4,101 [-VT-] Cit_the_bed [-VT-] Members 2,435 posts 27,399 battles Report post #1 Posted January 21, 2017 Low skill players with no desire to improve are killing this game. You can hard carry all the time and still lose. This game needs matchmaking based on player skill or win rate ASAP. 9 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,849 [AXANR] poeticmotion Members 3,650 posts 23,502 battles Report post #2 Posted January 21, 2017 Low skill players with no desire to improve are killing this game. You can hard carry all the time and still lose. This game needs matchmaking based on player skill or win rate ASAP. If you're hard carrying ALL the time and still losing, you're not carrying hard enough. Because the potatoes are on the other team as much as they are yours, over a large enough sample size. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
611 [SYN] ryuukei8569 Members 2,861 posts 10,456 battles Report post #3 Posted January 21, 2017 How about the people that stubbornly play US carriers despite the them all being hilariously UP except Saipan and Langley. Needless to say, I am tired of losing games because idiots dont get the hint, their ship is UP as [edited]and is throwing games because of it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
537 [KNTAI] Battlecruiser_Amagi [KNTAI] Members 3,134 posts 9,120 battles Report post #4 Posted January 21, 2017 I can agree with the sentiment. At times, when you try to give some advise you get the funniest of rebuttals. Sometimes, snowflakes will be snowflakes. What can you do about it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
121 [TAFY3] SluggerJackson [TAFY3] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 460 posts 12,775 battles Report post #5 Posted January 21, 2017 How about the people that stubbornly play US carriers despite the them all being hilariously UP except Saipan and Langley. Needless to say, I am tired of losing games because idiots dont get the hint, their ship is UP as [edited]and is throwing games because of it. What a horribly ignorant thing to say. I had no idea that I was throwing games because I was grinding up the US carrier branch. If everyone played as you wished there would be little variety in Random battles. I can't wait until Ranked comes back so people with your attitude will stop playing Random battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,835 CylonRed Members 7,003 posts 15,423 battles Report post #6 Posted January 21, 2017 Low skill players with no desire to improve are killing this game. You can hard carry all the time and still lose. This game needs matchmaking based on player skill or win rate ASAP. WR does not = skill and there is no magic way to determine 'skill' in the game. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
176 A_Horde_of_Sharks Members 370 posts 5,045 battles Report post #7 Posted January 21, 2017 NOOOO!!!! Where else am I going to farm potatoes?!?!!!!! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #8 Posted January 21, 2017 They aren't killing the game per se, just making it that much harder on those of us who play (and learn) to win. It's a f2p mmo, potatoes gonna potate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,687 1SneakyDevil Members 3,792 posts 23,987 battles Report post #9 Posted January 21, 2017 WR does not = skill and there is no magic way to determine 'skill' in the game. I'm still waiting on one of these lunatics to define "skill". It's amazingly the most requested adjustment to MM but no one can define it. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,337 posts 13,771 battles Report post #10 Posted January 21, 2017 Wow, elitist, much? God forbid anyone just play a game because they like it. No, no let's all be just like you, constantly unhappy chasing that elusive thing called "a win." Thanks, but no thank you. The player base isn't here to conform to how you perceive things should be. 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,520 Wombatmetal Members 4,515 posts 3,255 battles Report post #11 Posted January 21, 2017 There are more potatoes than unicums, they pay the bills and keep the lights on. And provide you with good farming opportunities 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
353 [HKC] Viva_Palestine Members 995 posts 27,531 battles Report post #12 Posted January 21, 2017 Low skill players with no desire to improve are killing this game. You can hard carry all the time and still lose. This game needs matchmaking based on player skill or win rate ASAP. Until WG introduces Beginner and Advanced team play arenas, their games will always be this way. It is a money making machine, meant to be open to the masses. Winning is nice, but isn't something one should ever expect. So it is play your best and have fun. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
611 [SYN] ryuukei8569 Members 2,861 posts 10,456 battles Report post #13 Posted January 21, 2017 What a horribly ignorant thing to say. I had no idea that I was throwing games because I was grinding up the US carrier branch. If everyone played as you wished there would be little variety in Random battles. I can't wait until Ranked comes back so people with your attitude will stop playing Random battles. Yes, you are, you are throwing gamer by playing USN carriers, that is a fact, because wargaming has done such a horrible job with CV balance. Fact is, not other ship line throws games as baldy as US CV's. So how about you show some common courtesy to your fellow players and leave the things in coop only until wargaming pulls their heads out of their asses and actually fixes the things. In case you haven't figured it out, CV's are unique in that the rest of the team generally cannot pull the dead weight of a bad CV, where as a poorly balanced non CV is much easier for the rest of the team to make up for that deficiency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
20 [CYPHR] thepigeonmaster Members 134 posts 12,483 battles Report post #14 Posted January 21, 2017 well we all start as potatoes and hope to be the super unicums but in realety most of us end up some where in the center mass as for win rate u can still lose games with a kraken behinde your name and 50 % of your team still alive if u don't thake the caps its a game and most people play it for fun not ho be the super unicum player 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #15 Posted January 21, 2017 Yes, you are, you are throwing gamer by playing USN carriers, that is a fact, because wargaming has done such a horrible job with CV balance. Fact is, not other ship line throws games as baldy as US CV's. So how about you show some common courtesy to your fellow players and leave the things in coop only until wargaming pulls their heads out of their asses and actually fixes the things. In case you haven't figured it out, CV's are unique in that the rest of the team generally cannot pull the dead weight of a bad CV, where as a poorly balanced non CV is much easier for the rest of the team to make up for that deficiency. Dictating what ships others play is a pretty lousy way to interact with your fellow players. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [K-P-M] Montana_Prussian Members 1,616 posts 18,452 battles Report post #16 Posted January 22, 2017 I'm still waiting on one of these lunatics to define "skill". It's amazingly the most requested adjustment to MM but no one can define it. I am in agreement with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,521 [WOLF7] awiggin Members 12,620 posts Report post #17 Posted January 22, 2017 You realize that if you got rid off all the cannon fodder, this game would look like WOWP? Fact is, this isn't a highly competitive game, a majority of the players don't play regularly, don't learn much about the game. They are here to sail ships and shoot at stuff. If you haven't figured this out by now..... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
16 anonym_0iFlpG1hOlLJ Members 128 posts Report post #18 Posted January 22, 2017 I suck, but I try to get better. I have fun and sometimes I really don't. I try to help my team mates and most of the time a great idea, come to find out was'nt a great idea. I don't team kill and I watch my torps. I take caps, that come to find out my team does'nt want. I try though. See ya'll around the pool. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2 Chemstrike_ Members 90 posts 424 battles Report post #19 Posted January 22, 2017 Low skill players with no desire to improve are killing this game. You can hard carry all the time and still lose. This game needs matchmaking based on player skill or win rate ASAP. Lol me IRL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,322 [-K-] Special_Kay Beta Testers 5,660 posts 19,594 battles Report post #20 Posted January 22, 2017 How about the people that stubbornly play US carriers despite the them all being hilariously UP except Saipan and Langley. Needless to say, I am tired of losing games because idiots dont get the hint, their ship is UP as [edited]and is throwing games because of it. Yes, you are, you are throwing gamer by playing USN carriers, that is a fact, because wargaming has done such a horrible job with CV balance. Fact is, not other ship line throws games as baldy as US CV's. So how about you show some common courtesy to your fellow players and leave the things in coop only until wargaming pulls their heads out of their asses and actually fixes the things. In case you haven't figured it out, CV's are unique in that the rest of the team generally cannot pull the dead weight of a bad CV, where as a poorly balanced non CV is much easier for the rest of the team to make up for that deficiency. All arguments about the validity of playing if you are not a skilled player aside, this is absolutely ridiculous. And a quick look at your CV stats makes me strongly suspect you have personal feelings clouding your objectivity on the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
264 [-K--] wadavid Members 589 posts 15,061 battles Report post #21 Posted January 22, 2017 Wow, elitist, much? God forbid anyone just play a game because they like it. No, no let's all be just like you, constantly unhappy chasing that elusive thing called "a win." Thanks, but no thank you. The player base isn't here to conform to how you perceive things should be. You do know that winning is the literal only objective of every team vs. team game ever, right? Roll dice on the floor of you want to pass the time without caring. But if you choose to play a team game, you're on a team and your job is to help your team win, not derp around and bring aggravation to everyone you get teamed up with. That's not elitism, that's a common-sense understanding of how team games work, and how to not be the worst. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 Tank_Buster_ Alpha Tester 363 posts 4,893 battles Report post #22 Posted January 22, 2017 agreed to many lazy boyz hanging out in the back of the map, they want there Tier 9s & 10s but then they dont want to get hit, i mean cmon you are in a tier 9 or 10 Act accordingly!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #23 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) It is true though. Saipan is about the only USN CV that does well against Hiryu. Both stomp Ranger Essex vs. Taiho is one of the worst matchups possible, because of how inflexible Essux loadout is in comparison to AS Taiho. I especially like how AS Hakuryu can tie up all the bombers on Midway. That's sure fair and balanced. Edited January 22, 2017 by MrDeaf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,882 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,337 posts 13,771 battles Report post #24 Posted January 22, 2017 You do know that winning is the literal only objective of every team vs. team game ever, right? Roll dice on the floor of you want to pass the time without caring. But if you choose to play a team game, you're on a team and your job is to help your team win, not derp around and bring aggravation to everyone you get teamed up with. That's not elitism, that's a common-sense understanding of how team games work, and how to not be the worst. No, it isn't, actually. One day, when you grasp the concepts of competition and fun, we can talk. Until then, please forget how to type. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,666 battles Report post #25 Posted January 22, 2017 (edited) WR does not = skill and there is no magic way to determine 'skill' in the game. So....basically....you're trying to say that someone who wins more is not a better player than someone who wins less often? Please, quit trying to delude yourself into thinking stats don't mean anything just because your stats don't match your overinflated self image. Edited January 22, 2017 by issm 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites