My turn to try out the "Average Player's" mentality...

[Swagger897]

"I play for fun"

"[edited]off, let my drive my own ship"

"I don't need your advice, I'll do what I want"

 

Sometimes while playing this game, I'll just never understand what the other 10-15k other players have going through their mind to make them think that this is the correct mentality. Whether if it's charging into caps with a BB, skirting the edges of the map in a DD, or a CV striking the other at high-tier, it will always amaze me to see such poor quality gameplay to the extent where I sit in my chair just wondering, "what is it that makes your clock tick?"

 

Let's face it here, and in all honesty.... The average player, is not the average we would like to think of. There is no "bell curve" to this game, in fact it's more like the bowl curve, high on the edge(s), and low in the center... The sheer amount of absolutely pathetic players, not only myself but from the vast majority of others who play this game and see it with their own eyes, is unbelievable. Here's how the bowl works:

At the top on piss-poor side, you've got those who I described with my intro. These are the one's who are not only just bad, but refute to take any advice to get better. Then you've got those who are just equally bad, but play casually who aren't as hostile. The further down we travel in the bowl, we see more and more, yet fewer count, of those who are the "true average player" statistically wise. Now on the upswing, we have the average players who actively seek to git gud. Further ahead of them on the upwards curve, we start to see some of the players who know how to carry matches, however, they're still learning more advanced ways as to how a match plays out. They may get the occasional great game, however they're not at their best. Ahead of these people, we see the "pre-unicum" players. These people are able to read a map and see it play out, succesfully captain their ships and carry victories. These people make up the majority of the game who are well-versed in good team gameplay. Finally above these players we have the unicum players, who know all ends of the game. There may be a few bad eggs in the them but for the most part they want to help out others become better players in the game, and always win.

 

 

Regardless of how much others along side of myself try to help other people at this game to teach them to become better players, it seems like we will always be out numbered by the "potatoes." So for the next week* or so, I guarantee to everyone I'll be trying my hardest to fail as hard as I can and be as confusing as I can to others in this game. I wont push up in the start of games, instead I'll charge in and turn broadside to get my torps off, or my third gun and get instantly deleted. I'll push alongside the edges of the map acting in a "sneaky" manner, and die on first contact of the enemy. I'll get my Saipan out and go for the enemy Ranger/Hiryu, instead of spotting for my team and focusing priority ships. 

 

To the average player, this will make sense to them and they should follow what every other average player is doing too. Just to make my point clear enough I'll also disable my chat where I can't see what anyone else is saying at all, unless I'm one of the hot-headed types of players who must talk about everything in game. I'll try as hard as I can to forget everything about trying to be a unicum player, and do my best to be a solid 700 WTR player, because if I don't have that 43% W/R that everyone else thinks is hot crap... then I must clearly be doing something wrong here....

 

 

 

* Maybe for just a day.... I can't risk giving all my secrets away...

[Amatsukaze_DD]

The "average" play of this game hurts my head sometimes. I can't fathom the absolute stupid decisions some people make.

[its_pepito]

Guess its time to take that week long break I've been thinking of.   

 

[Canadatron]

Being average is fine, but never wanting to get better at something is just what I can't comprehend. My parents would have murdered me...

[1nv4d3rZ1m]

The "average" play of this game hurts my head sometimes. I can't fathom the absolute stupid decisions some people make.

 

Played a game where the USN CV that was AS on my team ran out of planes half way through the match against an IJN strike CV. He claimed it was because he had the stock fighters and couldnt win the battles, in the after battle report it became clear, he was fighting over enemy CLs and fed one IJN CA almost 30 plane kills. 

[CAPTMUDDXX]

Get use to it and enjoy the game Do your best at all times also nothing said  here will bring an improvement from those you feel are sub par

[Sir_Godz]

just play like the average BB player and you won't get near to overcoming 43% or play CV and don't send out planes until 6 minutes have gone by, never scout, strafe,defend or assist any player on your team in any way.

[Deputy276]

Get use to it and enjoy the game Do your best at all times also nothing said  here will bring an improvement from those you feel are sub par

 

Truly words of wisdom. Let me add just one more thing:

 

It's only a game. 

That's right people. A freaking GAME. Most folks use it to relax after a hard day in the real world. WG even advertises their stuff as a form of relaxation. WOWS is NOT going to pay the rent, pay the car note, pay your mortgage, or put food on the table. It's nothing more than entertainment. Something to pass the time. Don't believe that? Go out to a public area in your town and start bragging about your Win Rate and other meaningless-to-the-rest-of-humanity stats. Just drop us a line from the mental ward after they lock you up. Maybe you can get a clan formed with mass murderers and psychopaths. 

 

 

[KnightFandragon]

Being average is fine, but never wanting to get better at something is just what I can't comprehend. My parents would have murdered me...

 

 

Played a game where the USN CV that was AS on my team ran out of planes half way through the match against an IJN strike CV. He claimed it was because he had the stock fighters and couldnt win the battles, in the after battle report it became clear, he was fighting over enemy CLs and fed one IJN CA almost 30 plane kills. 

 

LOL, there is a difference between "average" play, and "Scrub" play.  What you described there is "SCRUB" play. 

 

Your average player might make the occasional blunder, lose track of his planes or something, but it wont be an every time occurance....

 

THEN AGAIN........maybe the AVERAGE has plummeted to the level of just simply being able to get the ship to move being a "unicum" level feat....

 

In WoT, I thnk the "average" win rate was like 48%....sooo, yeah...maybe im giving 'average' players to much credit...

[Skpstr]

"I play for fun"

"[edited]off, let my drive my own ship"

 

Sometimes while playing this game, I'll just never understand what the other 10-15k other players have going through their mind to make them think that this is the correct mentality. Whether if it's charging into caps with a BB, skirting the edges of the map in a DD, or a CV striking the other at high-tier, it will always amaze me to see such poor quality gameplay to the extent where I sit in my chair just wondering, "what is it that makes your clock tick?"

 

 

 

You cannot talk about a "correct" mentality without talking about goals and expectations. Chances are, whoever you are, whatever mentality you consider "correct" coincides with what you're trying to accomplish.

 

Conversely, your "experiment" is doomed to failure, because you cannot honestly switch your goals and expectations, so you will not have the "correct" mentality, best you can do is attempt to simulate it.

 

It's really a wasted effort, because short of div mates, people we know, or the odd motivated stranger, we don't have teammates, we have environmental factors.

 

I used a simile in another thread, likening this game to a soccer match played in the rain, on a muddy field.

 

Does a soccer player attempt to determine what motivates the mud and rain?

[_Sarcasticat_]

I hate seeing the "Good" players rail and complain about us average joes. It's annoying as all hell and gets none of us anywhere except into an argument. Seriously, if you're so damn good, CARRY OUR TEAMS THEN. If we're too bad, then too bad for you! You're the good ones! 

[BlazerSparta]

You now you can look at performance distributions on warships.today right?

 

They look pretty damn bell shaped to me.

 

Except the CV curves.

 

Those are all over the place.

[its_pepito]

I hate seeing the "Good" players rail and complain about us average joes. It's annoying as all hell and gets none of us anywhere except into an argument. Seriously, if you're so damn good, CARRY OUR TEAMS THEN. If we're too bad, then too bad for you! You're the good ones! 

 

The majority of the game becomes too heavy even if you're super unicum, you cannot escape and carry when you're down to 4 ships against their 6 or 8.  Team based game and all....

[Deputy276]

What I find somewhat weird and humorous at the same time, is we rarely see things like what is described in post 5 in this thread in Co-Op mode. Sure, we have some "scrub" players. But mainly because they are new to the game. I prefer "inexperienced" to scrub, because I think, for most of them, they can and WILL get better. What's also strange is that PvP players so desperately HATE PvE, yet, if overnight, the PvE play was eliminated, these same players described as scrubs, potatoes, tomatoes and eggplants (I threw that in), would BE ON PvP player's teams en masse!!! Imagine what the forum would look like then!!! 

 

[Kilpanic]

 So for the next week* or so, I guarantee to everyone I'll be trying my hardest to fail as hard as I can and be as confusing as I can to others in this game. 

 

That's a little disingenous. Average players aren't trying to fail, they are trying their best with a limited scope of knowledge and skills. 

 

Why don't you instead try to be creatively constructive and figure out what you can get out of a game that consists almost entirely of random pick-up matches? 

[NeutralState]

Bruh, you post your stats in your signature.

 

Look to the data collected. The performance is a perfect bell curve.

 

It is just that the craps on the left end is more noticeable because they deliberately play poorly.

 

You do not notice vast majority of the players, which is at the center of the curve.

 

What you have described is not the average player. You have describe trolls, ragers, and unpleasant immature butt holes.

 

Also, indicated by your ratings. You are far out right in the curve, so right, that you can't even see the curve. You are the opposite of what you are describing. The ones that deliberately ruining the game for everyone else are so far left on the curve they can't see the curve either.

[SteelClaw]

 

Truly words of wisdom. Let me add just one more thing:

 

It's only a game. 

That's right people. A freaking GAME. Most folks use it to relax after a hard day in the real world. WG even advertises their stuff as a form of relaxation. WOWS is NOT going to pay the rent, pay the car note, pay your mortgage, or put food on the table. It's nothing more than entertainment. Something to pass the time. Don't believe that? Go out to a public area in your town and start bragging about your Win Rate and other meaningless-to-the-rest-of-humanity stats. Just drop us a line from the mental ward after they lock you up. Maybe you can get a clan formed with mass murderers and psychopaths. 

 

 

 

I would have no problem with this if you all stayed out of the competitive parts of the game like ranked battles. 

[HanoverFist1970]

 never wanting to get better at something is just what I can't comprehend. 

 

I don't ever encounter this.  Where is this person or people that keep saying they dont want to get better? 

I believe everyone wants to be or get better, they simply don't want to hear criticisms every move they make in game every dang time they play it.

I say it over and over . It is not what you say but how you say it.

 

A buddy of mine plays this game since CBT and loves it, he wants to get better he is simply incapable. He's 57, an old burnt out slow hippie, he's not losing to piss you off or get boating lessons. Make no mistake his intention is to win and help every game. If someone offers a plan or advice he'll play along. If someone decides to chastise or berate his play even if there was a good lesson or info in the insult , he'll still tell you to GFY , and honestly at this point the way some people talk to others in game I don't blame him.

 

Sorry got off track , the point is if you shut him down he is done listening, not because he doesn't want to learn, he simply doesn't want to learn it from you.

 

 

[Deputy276]

 

I would have no problem with this if you all stayed out of the competitive parts of the game like ranked battles. 

 

I play ONLY PvE. I have a grand total of 12 games in Random. And I only have them because of a weird WG requirement in order to post on the forum. Now....having said that, how about a reciprocal deal where Random players STAY OUT of PvE?

[_Big_Lou_]

"I play for fun"

 

"[edited]off, let my drive my own ship"

 

"I don't need your advice, I'll do what I want"

 

Swagger, I can't help but wonder the following: Is this attitude generational? Is your frustration with the millennials?

 

Consider things if I put them in a different light: How would a player behave and approach the game if the following things shaped their lives or beliefs...

They like participation trophies.

Believe in the ideal that there are no winers and losers.

Impatience with anything that requires effort (I want it fast and I want it now).

 

This is an honest question. I am competitive and want to learn from every loss, however, I agree that there is an abundance of people who could care less.

[SteelClaw]

 

I play ONLY PvE. I have a grand total of 12 games in Random. And I only have them because of a weird WG requirement in order to post on the forum. Now....having said that, how about a reciprocal deal where Random players STAY OUT of PvE?

 

I would be more than happy to take you up on that. I never play the PVE part of the game. 

[Patton5150]

Blame that on WG. they're the ones that set up the rewards format for Ranked

[Swagger897]

 

Swagger, I can't help but wonder the following: Is this attitude generational? Is your frustration with the millennials?

 

Consider things if I put them in a different light: How would a player behave and approach the game if the following things shaped their lives or beliefs...

They like participation trophies.

Believe in the ideal that there are no winers and losers.

Impatience with anything that requires effort (I want it fast and I want it now).

 

This is an honest question. I am competitive and want to learn from every loss, however, I agree that there is an abundance of people who could care less.

 

This could have some probability to it except for the fact that WG have stated the average age in this game is far older than what one would think (Above 30 years IIRC).

[LemonadeWarrior]

I do only care in Ranked Battles... In the other game modes I can be a potatoe or someone who carries. Depends on the way the planets and stars are standing whether Ill do that little bit extra

[StingRayOne]

The average player in my games caps too early, drives their BB to far ahead, goes up the middle on two brothers before the middle of the game and then on chat when they die they tell the rest we were unsupportive.

 

the average cv player hides in the corner, goes after the other cv and then losses all his planes in a 7 minute attack which resulted in squat.

 

 

the average cv player could stay within aa range, keep moving, fight with the fleet, do short runs and be more affective by moving in a circle.

 

the rest of them are beyond hope, because they do not read these posts.