744 Admiral_Ice Beta Testers 2,319 posts 9,297 battles Report post #1 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) I want my level 1 Basic Firing Training back for my BB gameplay and I want it back now! Not tomorrow....not today, NOW! Everything else is a complete and utter waste for BB captains 1. Priority Target = I'm a BB, EVERYONE is shooting at me! I don't need the damn game to tell me this! 2. Preventive Maintenence = BB's turrets are rarely shot out during my gamplay and I usually have 2 or 3 left to continue fighting. Grade A worthless 3. Expert Loader = seriously? I'm a BB, I shoot AP's, I don't have time to switch shells because a dinky DD showed up, I'll just overpen damage them. I never took this skill since alpha days, and I sure as hell aint going to start now! 4. Long Fire Alert = Are you guys high? Again, i'm a BB, I'm going to be long ranged targeted ALL. THE. TIME! I'm very well aware of knowing whos around me and looking at the sky to see long range shells coming at me. I don't need a damn noob alert for this, your insulting me! Edited January 18, 2017 by Admiral_Ice 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,883 [YORHA] JCC45 Members 5,460 posts 12,132 battles Report post #2 Posted January 18, 2017 That ought to do it, alrighty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,329 Canadatron Members 5,206 posts 3,461 battles Report post #3 Posted January 18, 2017 What is it again Battleships are always telling the DD Captains? Adapt and overcome the challenge! 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,085 [WOLF2] TheDreadnought Beta Testers 4,720 posts Report post #4 Posted January 18, 2017 Yeah, it is unfortunate they eliminated any good Tier 1 option for BBs. Now, if preventative maintenance reduced the loss of AA mounts, etc, that would be a useful skill. Otherwise I agree. . . give us back Level 1 BFT! (Or do both and make us choose!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68 DirtyDiggler Members 236 posts 2,361 battles Report post #5 Posted January 18, 2017 I think Priority Target is nice myself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
854 TheStarSlayer Members, Beta Testers 1,591 posts 2,659 battles Report post #6 Posted January 18, 2017 Perhaps double cat fighters doing anti torpedo sweeps and flying CAP? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,102 Goose21891 Members 11,964 posts 6,273 battles Report post #7 Posted January 18, 2017 Perhaps double cat fighters doing anti torpedo sweeps and flying CAP? BB fighters only last for 90s now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
455 [SCCC] FogInvader Members 2,845 posts 11,099 battles Report post #8 Posted January 18, 2017 Perhaps double cat fighters doing anti torpedo sweeps and flying CAP? If you have a plane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 Veasel Members 499 posts 7,185 battles Report post #9 Posted January 18, 2017 Take the Catapult fighter skill and be done with it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,862 RedSeaBear Members 5,454 posts 21,216 battles Report post #10 Posted January 18, 2017 As a Destroyer and Cruiser player, I agree Skill Tree Row 1 is crap. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
75 Veasel Members 499 posts 7,185 battles Report post #11 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) BB fighters only last for 90s now Still really handy at tying bombers up over your AA umbrella. Edited January 18, 2017 by Veasel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,615 [-K-] Edgecase [-K-] Members 6,121 posts 28,566 battles Report post #12 Posted January 18, 2017 If you have a plane That's fair, but how much work was BFT really doing for you with a pre-catfighter battleship anyway? Well, I guess you could call it a Mikasa nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
323 [KOOKS] pyantoryng Alpha Tester 2,869 posts 4,864 battles Report post #13 Posted January 18, 2017 Tier 1 skill...panders for carrier players... Payback? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,373 [INTEL] CapnCappy Members 3,265 posts 6,614 battles Report post #14 Posted January 18, 2017 Take PM and save your AA modules. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
537 [KNTAI] Battlecruiser_Amagi [KNTAI] Members 3,134 posts 9,120 battles Report post #15 Posted January 18, 2017 Take the Catapult fighter skill and be done with it. With BB planes lasting 90 seconds, this is a no brainer. I think this is a troll thread if anything. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
522 [IN3PT] El_Judarino Beta Testers 1,703 posts 6,511 battles Report post #16 Posted January 18, 2017 Priority target + using your brain = knowing when a DD you can't see is getting ready to torp you. It's my new favorite level one skill 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
12,034 [SALVO] ArIskandir Members 17,280 posts 10,485 battles Report post #17 Posted January 18, 2017 Priority target + using your brain = knowing when a DD you can't see is getting ready to torp you. It's my new favorite level one skill we have a winner!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #18 Posted January 18, 2017 I want my level 1 Basic Firing Training back for my BB gameplay and I want it back now! Not tomorrow....not today, NOW! Everything else is a complete and utter waste for BB captains 1. Priority Target = I'm a BB, EVERYONE is shooting at me! I don't need the damn game to tell me this! If that were the case, BBs ignoring other BBs to delete CAs wouldn't be a problem now, would it? Also, pretty sure it's rare for you to be the only BB in the game. And finally, wouldn't it be nice to know if there's a DD on the other side of that island, locked on and waiting for you to come out? 3. Expert Loader = seriously? I'm a BB, I shoot AP's, I don't have time to switch shells because a dinky DD showed up, I'll just overpen damage them. I never took this skill since alpha days, and I sure as hell aint going to start now! What if I told you that, if you could switch ammo in as little as 13 seconds, you WOULD have time to switch shells? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,455 [FOXEH] DoomStomper Beta Testers 3,985 posts 2,373 battles Report post #19 Posted January 18, 2017 What is it again Battleships are always telling the DD Captains? Adapt and overcome the challenge! Priority target + using your brain = knowing when a DD you can't see is getting ready to torp you. It's my new favorite level one skill 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #20 Posted January 18, 2017 Priority target + using your brain = knowing when a DD you can't see is getting ready to torp you. It's my new favorite level one skill And what if you also had Expert Loader? Why, when that DD did appear, you could probably delete him before he launches (assuming an island ambush scenario) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
227 devastator5000 Members 1,719 posts 4,106 battles Report post #21 Posted January 18, 2017 Tier 1 skill...panders for carrier players... Payback? AS both a CV and a BB player yeah, but aside from PT BBs are out of luck on a T1 skill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
744 Admiral_Ice Beta Testers 2,319 posts 9,297 battles Report post #22 Posted January 18, 2017 Take PM and save your AA modules. I don't give a crap about my AA, only guns that matter are my mains. I don't deal with carriers enough to warrant shooting down planes, i'm already turning my ship to avoid torpedos when I see bombers coming my way and dive bombers have never bothered me, I just put the fires out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,260 [SVF] landcollector Members 2,942 posts 2,776 battles Report post #23 Posted January 18, 2017 And what if you also had Expert Loader? Why, when that DD did appear, you could probably delete him before he launches (assuming an island ambush scenario) Expert Loader's utility for BBs, at least from my PoV, is marginal. I've already got 8-12 barrels loaded with shells already, spending another 13-15 seconds to swap shell types and "waste" a prepared salvo seems weird to me. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #24 Posted January 18, 2017 Just a reminder, there is no limit to the range priority target will trigger, or how far you can target with torps. So a Russian DD with 4km torps can target you with x at 50 km and you're targeted by an unseen target. Please use this information responsibly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 _Sp1d3r_ Beta Testers 425 posts 7,912 battles Report post #25 Posted January 18, 2017 I think Priority Target is nice myself Especially if you are in a CA. Can know when its safe to turn and show your broadside lol.. ohh but for BB's, well I guess same idea would work Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
