37 [RNGG] Urandas Members 158 posts 5,358 battles Report post #1 Posted January 18, 2017 Hey guys. This is something that is curious to me. Takao and atago both have a 16 second reload. However the Mogami, Ibuki, furutaka and probably more IJN CA I'm not listing have the same 8 inch 50 cal type 3 mod. E turret with a 15 second reload. Is there a historical or balancing reason they have a second longer reload? I don't think the 2 ships need a second shaved off their reloads but that difference just confuses me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,150 [HINON] RivertheRoyal Privateers 6,266 posts 3,405 battles Report post #2 Posted January 18, 2017 It's balance. After all, Takao class cruisers in WoWs get so many other advantages, that giving them the same rate of fire as the other IJN CA's would be a little unfair. One second may not seem like much, but it can make a fairly large difference overall. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
924 [TSF_1] pewpewpew42 Members 3,301 posts 7,816 battles Report post #3 Posted January 18, 2017 Maybe it's the 20% fire chance my HE shells have on Takao. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,150 [HINON] RivertheRoyal Privateers 6,266 posts 3,405 battles Report post #4 Posted January 18, 2017 Maybe it's the 20% fire chance my HE shells have on Takao. Yeah, but all IJN CA's are infamous for that. It's the fact that the Atago and Takao have the ability to heal, as well as a fairly sizable heath pool all things considered. There's also the torpedo arcs, and the concealment to consider, as well as the speed those ships have. As it is right now, it's so much better than any other tier 8 cruiser that it's not even funny—especially the tech tree ones. This is again mainly due to the ship's ability to heal, giving it a much better survivability than is possible for other equal tier cruisers. The only other ship that has that capability is the Edinburgh, but I consider that as being less survivable due to it's utter lack of armor. The Takao class cruisers have surprisingly good armor, when used correctly. That being said, I should point out that charging a battleship straight on to use your torpedoes in close quarters is not the right way of going about it. It's armor is good against cruiser guns. And, for all these positives, there have to be negatives. This comes in the form of the pitiful AA platform the ship has, and the 16 second reload. That's it. Oh, and I tend to think of the ship's speed as both a positive and negative, since I tend to push the nearest cap, trusting the destroyers to scout it out for me. Except that doesn't happen, since the ship is faster than most DD's when running a speed flag. Long story short, the first one spotted is the first one sunk, especially if it has a citadel. So, yeah, it's a great ship. As long as you don't screw up with positioning. And if the 1 second slower reload is the price, I'm willing to pay it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,284 The_first_harbinger Members 3,681 posts 8,111 battles Report post #5 Posted January 18, 2017 Takao and Atago's turret are stupidly fast for an IJN cruiser...It's like having main battery traverse mod installed by default... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #6 Posted January 18, 2017 Takao and Atago's turret are stupidly fast for an IJN cruiser...It's like having main battery traverse mod installed by default... This, and the fact that she gets DRP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
37 [RNGG] Urandas Members 158 posts 5,358 battles Report post #7 Posted January 18, 2017 It's balance. After all, Takao class cruisers in WoWs get so many other advantages, that giving them the same rate of fire as the other IJN CA's would be a little unfair. One second may not seem like much, but it can make a fairly large difference overall. I mean, besides a small boost to HP and a heal sure. However in most other regards they're the same. Mogami even has more armor. They both have 102mm over the citadel and mogami has 140mm over the magazines compaired too Atago's 127mm. I guess it is an Ok trade for a heal, IDK. My OCD just screams. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #8 Posted January 18, 2017 I mean, besides a small boost to HP and a heal sure. However in most other regards they're the same. Mogami even has more armor. They both have 102mm over the citadel and mogami has 140mm over the magazines compaired too Atago's 127mm. I guess it is an Ok trade for a heal, IDK. My OCD just screams. She also has forward firing torpedoes, and a faster turret traverse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites