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So, wargaming has poked at the idea, or is it fact?, that a i guess you would call it "sub branch" will  come to USN battleships and cruisers at some point, now im not sure what ships they would bring in but with cruisers im hoping they bring in the Brooklyn- class, basically Americas version of the A-hull Mogami thats already in game with 5 triple guns, now people have already been making assumptions about the battleship sub branch and from what ive seen, it seems like a pretty good assumption with what ships could be put in the sub branch, but something that would amaze me greatly would be if the Tillman battleships were brought in, now some of you may not know what the Tillmans are, so allow me to explain the best i can, these ships were designed in the 1910's and were literally "super-dreadnoughts" all of them having either 16 or 18 inch guns, some going absolutely crazy in design, one having 24 16 inch guns in 4 6 gunned turrets, and another, my personal favorite, the Tillman IV-2, having 15 18 inch guns in 5 triple turrets, eat your heart out Yamato, but sadly, the Washington Naval Treaty stopped these amazing ships from being made and them being implemented in the game, while amzing, they would obviously be too OP for even teir 10 games, maybe they could be like the Flint, gotta do some crazy stuff to get it lol

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_battleship  < for those interested, here is a page dedicated to the Tillman- class super dreadnoughts that could have been  

 

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So, wargaming has poked at the idea, or is it fact?, that a i guess you would call it "sub branch" will  come to USN battleships and cruisers at some point, now im not sure what ships they would bring in but with cruisers im hoping they bring in the Brooklyn- class, basically Americas version of the A-hull Mogami thats already in game with 5 triple guns, now people have already been making assumptions about the battleship sub branch and from what ive seen, it seems like a pretty good assumption with what ships could be put in the sub branch, but something that would amaze me greatly would be if the Tillman battleships were brought in, now some of you may not know what the Tillmans are, so allow me to explain the best i can, these ships were designed in the 1910's and were literally "super-dreadnoughts" all of them having either 16 or 18 inch guns, some going absolutely crazy in design, one having 24 16 inch guns in 4 6 gunned turrets, and another, my personal favorite, the Tillman IV-2, having 15 18 inch guns in 5 triple turrets, eat your heart out Yamato, but sadly, the Washington Naval Treaty stopped these amazing ships from being made

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximum_battleship  < for those interested, here is a page dedicated to the Tillman- class super dreadnoughts that could have been  

 

 

 

Haha. I'm not sure what about world war 2 naval warfare scenarios captures my attention so damn much but I hope WG explores as many experimental and what-if ship-types as possible lol.

 

That's super crazy.

 

One can dream.

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No thanks. Other nations come first, then we can do pipe dream, napkin drawing, super impractical USN BBs.

 

oh i know other nations will be first, just saying that WG has hinted that sub branches may come at some point, maybe not in the near future but at some point
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Haha. I'm not sure what about world war 2 naval warfare scenarios captures my attention so damn much but I hope WG explores as many experimental and what-if ship-types as possible lol.

 

That's super crazy.

 

One can dream.

 

Beautiful, yet powerful ships, thats what got me interested, when i first visited the USS North Carolina, my home state ship, i feel in love with battleships, the movie "Battleship" just made my love more powerful
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Beautiful, yet powerful ships, thats what got me interested, when i first visited the USS North Carolina, my home state ship, i feel in love with battleships, the movie "Battleship" just made my love more powerful

 

Yeah, the Showboat is a beautiful lady, that said I sure hope your state can come up with the funds to get rid of the cancer her poor turrets are showing. :(

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God I hope not... at least not before British, French and Italians.

 

oh dont worry, theyll most likely put in new nations before new USN branches, you dont need to worry bud, im willing to bet that the 50 ships that are planned for this year may just be in the 3 nations you have spoken of

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Yeah, the Showboat is a beautiful lady, that said I sure hope your state can come up with the funds to get rid of the cancer her poor turrets are showing. :(

 

Wait, somethings wrong with her turrets? whats wrong with her?

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I really wish we could get more US Navy ships they are my favorites through and through. Also really want more British Royal Navy ships. I think they should maybe consider developing branches a bit differently and say if you do research a New Mexico and fully unlock all her upgrades you can move on to Colorado or you can unlock Tennessee at the same tier. I think that would be a simple easy and quick way to allow them to add ships as they are ready instead of having to do entire branches at once before a ship can be released.

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Wasn't there a rumor Japan was going to have a BB split later this year? Ending it off at tier X with either Musashi or Shinano (or a Shinano-subclass).

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I really wish we could get more US Navy ships they are my favorites through and through. Also really want more British Royal Navy ships. I think they should maybe consider developing branches a bit differently and say if you do research a New Mexico and fully unlock all her upgrades you can move on to Colorado or you can unlock Tennessee at the same tier. I think that would be a simple easy and quick way to allow them to add ships as they are ready instead of having to do entire branches at once before a ship can be released.

 

Well, Notser said that WG likes bringing new premium about every 2 weeks, his words not mine, but theyll get to the new branches eventually, maybe not this  year, maybe not next year, but itll come in due time 

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No thanks. Other nations come first, then we can do pipe dream, napkin drawing, super impractical USN BBs.

 

You mean like all the pipe dream, napkin drawing IJN, KM and Russian ships we have?

 

That all magically outperform the actually built and used ships?

 

I'm good for having a Tillman class with 15 18" guns, it's certainly more realistic than the Zao.  The USN could have actually built and deployed something like that.

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Wasn't there a rumor Japan was going to have a BB split later this year? Ending it off at tier X with either Musashi or Shinano (or a Shinano-subclass).

 

haven't heard that rumor going around, must be a new fresh rumor, mmmm tasty rumors lol

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You mean like all the pipe dream, napkin drawing IJN, KM and Russian ships we have?

 

That all magically outperform the actually built and used ships?

 

I'm good for having a Tillman class with 15 18" guns, it's certainly more realistic than the Zao.  The USN could have actually built and deployed something like that.

yeah but the Washington Naval Treaty stopped it from happening

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No thanks. Other nations come first, then we can do pipe dream, napkin drawing, super impractical USN BBs.

 

as opposed to pipe dream, napkin drawing, super impractical RUSSIAN Battleships?

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as opposed to pipe dream, napkin drawing, super impractical RUSSIAN Battleships?

 

Yeah, i looked it up the other day, Russia didnt have much in the way of battleships, most were from WW1 or later

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No thanks. Other nations come first, then we can do pipe dream, napkin drawing, super impractical USN BBs.

 

Kind of like all the science fiction ships we already have ingame?

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yeah but the Washington Naval Treaty stopped it from happening

 

Right, but that's less of a reason to keep it out of the game than the lack of technical ability that kept the IJN and Russian ships from ever being produced.  On par with the political and resource problems that put a stop to the KM doing much past the Bismarck.

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No thanks. Other nations come first, then we can do pipe dream, napkin drawing, super impractical USN BBs.

 

I dont like paper ships, but the US seriously got crapped on when the game released. There's nothing special about them, not even AA, because WG destroyed carriers.

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Right, but that's less of a reason to keep it out of the game than the lack of technical ability that kept the IJN and Russian ships from ever being produced.  On par with the political and resource problems that put a stop to the KM doing much past the Bismarck.

 

true, but with 15 18 inch guns even if its top speed was 25 knots the Tillman IV-2 would be swarmed with " its too OP" complainants, even at teir 10 where, if it was put in, it would most likely be
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true, but with 15 18 inch guns even if its top speed was 25 knots the Tillman IV-2 would be swarmed with " its too OP" complainants, even at teir 10 where, if it was put in, it would most likely be

 

Would make for nice Hakuryu and Midway bait though. CV players would have a field day with a giant tier x dreadnought.
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The way I see it, the implementation of lines will probably be something like this::hmm:

 

2017

 

Russian DD split

 

French cruisers

 

French BBs

 

USN CA/CL split

 

2018

 

CV revamp/ UK CVs added

 

Italy Cruisers

 

UK DDs

 

USN 2nd BB line (pudget sound upgrade ships, tier X could be the USS Kentucky but with different stats)

 

2019

 

Italy BBs

 

Spanish CL/CAs

 

Austro-Hungery CL/CAs

 

RU & UK BBs

 

2020

 

Austro-Hungery BB/BC

 

German/UK Battle cruisers

 

French DDs

 

Assorted South American navies ships added as premiums

 

2021

 

Italy DDs

 

2nd USN DD lines comprised of DEs (Destroyer escorts)

 

2nd line for UK DDs (again DEs and maybe some from the u-boat hunter series)

 

Spanish BBs/ DDs

 

 

2022

 

Swedish Navy units?

 

2nd IJN BB line/ IJN BC line

 

 

keep in mind this is just an assumption! but If I were WG and wanted to keep the hype alive this is how I'd probably implement the new lines.:read_fish:

 

 

 

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The way I see it, the implementation of lines will probably be something like this::hmm:

 

2017

 

Russian DD split

 

French cruisers

 

French BBs

 

USN CA/CL split

 

2018

 

CV revamp/ UK CVs added

 

Italy Cruisers

 

UK DDs

 

USN 2nd BB line (pudget sound upgrade ships, tier X could be the USS Kentucky but with different stats)

 

2019

 

Italy BBs

 

Spanish CL/CAs

 

Austro-Hungery CL/CAs

 

RU & UK BBs

 

2020

 

Austro-Hungery BB/BC

 

German/UK Battle cruisers

 

French DDs

 

Assorted South American navies ships added as premiums

 

2021

 

Italy DDs

 

2nd USN DD lines comprised of DEs (Destroyer escorts)

 

2nd line for UK DDs (again DEs and maybe some from the u-boat hunter series)

 

Spanish BBs/ DDs

 

keep in mind this is just an assumption! but If I were WG and wanted to keep the hype alive this is how I'd probably implement the new lines.:read_fish:

 

 

 

 

iEarlGrey poked that WG may be putting the Britsh bbs in game this year, but again, he just poked at this thought, good ideas though for how thing may go
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Tillmans are unlikely to show up, at least not without some reduction in gun numbers; and definitely nothing with more than 9x 18" at most or 12x 16".

 

 

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