vastly different opinion from mine is understandable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
646 [KMS] Nachoo31 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 4,044 posts Report post #23 Posted February 7, 2017 YES!!! Have a fort hit you on the nose and detonate your DD . I think I have been killed by the fort the most. 5 or 6 times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
436 _Luna Alpha Tester 884 posts 3,403 battles Report post #24 Posted February 7, 2017 If you want naval combat realism Ocean is the only map that you should like. People play WoWS for its realism? And good riddance to Bastion. As it was, it was seriously broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,075 battles Report post #25 Posted February 7, 2017 I find I'm more comfortable with aggression on Ocean as a battleship because there are no islands to funnel me into destroyer ambush zones, no choke points, and no islands for bad enemy battleship captains to hide behind because they don't know how to use their armor. Cruisers have it worst on Ocean, I'll admit, so a CA main having a vastly different opinion from mine is understandable. Not even that, DD's really can't close in all that well, cruisers it's a death sentence to be anywhere near the battle line, my Roon can attest to that. Only thing that kept me alive in my Roon was sitting 19km way and shaking my tail. I even hate it in BBs. I just flatly hate the map. Regardless of what I drive at that given moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites