Team Killer Shaming

[JanusSaibot]

It's frustrating. I almost never damage teammates. Twice this week, 2 complete flukes have resulted in me getting team killer 2 separate times. First: playing Bismarck, a DD with 700hp left, runs into me in the heat of battle, at the same time I fired, and he dies. We win by a large margin, and I get 5 games (then 7 after resetting it by simply running into another player) with team killer.

 

Moments ago, at the very end of a battle, a Fuso with 500hp left is charging a DD with low hp, and I try to take out DD before he unleashes torps. I hit the Fuso, he dies a microsecond before battle ends, I have 5 games with team killer.... We win. 

 

Why is the criteria so strict? I just don't appreciate being shamed with a status I don't deserve. Aside from these 2 flukes, I've never even had team killer, because I am consciously, extremely careful about teammates around me.

[Wulfgarn]

We use to have a big TK problem and what you see now was the fix. 

 

It can be a little touchy, but overall I think the majority is ok with it.

 

I've been pink 2xs and both times I'll work it off in co-op. You can past it pretty quickly.

[_Luna]

Don't worry about it.

It's so common to see Pink now most players hardly give it a second thought.

[Oboro_DD51]

Precisely, accidents happen. I've been pink twice this month due to errant torp launches. If you apologize for it, it is all good in my book. Granted, I may give you a slightly wider berth just in case the pink was, shall we say, earned?

[VannKraken]

It's happened once to me, too, when a teammate tried to ram a ship at the end of the game after I had already let a salvo go at the same target with 4 or 5 seconds of flight time.  Just go into Co-op and pretend you are celebrating breast cancer awareness month.

[1SneakyDevil]

I'm confused the title says TK Shaming but there was no shaming involved in the thread.

 

Things happen in the heat of battle. Play off the penalty and move on.

[TenguBlade]

So let me get this straight, you opened fire on an enemy with an ally in the line of fire and you think it's unfair?  You deserve worse than pink status.

[JanusSaibot]

I'm confused the title says TK Shaming but there was no shaming involved in the thread.

 

Things happen in the heat of battle. Play off the penalty and move on.

 

Being labeled with hot-pink is what I'm referring to. 

So let me get this straight, you opened fire on an enemy with an ally in the line of fire and you think it's unfair?  You deserve worse than pink status.

Yes, I think it's unfair. I did 500 damage to a teammate I was trying to help, and that 500 damage was enough to kill him. Not to mention, it was inconsequential.  I've been hit accidentally by 3 torpedoes fired from a ship in my own division, and it had more of an impact that my 500 damage. I know for a fact, he didn't receive team killer (and I don't think he should have). I think the difference was that his 3 torps didn't kill me.

[Rilak]

 

Being labeled with hot-pink is what I'm referring to. 

Yes, I think it's unfair. I did 500 damage to a teammate I was trying to help, and that 500 damage was enough to kill him. Not to mention, it was inconsequential.  I've been hit accidentally by 3 torpedoes fired from a ship in my own division, and it had more of an impact that my 500 damage. I know for a fact, he didn't receive team killer (and I don't think he should have). I think the difference was that his 3 torps didn't kill me.

 

you think that is  unfair how about this !  im sitting still in smoke shooting away with my rapid fire guns. on my flint. (atlanta basically) then strange noise your a team killer  message.....  im like uh ?  i was shooting  at a bb 12km away.   well some bonehead with 42hp  sailed so close to me through my smoke going full speed and took a single hit killing him, instant  pink.   ( had to look in after battle report to see what happened.)

   i just had a laugh and moved on, being pink is not so bad most will avoid you

[JanusSaibot]

 

you think that is  unfair how about this !  im sitting still in smoke shooting away with my rapid fire guns. on my flint. (atlanta basically) then strange noise your a team killer  message.....  im like uh ?  i was shooting  at a bb 12km away.   well some bonehead with 42hp  sailed so close to me through my smoke going full speed and took a single hit killing him, instant  pink.   ( had to look in after battle report to see what happened.)

   i just had a laugh and moved on, being pink is not so bad most will avoid you

 

lol. Yeah, that's pretty unlucky. Well, I guess I can look at it that way - more room to maneuver. 

[Jim_Byrnes]

Ya know it happens to everyone here at some point just try not to repeat the incident... And the Black Swan is a great toy to blow thru 5 pew-pew games to redeem yourself....

[Umikami]

 

Being labeled with hot-pink is what I'm referring to.

Yes, I think it's unfair. I did 500 damage to a teammate I was trying to help, and that 500 damage was enough to kill him. Not to mention, it was inconsequential.  I've been hit accidentally by 3 torpedoes fired from a ship in my own division, and it had more of an impact that my 500 damage. I know for a fact, he didn't receive team killer (and I don't think he should have). I think the difference was that his 3 torps didn't kill me.

 

Yeah, the entitlement just slathers off onto the floor here.

If you kill someone on your own team, you are a teamkiller.

Period.

Do your five games,

and quit whining like a small female dog.

[R_Razor]

So let me get this straight, you opened fire on an enemy with an ally in the line of fire and you think it's unfair?  You deserve worse than pink status.

 

Yeah, I was hoping I was misunderstanding what he'd typed but I just couldn't see any other way to read it. Too worried about getting a kill in the case of the Fuso apparently. Enjoy the pink pal.

[CylonRed]

It is not that strict - I have never been pink in 2600+ games.  I have had ships hit me,  I have hit them, I had shots hit them from secondaries (before secondary damage was removed), and I have had main shells hit - never pink.  Technically it was deserved because you killed a teammate - it is not a difficult concept.

[khorender_1]

How much team damage were you doing before that shot ? and you deserve the pink because of your greed for the kill

[Grizley]

You literally killed a team mate.  So you're a team killer.

 

Play it off and move on.

[JanusSaibot]

 

Yeah, the entitlement just slathers off onto the floor here.

If you kill someone on your own team, you are a teamkiller.

Period.

Do your five games,

and quit whining like a small female dog.

 

I don't even know where "entitlement" factors in to this conversation at all.... it's not remotely relevant here. What you are purporting to be "whining", is a valid a concern, questioning the implementation of the team-killer system that is in place.

 

 

Yeah, I was hoping I was misunderstanding what he'd typed but I just couldn't see any other way to read it. Too worried about getting a kill in the case of the Fuso apparently. Enjoy the pink pal.

 

 how can you possibly speculate opon that which you know nothing of? You weren't in the battle. I wasn't aware that we were only seconds from victory, and I wanted to kill the DD before he unleashed torps on the fuso. 1 shell hit the Fuso.

 

It is not that strict - I have never been pink in 2600+ games.  I have had ships hit me,  I have hit them, I had shots hit them from secondaries (before secondary damage was removed), and I have had main shells hit - never pink.  Technically it was deserved because you killed a teammate - it is not a difficult concept.

 

I contend your viewpoint that I "deserved" it, for all the reasons I've listed. Through 4200+ games I've been clean. Twice this week, flukes have earned me team-killer. 

[JanusSaibot]

How much team damage were you doing before that shot ? and you deserve the pink because of your greed for the kill

 

Is anyone even reading what I've said? "It's frustrating. I almost never damage teammates. Why is the criteria so strict? I just don't appreciate being shamed with a status I don't deserve. Aside from these 2 flukes, I've never even had team killer, because I am consciously, extremely careful about teammates around me."

[R_Razor]

 

Is anyone even reading what I've said? "It's frustrating. I almost never damage teammates. Why is the criteria so strict? I just don't appreciate being shamed with a status I don't deserve. Aside from these 2 flukes, I've never even had team killer, because I am consciously, extremely careful about teammates around me."

 

The Fuso would disagree with you, likely the the DD you exploded while you were zoomed in would as well. And you can say "almost never" all you want, but the simple fact is, the system is based off of average damage over time so apparently your definition of almost never needs some work.

[JanusSaibot]

 

The Fuso would disagree with you, likely the the DD you exploded while you were zoomed in would as well. And you can say "almost never" all you want, but the simple fact is, the system is based off of average damage over time so apparently your definition of almost never needs some work.

 

The criteria to earn team-killer have not ever been released by Wargaming - The purpose being so people can't take that information, and abuse it by doing just enough damage to avoid the penalty. With that said, you are speculating upon that which you know nothing about, if we can even call it speculation. 

[CylonRed]

Through 4200+ games I've been clean. Twice this week, flukes have earned me team-killer. 

 

 

Because you team killed - it is a definition and you meet the definition and you get the temp status.  Do not make it more difficult than it is.

 

Anything beyond this point is just you wanting to argue and troll.

[R_Razor]

 

The criteria to earn team-killer have not ever been released by Wargaming - The purpose being so people can't take that information, and abuse it by doing just enough damage to avoid the penalty. With that said, you are speculating upon that which you know nothing about, if we can even call it speculation. 

 

lmboyou posted it bud I don't have to speculate. You're pink because you team killed. You team killed because you wanted the kill shot even though the Fuso was well within the dispersion cone of your guns and you team killed because you were so fixated on your target that you failed to note the friendly DD in your line of fire. YOU posted that info my memory failing friend. Of course you could always come back and say you weren't zoomed in when you killed the DD because after all, everybody shoots unzoomed right?

[LemonadeWarrior]

I once team killed a Yamato.. Got pink and had a good laugh. Just don't be that guy who torps behind your own line...

 

And yes, you deserved that status.

[Judge_Doom]

Just finished my penance for being pink, there is no shaming, everyone seems to take it for granted that we will all be pink at one time or another.

[JanusSaibot]

 

Because you team killed - it is a definition and you meet the definition and you get the temp status.  Do not make it more difficult than it is.

 

Anything beyond this point is just you wanting to argue and troll.

 

I am not trolling, nor arguing. I brought up a valid concern, questioning the fairness of the team-killer system in place. My viewpoint is under attack, and I am defending my viewpoint. I have not and will not make this personal. i am concerned with the fairness of the team-killer system. At this point, I think I'm the only one interested in that area.

 

 

lmboyou posted it bud I don't have to speculate. You're pink because you team killed. You team killed because you wanted the kill shot even though the Fuso was well within the dispersion cone of your guns and you team killed because you were so fixated on your target that you failed to note the friendly DD in your line of fire. YOU posted that info my memory failing friend. Of course you could always come back and say you weren't zoomed in when you killed the DD because after all, everybody shoots unzoomed right?

 

No, you are speculating, because you are attempting to tell me, what I was thinking, and what I was doing, and why I was doing it, with absolutely nothing to go on. As I've said, I shot at the DD while the Fuso was in my sights, while zoomed in, because I thought I could hit the DD and kill him, before he got off his torps, without killing Fuso. I was mistaken, and 1 shell hit him, and killed him. It was inconsequential.