95 theanhtb Beta Testers 393 posts 3,784 battles Report post #1 Posted January 18, 2017 Normally, 203mm HE shell will have 33mm pen With APHE, it goes up to 44mmShould cruisers, especially high-tiers, get this skill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
264 [-K--] wadavid Members 589 posts 15,083 battles Report post #2 Posted January 18, 2017 Mid-tier DDs that want to be able to pen 25mm BB armor (most bow/stern plating tier VII and below) and 152/155mm high tier CLs that want to be able to pen 32mm BB armor (tiers VIII-X) will benefit. Most of the other ships' HE pen doesn't cross any major boundaries that would net a noticeable enough increase in damage output to justify spending 4 points on the skill. I'm trying it (with DE) on Chapayev and seeing how it goes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
263 [DOW] Roadrider7021 [DOW] Members 1,082 posts 42,253 battles Report post #3 Posted January 18, 2017 Mid-tier DDs that want to be able to pen 25mm BB armor (most bow/stern plating tier VII and below) and 152/155mm high tier CLs that want to be able to pen 32mm BB armor (tiers VIII-X) will benefit. Most of the other ships' HE pen doesn't cross any major boundaries that would net a noticeable enough increase in damage output to justify spending 4 points on the skill. I'm trying it (with DE) on Chapayev and seeing how it goes. That's what I'm thinking as well. Tried it briefly on Iowa to deal with bow tankers and wasn't very impressed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,742 [BGA] Skuggsja [BGA] Alpha Tester 4,396 posts 34,181 battles Report post #4 Posted January 18, 2017 I'm using IFHE on my Mogami with the 155mm guns. Don't qoute me but unless I'm mistaken I do believe I'm getting overall higher damage hits on Battleship superstructures. I'm going to play some more games with her to really get a better idea but it seems that the damage increase is considerable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 28,970 battles Report post #5 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) 203mm CAs should avoid this skill. It won't do you any good. CAs with smaller guns, on the other hand, gain immense benefits. Dmitri Donskoi in particular; she has a higher innate fire chance than most beneficiaries of the skill. Edited January 18, 2017 by TenguBlade 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 Dontlookatthisname Members 58 posts 2,362 battles Report post #6 Posted January 19, 2017 Tried HEAP on the Atlanta and was pleasantly surprised. Surprised a Cleveland around an island and did 21k damage with 62 shell hits. He melted in just a few salvos. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
408 [GC] thehelmsman Alpha Tester 1,120 posts 5,252 battles Report post #7 Posted January 19, 2017 203mm CAs should avoid this skill. It won't do you any good. CAs with smaller guns, on the other hand, gain immense benefits. Dmitri Donskoi in particular; she has a higher innate fire chance than most beneficiaries of the skill. This. Cruisers with 152-180mm guns, absolutely, except for (obviously) the British. Larger than that, not worth. Atlanta.... I'm debating. With IFHE, Atlanta's HE pen goes up to 27.3 which is good enough to tear apart tier 6 and 7 BB, but not 8 or 9. --Helms Share this post Link to post Share on other sites