3,040 [GUTS] Mizzerys_Fate [GUTS] Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 8,779 posts 30,822 battles Report post #1 Posted January 18, 2017 So a stealth nerfs of survivability expert. From 400 hp /tier to 350 hp./tier. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,736 gurudennis Beta Testers 5,082 posts 5,575 battles Report post #2 Posted January 18, 2017 Not so stealth? It's been this way since PT2. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520 [-FBS-] saagri Members 2,646 posts 4,290 battles Report post #3 Posted January 18, 2017 I don't think you know the meaning of stealth nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,150 [HINON] RivertheRoyal Privateers 6,266 posts 3,405 battles Report post #4 Posted January 18, 2017 Not a nerf, since the skill was also moved down to a tier three skill, and needed to be adjusted accordingly. It was openly done, and there was no stealth with the change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,366 [-K-] Mesrith Members, Beta Testers 3,105 posts 10,661 battles Report post #5 Posted January 18, 2017 Completely announced, and a reasonable trade-off for costing one less point. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #6 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) Hardly. It provides 12.5% less HP for 25% fewer captain points. You now get more bang for your buck. Edited January 18, 2017 by Kombat_W0MBAT 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #7 Posted January 18, 2017 Hardly. It provides 12.5% less HP for 25% fewer captain points. You now get more bang for your buck. This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,407 Compassghost Supertest Coordinator 7,223 posts 14,454 battles Report post #8 Posted January 18, 2017 https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/pt060-2-electric-boogaloo/ Key Features Commander Skill Updates - Since Part I, we tweaked the Commander Skill tree: Survivability Expert: the skill was moved to Tier 3 (-1). Health points increase was lowered from 400 to 350 per ship tier. Thus, it got more accessible at the cost of slightly reduced efficiency. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,521 [HINON] RipNuN2 Members 14,340 posts Report post #9 Posted January 18, 2017 I do not think that means what you think it means. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
537 [KNTAI] Battlecruiser_Amagi [KNTAI] Members 3,134 posts 9,120 battles Report post #10 Posted January 18, 2017 I do not think that means what you think it means. I do not think you mean what you think you mean. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,337 battles Report post #11 Posted January 18, 2017 So a stealth nerfs of survivability expert. From 400 hp /tier to 350 hp./tier. You use this term, I don't think you understand the meaning of this term. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
186 [AXANR] Suraknar Members 318 posts 4,560 battles Report post #12 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) It was not worth it before, it is even less worth it now. 3500 more HP at tier 10 is peanuts when one shell can do more than double that in Damage.There are far better places to put your points in to. Edited January 19, 2017 by Suraknar 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #13 Posted January 19, 2017 It was not worth it before, it is even less worth it now. 3500 more HP at tier 10 is peanuts when one shell can do more than double that in Damage. There are far better places to put your points in to. It's great for brawling DDs like the Gearing. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,337 battles Report post #14 Posted January 19, 2017 It's great for brawling DDs like the Gearing. So I can last 2 more seconds in a gun duel? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
157 PTX_007_03C Members 800 posts 7,594 battles Report post #15 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Hardly. It provides 12.5% less HP for 25% fewer captain points. You now get more bang for your buck. That's not a good way to calculate SE value. Even though you get more HP per skill point the impact of the skill has went down as the number of times it will keep you alive has lowered. The skill is now cheaper and less valuable. Also the extra point we get from grabbing the new SE is pretty much wasted in DDs since all the skills at tier 1 are useless for the class (and the BFT+SE combo now cost 6 points instead of 5). Edited January 19, 2017 by ShiroDNL 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
488 MackDye ∞ Members 693 posts 18,963 battles Report post #16 Posted January 19, 2017 Nothing stealth about it. You should probably read what they put on the website more often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
312 Moonrider Members 909 posts Report post #17 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) So a stealth nerfs of survivability expert. From 400 hp /tier to 350 hp./tier. Read the patch notes. Not stealth at all. Edited January 19, 2017 by Moonrider Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
157 PTX_007_03C Members 800 posts 7,594 battles Report post #18 Posted January 19, 2017 So I can last 2 more seconds in a gun duel? So you can survive with 300 HP and slam a bunch of torps into something or burn things to death from smoke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 DE529 Members 8 posts 27,049 battles Report post #19 Posted February 5, 2017 It seems at most levels the stealth of the dd is almost nil nowadays!! the new modules have made me stop using dds/ that infinite radio baloney is at the top of the most hated list for me /I know its ''ARCADE'' game but at tier ten its even harder to make even the most simple torp run on a target !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
299 [SBIM1] Battleship_Constitution Beta Testers 761 posts 5,299 battles Report post #20 Posted February 5, 2017 So a stealth nerfs of survivability expert. From 400 hp /tier to 350 hp./tier. looks as if someone never read the patch notes. Been that way since day one on the test server and live..no nerf just ignorance on your part. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
250 [BSL] BearlyHereBear Members 1,241 posts 22,631 battles Report post #21 Posted February 5, 2017 (edited) Hardly. It provides 12.5% less HP for 25% fewer captain points. You now get more bang for your buck. Doesn't the % increase in protection depend on the base HP and the tier of the ship? Edit: nvm, I get what you were writing. Deciding on whether or not it's worth the points depends on the ship. Edited February 5, 2017 by BearlyHereBear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,329 Canadatron Members 5,206 posts 3,461 battles Report post #22 Posted February 5, 2017 It's generally seen as a DD skill considering 350 HP/Tier actually has some meaning measured against their skinny health pool. For classes other than DD it'd be a complete waste. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
