1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #1 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) So my T5 Omaha is crap, completely unplayable. Now even though the USN line is getting a reboot for cruisers, but I doubt Omaha is going to be fixed soon because WG doesn't care about Tier 5 because why would they care about the smaller ships? As great as WG is, they do have a tenancy to be [edited]to the lower tiers. Regardless, the point is that I am looking for a new line. Does anyone have any suggestions for something? Because this Omaha is not cutting the mustard for me learning how to play, or getting my Win Rate up. Edited January 13, 2017 by Luke_Skywalker01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
186 [WOLF7] ThreeLineRifle Members 755 posts 23,853 battles Report post #2 Posted January 13, 2017 Try using it like an Atlanta? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #3 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Moderated by Volier_Zcit What the hell. How is that helpful? Try using it like an Atlanta? I don't have one, so I wouldn't know how to use it. Nope, I am done with Omaha. I need to switch. Edited January 14, 2017 by Volier_Zcit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
60 PyRo_MaNiaC Members 120 posts 2,499 battles Report post #4 Posted January 13, 2017 Do you have replays of your current battles so I can give you tips? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,523 battles Report post #5 Posted January 13, 2017 seems you may not be playing it right. Granted, it's no world beater, but you can still do well in it if you play correctly. there isn't a 'one way to play them all' method. each ship will play differently from every other ship in a line even if they are in the same one. I think you should keep at it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #6 Posted January 13, 2017 Do you have replays of your current battles so I can give you tips? I don't have that set up. I'm what you would say a potato aspiring to be a competitive player but can't because all the cool ships I want to use in any said game are crap. And there are no tips to give for someone using [edited]equipment, my gameplay will improve if I can try to switch. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
933 Freecloud Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 6,298 posts 6,924 battles Report post #7 Posted January 13, 2017 Skip the Omaha via free EXP and move to the Cleveland? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
60 PyRo_MaNiaC Members 120 posts 2,499 battles Report post #8 Posted January 13, 2017 I don't have that set up. I'm what you would say a potato aspiring to be a competitive player but can't because all the cool ships I want to use in any said game are crap. And there are no tips to give for someone using [edited]equipment, my gameplay will improve if I can try to switch. Ok, no problem. How would you suggest that I give you guidance? Recommend another Tier 5? Give you my personal favorite lines in game? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
933 Freecloud Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 6,298 posts 6,924 battles Report post #9 Posted January 13, 2017 Ok, no problem. How would you suggest that I give you guidance? Recommend another Tier 5? Give you my personal favorite lines in game? Aye! I think Kirov is kinda fun, especially when compared to the Omaha . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #10 Posted January 13, 2017 The IJN Cruisers were a good start for me. In fact I haven't played any USN ship at the beginning. But be ready to change your playstyle at T5. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
133 [NFE] jeffreywalker74656 Beta Testers 403 posts 17,129 battles Report post #11 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) So my T5 Omaha is crap, completely unplayable. Now even though the USN line is getting a reboot for cruisers, but I doubt Omaha is going to be fixed soon because WG doesn't care about Tier 5 because why would they care about the smaller ships? As great as WG is, they do have a tenancy to be [edited]to the lower tiers. Regardless, the point is that I am looking for a new line. Does anyone have any suggestions for something? Because this Omaha is not cutting the mustard for me learning how to play, or getting my Win Rate up. When using Omaha its best to keep your bow on to most targets. Using her good turning ability turn slightly back and forth to get the port and starboard casemate guns a chance to fire while the other reloads. Bow on she is far far less vulnerable and using those style tactics can actually be a solid vessel. Edited January 13, 2017 by jeffreywalker74656 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,523 battles Report post #12 Posted January 13, 2017 OP...have you considered, if it's in the budget getting a preemie T5? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #13 Posted January 13, 2017 Skip the Omaha via free EXP and move to the Cleveland? 35.8k free xp, plus and unresearched hull c? no, that is to expensive. Ok, no problem. How would you suggest that I give you guidance? Recommend another Tier 5? Give you my personal favorite lines in game? yes, recommend another line all together. im not trying to be abrasive, but i am so fed up with my ship being made of glass compared to EVERY OTHER CRUISER. I honestly feel like I am being penalized for playing an Omaha because of the way it is set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
133 [NFE] jeffreywalker74656 Beta Testers 403 posts 17,129 battles Report post #14 Posted January 13, 2017 I gave you some advice to help you OP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 [SWL] dvang Beta Testers 63 posts 6,327 battles Report post #15 Posted January 13, 2017 Honestly, I think the Omaha is one of the better tier 5 cruisers. IJN - Furutaka: Pretty lackluster in every way except that it has 10km torpedoes. USSR - Kirov = Ultra squishy, but not too bad for speed. GER - Konigsberg - Can be decent. Not as squishy as the Kirov or Furutaka and has some good rear guns and range. Kiting opponent is viable. UK - Emerald = No. Just No. Worst tier 5 cruiser. So, yeah, other than maybe the Konigsberg, the Omaha is just about the best tier 5 cruiser that you'll find. It has lots of guns, good range, reasonable durability (for a tier 5 cruiser) good speed and maneuverability ... What problems are you having with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,523 battles Report post #16 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 35.8k free xp, plus and unresearched hull c? no, that is to expensive. yes, recommend another line all together. im not trying to be abrasive, but i am so fed up with my ship being made of glass compared to EVERY OTHER CRUISER. I honestly feel like I am being penalized for playing an Omaha because of the way it is set up. Another cruiser line or any line? IJN cruisers / UK Cruisers, german BBs, maybe the dd's i haven't tried them yet myself, but they look neat. USN Dd's. UK cruisers are fun and unique without HE and the AP puts a hurting on DD's. But they're really squishy, so if you don't like the omaha... Edited January 13, 2017 by scruffycavetroll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #17 Posted January 13, 2017 OP...have you considered, if it's in the budget getting a preemie T5? I baught a $20 gift card for the game, but its retarded how I cant get premium store ships in the tech tree. I am currently saving up for Texas because god forbid I could wait for Arizona in the tech tree, because that is never going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
10 [SWL] dvang Beta Testers 63 posts 6,327 battles Report post #18 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) 35.8k free xp, plus and unresearched hull c? no, that is to expensive. yes, recommend another line all together. im not trying to be abrasive, but i am so fed up with my ship being made of glass compared to EVERY OTHER CRUISER. I honestly feel like I am being penalized for playing an Omaha because of the way it is set up. ALL tier 5 cruisers are pretty much glass. If you think that the Omaha is more fragile than the others, you are sadly mistaken. There is no non-premium tier 5 that is durable, and most of them are even more fragile than the Omaha. That said, I'll recommend the German line for you. The Konigsberg tends to have good survivability due to its excellent range and having two guns at the rear, so you can easily stay at range/flee and still shoot reasonably well. I will point out that if you are having problems with playing 'glass cannons' you pretty much want to avoid playing a cruiser all together. Almost all cruisers are extremely squishy. There are a few here and there that manage to get reasonable armor (Zao, for example) ... but they are pretty few and far between, and you'll need to grind some squishy ships to get to those. Edited January 13, 2017 by dvang 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
99 karmajay Members 380 posts 9,963 battles Report post #19 Posted January 13, 2017 I think you need to get used to it. Almost all cruisers after T5 start to get real brittle. You really have to play smart with cruisers and understand that any hit could take half your health away no matter how good you are playing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,094 [LRM] AphelionMarauder [LRM] Members 3,004 posts 13,225 battles Report post #20 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Honestly, I think the Omaha is one of the better tier 5 cruisers. IJN - Furutaka: Pretty lackluster in every way except that it has 10km torpedoes. USSR - Kirov = Ultra squishy, but not too bad for speed. GER - Konigsberg - Can be decent. Not as squishy as the Kirov or Furutaka and has some good rear guns and range. Kiting opponent is viable. UK - Emerald = No. Just No. Worst tier 5 cruiser. So, yeah, other than maybe the Konigsberg, the Omaha is just about the best tier 5 cruiser that you'll find. It has lots of guns, good range, reasonable durability (for a tier 5 cruiser) good speed and maneuverability ... What problems are you having with it? In responce to scruffycavetroll (to lazy to quote) ANY SHIP LINE Edited January 13, 2017 by Luke_Skywalker01 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
478 [BHSN] scruffycavetroll Members 2,564 posts 4,523 battles Report post #21 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) I baught a $20 gift card for the game, but its retarded how I cant get premium store ships in the tech tree. I am currently saving up for Texas because god forbid I could wait for Arizona in the tech tree, because that is never going to happen. AZ will make its way to the tree, will take some time though. Getting it in the shop or in game is essentially the same thing, $$ still being spent, although one is getting dubloons. In all honesty though, it just seems like you're having a hard time adapting to it. When it was mentioned to 'play like the atlanta', basically the USN is known to have high shell arcs, this means you can be behind islands and lob shells over...that's what you should be doing...keeping your distance and keeping cover between you and targets and lob shells over islands. As for the ANY LINE...I suggested above, just keep in mind, if you like cruisers, they're generally squishy, and if you show broadside a lot, you are playing them wrong....although it's understandably unavoidable at times. IJN: Crusiers, BB's, Carriers USN: BB's, DD's German: BB's haven't tried DD's yet, and cruisers are fun. UK..only the one line. Every line is going to have some quirk you need to learn to contend with and each ship will also have their own on top of that. Edited January 13, 2017 by scruffycavetroll Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
715 Gomez_Adams Members 2,246 posts 2,562 battles Report post #22 Posted January 13, 2017 So my T5 Omaha is crap, completely unplayable. Odd. I don't have that problem. In only a handful of games it's already proven to be very, very good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
896 Deputy276 Members 2,462 posts 7,179 battles Report post #23 Posted January 13, 2017 (edited) Moderated by Volier_Zcit I have my autographed copy!!! I think, and it's just my opinion, that WG has some ships that are more suitable for PvE play and others that can do both. I have all 3 incarnations of the Omaha (Omaha, Murmansk, and Marblehead) and all three of them are excellent in PvE. Maybe the OP should try them in PvE and see if he improves with them there? If he does, then he might want to switch ships. If he doesn't, then maybe the ship isn't the problem. Edited January 14, 2017 by Volier_Zcit 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93 [WOLF2] khan1670 Members 471 posts 12,729 battles Report post #24 Posted January 13, 2017 You only have 108 battles and 9 in the Omaha. You are still in the early learning stages of the game. Don't panic, learn the game and things will improve over time. Things are slightly more complicated than just point and shoot. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
60 PyRo_MaNiaC Members 120 posts 2,499 battles Report post #25 Posted January 13, 2017 yes, recommend another line all together. im not trying to be abrasive, but i am so fed up with my ship being made of glass compared to EVERY OTHER CRUISER. I honestly feel like I am being penalized for playing an Omaha because of the way it is set up. In my opinion, cruisers are the most difficult class to play in the game (I've never played a Carrier, so cannot comment). You get extremely punished for mistakes, such as showing broadside. If I were you, I would start playing battleships, the Germans specifically. Compared to the USN and IJN lines, these ships outclass their counterparts in my opinion. They are very forgiving, especially for newer players because they are very difficult to citadel, if at all. The Nassau, Kaiser and Konig are some awesome ships. I've kept each of them in my port. The line only really struggles at the Tier 6 Bayern, which I skipped half way through because I couldn't stand the slow speed with the shell dispersion. Remember that showing your broadside in almost any ship class is going to net you some damage from the enemy. And also note that the German BBs have some what hit or miss shell dispersion, but don't let that detour you from playing them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
