Inertia Fuse for HE Shells (New Skill) for secondary builds battleships

[Atom_Alchemist]

 

Is Inertia Fuse for HE Shells a good choice for secondary build battleships to increase the direct damage of their secondary's?

 

[saagri]

Is Inertia Fuse for HE Shells a good choice for secondary build battleships to increase the direct damage of their secondary's?

 

Seems like it.

 

105mm's should lolpen DD's.

127mm's should lolpen cruisers? Don't remember cruiser armor off the top of my head. 

150mm's should lolpen most BB's bow. 

[Ace_04]

Doesn't it only affect the main armament?

[saagri]

Doesn't it only affect the main armament?

 

From patch note:

Increases the armor penetration capacity of HE shells fired from both main and secondary battery guns, at the expense of decreasing the probability of setting the enemy ship on fire.

[pyantoryng]

I did try to check that out with Bismarck on test (picked IFHE over AFT so there is manual secondary skill)...chance of going into secondary range was pretty low there...

 

When it did get to work, it barely scratched the target...

[Flametz]

Funny thing about German caliber/4 HE penetration rule is that their secondaries are affected too, only if its a 128mm and 150mm however (this includes the Roon, oddly enough)

But the 105mm gets stuck with the standard caliber/6 rule

 

What this entails is that a Gneisenau using 128mm secondary build and HEAP could potentially melt a bow-forward Iowa faster than a Bismarck can. (31mm base HE pen, boosted to 38.75+ on HEAP)

[LegoGenius16]

Funny thing about German caliber/4 HE penetration rule is that their secondaries are affected too, only if its a 128mm and 150mm however (this includes the Roon, oddly enough)

But the 105mm gets stuck with the standard caliber/6 rule

 

What this entails is that a Gneisenau using 128mm secondary build and HEAP could potentially melt a bow-forward Iowa faster than a Bismarck can. (31mm base HE pen, boosted to 38.75+ on HEAP)

 

[pyantoryng]

The problem is, will those batteries survive for long in actual combat...

[Flametz]

The problem is, will those batteries survive for long in actual combat...

 

50mm thick 128mm secondary gun turrets make them immune to damage from HE of under 300mm caliber (unless it's German BB like Scharnhorst 283mm or larger, then kiss them goodbye). 

AP is... Kinda sketchy since I've seen them survive an 18" AP shell to the face.

 

Also, 128mm secondaries can be found on the tier 9/10 German BBs IIRC (which get more of them).

[Submarine_Wahoo]

Even on other battleships, I do not frequently experience secondary guns getting permanently knocked out. I would presume the ones that are not fully enclosed are more vulnerable due to HE splash damage disabling them from where they are not protected, so that the subsequent shot would deal the final blow.

[K538]

Even on other battleships, I do not frequently experience secondary guns getting permanently knocked out. I would presume the ones that are not fully enclosed are more vulnerable due to HE splash damage disabling them from where they are not protected, so that the subsequent shot would deal the final blow.

 

Yeah secondaries are a lot less likely to get taken out than AA.  They're not immune, but it's certainly not a problem I worry about unless I'm already more or less screwed due to being overwhelmed anyway.

[SergeantHop]

Even on other battleships, I do not frequently experience secondary guns getting permanently knocked out. I would presume the ones that are not fully enclosed are more vulnerable due to HE splash damage disabling them from where they are not protected, so that the subsequent shot would deal the final blow.

 

I was able to kill four Iowa secondary guns with my Atlanta the other night in one short altercation using HE They're certainly not immune.

 

Regardless though, this is neat. I hadn't even considered using IFHE on my German BBs. I'm thinking this will be the way to go for me now.

[pyantoryng]

Funny thing about German caliber/4 HE penetration rule is that their secondaries are affected too, only if its a 128mm and 150mm however (this includes the Roon, oddly enough)

But the 105mm gets stuck with the standard caliber/6 rule

 

What this entails is that a Gneisenau using 128mm secondary build and HEAP could potentially melt a bow-forward Iowa faster than a Bismarck can. (31mm base HE pen, boosted to 38.75+ on HEAP)

 

The Bismarck has a significant amount of secondaries in 105mm...which seems to explain why it wasn't so effective when I tried it...

[reaper_swpz]

So the solution to bow on BB will be... BB secondaries.

 

Interesting.

[TsundereMusashi]

Wait so does this skill only increase the pen of HE shells and not AP shells?

[pyantoryng]

Wait so does this skill only increase the pen of HE shells and not AP shells?

 

IFHE: Inertia Fuze for HE Shells...of course it's for HE shells only.

 

[Creepershark77]

Your sacrificing AFT or Manual Secondaries in order to use it.

[SergeantHop]

Your sacrificing AFT or Manual Secondaries in order to use it.

 

Uh, no? 4+4+4+3+2+1 is 18. You can have all three and a point left over.

[Creepershark77]

 

Uh, no? 4+4+4+3+2+1 is 18. You can have all three and a point left over.

 

What about BFT?

[pyantoryng]

 

What about BFT?

 

BFT takes the 3 slot.

 

1 (whatever)+2 (whatever)+3 (BFT)+4 (Manual Sec)+4 (AFT)+4 (IFHE)= 18

[Zarroc1]

BFT isn't necessarily a must. The reload is reduction is nice but there are so many choices now. If you pick IFHE, the 3 point slot could be super intendent (extra heals, hydro and planes are always nice), vigilance (brings your hydro torp spotting back to pre 0.6 range), or DE even to offset some the reduced fire chance of IFHE.

 

Also, not going IFHE you could get fire prevention which is super useful if you're an aggressive BB driver.

 

So there's no really 1 build anymore for even secondaries. Kind of sad actually since before you had the perfect full secondary build to work towards and now there isn't any perfect build. Oh well though.