55 Avrova1904 Members 342 posts 6,004 battles Report post #1 Posted January 7, 2017 I was thinking about starting with british cruisers but yesterday I was in my Bismarck, only 1 or 2 minutes after starting a new battle, I had the chance to shot to an enemy Edinburgh so I did it and I destroyed this ship in a single salvo, 31,800 HP. I am not even good at aiming and I did almost the same to a lot of Leanders that has become my favourite cruiser for easy citadels. Seriously, I am not good at aiming and I am not able to do the same with japanese cruisers (I only did the same with an Atago), hardly ever with USN cruisers. The only british ship I own right now is the Battleship Warspite. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,613 Super_Dreadnought Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters, Beta Testers 14,000 posts 5,814 battles Report post #2 Posted January 7, 2017 Any t8 cruiser can be 1-shot by a t8 battleship. What you did was nothing out of the ordinary. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
963 [PLPT] SergeantHop Members 4,435 posts 6,599 battles Report post #3 Posted January 7, 2017 I was thinking about starting with british cruisers but yesterday I was in my Bismarck, only 1 or 2 minutes after starting a new battle, I had the chance to shot to an enemy Edinburgh so I did it and I destroyed this ship in a single salvo, 31,800 HP. I am not even good at aiming and I did almost the same to a lot of Leanders that has become my favourite cruiser for easy citadels. Seriously, I am not good at aiming and I am not able to do the same with japanese cruisers (I only did the same with an Atago), hardly ever with USN cruisers. The only british ship I own right now is the Battleship Warspite. In that instance, it was really more the fault of the driver than the ship. Any cruiser at tier 8, or any tier, really, can be killed from a single salvo from a battleship. I see it all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
659 [SPTR] Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Chokai Beta Testers 15,667 posts 4,271 battles Report post #4 Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) British CLs are alot like USN DDs with a Citadel but more dakka. Basically, they are paper, but they have the ability to put out alot of hurt... so long as the enemy doesn't angle well. They average high damage, have torps, have low detectibility, and even smoke. One shotting isn't surprising either. Any cruiser is paper, but RN CL's even more so. But an Atago, Mogami, New Orleans, or Hipper in the same instance could have easily been one shotted as well. Edited January 7, 2017 by Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Chokai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
55 Avrova1904 Members 342 posts 6,004 battles Report post #5 Posted January 7, 2017 In that instance, it was really more the fault of the driver than the ship. Any cruiser at tier 8, or any tier, really, can be killed from a single salvo from a battleship. I see it all the time. So then british captains in North America server suck so much Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
659 [SPTR] Fog_Heavy_Cruiser_Chokai Beta Testers 15,667 posts 4,271 battles Report post #6 Posted January 7, 2017 So then british captains in North America server suck so much They have the highest averages of any cruiser line last time I checked. May have dropped by now though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,744 goldeagle1123 Members 5,417 posts 3,213 battles Report post #7 Posted January 7, 2017 Only place the Brits are a joke in this game is tier 2-5. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
922 [TSF_1] pewpewpew42 Members 3,301 posts 7,732 battles Report post #8 Posted January 7, 2017 Treat them like a DD with heal, hydro and a citadel. If you're good in a DD, you'll like them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
922 [HINON] giovybez Members 3,266 posts 27,586 battles Report post #9 Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) and whenever you are shooting at an angled ship, which is often. A tier 5 german DD bouncing Fiji shells with his bow armor had me like Edited January 7, 2017 by giovybez 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,726 [-KIA-] ValkyrWarframe Members 5,189 posts 13,707 battles Report post #10 Posted January 7, 2017 and whenever you are shooting at an angled ship, which is often. A tier 5 german DD bouncing Fiji shells with his bow armor had me like 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,145 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,093 battles Report post #11 Posted January 7, 2017 edinbugh is fine if they are top tiered. much harder when they are low tiered. you have to play real cautious with edinburgh. I am figuring it out but you cannot be aggressive at all. but if you play it right, you can have 100k dmg match and 4 kill like I had yesterday. it really is fiji with slightly better heal/torps with much harder MM and it is very fragile . TBH takao is totally OP and fun ship. Hipper is competent . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
380 [NNG] Edselman Members 1,675 posts 3,039 battles Report post #12 Posted January 7, 2017 Just because they can be killed in one salvo doesn't mean they are bad, I actually think British cruisers are rather annoying when I drive battleships, they spam HE like you wouldn't believe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,477 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 8,214 battles Report post #13 Posted January 7, 2017 Just because they can be killed in one salvo doesn't mean they are bad, I actually think British cruisers are rather annoying when I drive battleships, they spam HE like you wouldn't believe Only the Belfast spams HE, as it's the only RN cruiser that has HE. Not one ship in the tech tree has HE, they all only have AP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,145 [ARGSY] centarina Members 10,326 posts 16,093 battles Report post #14 Posted January 7, 2017 yup only AP. of course I like doing 4-5k dmg per volley using AP against BB's. I can see where neptune or minotaur can be totally nuts with their ROF. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,763 [DEV_X] Skuggsja Alpha Tester 2,463 posts 24,697 battles Report post #15 Posted January 7, 2017 Perth also has HE even though it's common wealth but it's just a Leander. The British cruiser line is a series of light cruisers much like the Russians. They don't have much armor and are easy to kill. Edinburgh is a beast, not as much as Fiji, but it can really bring the pain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,477 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 8,214 battles Report post #16 Posted January 7, 2017 yup only AP. of course I like doing 4-5k dmg per volley using AP against BB's. I can see where neptune or minotaur can be totally nuts with their ROF. I almost feel dirty when playing my Minotaur. She feels that OP lol. But then I get over it and laugh as I melt BBs with my AP Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8,207 [GWG] BrushWolf [GWG] Supertester 27,092 posts 14,687 battles Report post #17 Posted January 7, 2017 Only place the Brits are a joke in this game is tier 2-5. Actually tier 4 and tier 5 are quite good but the tier 5 suffers with a high percentage of tier 7 matches. Tier 2 & 3 I will agree with you but then with very few exceptions 2 & 3 are sucky for every line. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,367 [HINON] tcbaker777 [HINON] Members 8,263 posts 12,121 battles Report post #18 Posted January 7, 2017 Story time my son, you see, British cruisers are NOT meant, under any circumstances,unless the enemy is distracted, to be in close quarters to ships, ESPECIALLY battleships, they're more of a "stealthy hunter" basically a large destroyer to be honest, its not meant to go in at the front its meant to use concealment, ie hiding behind islands, using its smoke, or friendly dd smoke, to be of good use if it goes out front its GOING to die, no ifs ands or buts about it you go out front in a British cruiser you die, they, in my opinion, should be played like a giant destroyer, dont let enemys see you, fire from concealment you have quick-firing guns, if you can get in a smoke screen or behind an island you can shoot over and not be seen you will do some damage, so no, they arent a joke, far from it, it just takes some tactics and teamwork to do good in them, Hope you found this helpful 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
521 [HINON] Admiral_Franz_von_Hipper Members 2,136 posts 5,755 battles Report post #19 Posted January 7, 2017 Just because they can be killed in one salvo doesn't mean they are bad, I actually think British cruisers are rather annoying when I drive battleships, they spam HE like you wouldn't believe Only Perth and Belfast can spam HE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,550 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,256 posts 14,111 battles Report post #20 Posted January 7, 2017 The RN CLs t5+ are great, the Warspite is good, the Campbeltown...well lets not talk about that. So no, the Royal Navy is not the joke of the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,108 [SIM] SkaerKrow Members 5,362 posts 8,824 battles Report post #21 Posted January 7, 2017 British are clearly going to be a challenging line that will reward good players without any hand-holding for newbies. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,594 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 20,968 battles Report post #22 Posted January 7, 2017 (edited) Whoever upvoted the OP needs to be banned from the game until he develops a brain. British CLs from T2-5 are pretty sucky, with Emerald being the least interesting of them all because of the absolute necessity to yolo rush up to T7 battleships to have any hope of doing damage (the guns suck). From Leander onwards, their AP is absurdly powerful and their torpedoes get workable range. Anything that isn't flat bow-on to them is going to be eating massive amounts of penetration damage. Edited January 7, 2017 by TenguBlade 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,477 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 8,214 battles Report post #23 Posted January 7, 2017 Whoever upvoted the OP needs to be banned from the game until he develops a brain. I second this motion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
110 [BLEP] aradragoon Alpha Tester, In AlfaTesters 585 posts 5,098 battles Report post #24 Posted January 7, 2017 Story time my son, you see, British cruisers are NOT meant, under any circumstances,unless the enemy is distracted, to be in close quarters to ships, ESPECIALLY battleships, they're more of a "stealthy hunter" basically a large destroyer to be honest, its not meant to go in at the front its meant to use concealment, ie hiding behind islands, using its smoke, or friendly dd smoke, to be of good use if it goes out front its GOING to die, no ifs ands or buts about it you go out front in a British cruiser you die, they, in my opinion, should be played like a giant destroyer, dont let enemys see you, fire from concealment you have quick-firing guns, if you can get in a smoke screen or behind an island you can shoot over and not be seen you will do some damage, so no, they arent a joke, far from it, it just takes some tactics and teamwork to do good in them, Hope you found this helpful Shoot, the mino is good close quarters. That 3 second reload at about 8km or less hitting the upper belt of a BB will melt it. They were doing 4 - 5k damage per salvo every 3ish seconds. All in all It feels like T6 - T9 British Cls play like you describe though and with all their gimmicks they seem to do well. (Higher skill floor to be fair but also a high skill ceiling) Off topic the T10 British CL feels really over powered. Almost certainly needs a nerf. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,477 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 8,214 battles Report post #25 Posted January 7, 2017 Shoot, the mino is good close quarters. That 3 second reload at about 8km or less hitting the upper belt of a BB will melt it. They were doing 4 - 5k damage per salvo every 3ish seconds. All in all It feels like T6 - T9 British Cls play like you describe though and with all their gimmicks they seem to do well. (Higher skill floor to be fair but also a high skill ceiling) Off topic the T10 British CL feels really over powered. Almost certainly needs a nerf. Do not ever talk about giving my Minotaur a nerf! Those are fighting words! Not having HE is nerf enough lol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites