Why all the hate for the German DD line?

[Lensar]

I've been working up the German DD line after taking a good 9 month or so break from 'Ships. I'm only up to T8 right, but I just don't understand why so many people feel it's a terrible line.

 

Yes, there's tons of radar/hydro and it's bad for the game overall, but the German DD line seems well designed for that. I get that you can't really stealth fire, but I don't understand why you'd think you'd need to; I've never been a fan of inviso-firing as it just seemed silly and cheap. (smoke firing is another story, but do so at your own risk!)

 

I got super lucky in this match, and had good CA/BB support, but I've been having a tremendous amount of success with the entire German DD line.

 

 

 

So what gives? Why all the complaints and hatred towards this line? As I worked my way up to T8, I keep waiting for it to start getting bad,  but it hasn't. Is it just the T9/10 German DDs that are extremely under-powered?

 

 

[QuantumEntropy]

You just had a lucky game , your overal stats of them meh

They aren't great but they aren't bad

 

As i just made a topic TL;DR'ing them all

People hate what they don't understand

 

Feel free to visit

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/109967-german-dds/page__pid__2681155#entry2681155

 

I wish i had so many windows lickers drive into my torps, usually they are on my team

[Lensar]

 

I don't claim to be amazing, I'm still way out of practice and don't even know what half the ships are these days. WTH is a Minataur? And a Neptune?? What is this weirdness?

 

But still, my stats aren't terrible, given the very small sample sizes:

 

 

 

And look at German DDs overall. They seem to be performing just fine.

 

 

 

Just seems bizarre that people are complaining non-stop about them.

[Marine_Recon_]

Well, I think its because Wargaming NERFED the line at release! All the testers that ran the line and provided the "ENTIRE PLAYER BASE" with vids so they would know what they were spending their time, money, xp on-ultimately got screwed again by WG (Wargaming) because the line doesn't do what the vids said they would do! Its simple really. If you spend time, money, xp on a line "BASED ON WHAT WAS ADVERTISED" BY WG only to have it NOT DO WHAT THEY ADVERTISED is a let down of epic proportions! Sorry ppl, WG has been doing this to their bread and butter (YOU AND ME) their entire gaming life!

[QuantumEntropy]

 

I don't claim to be amazing, I'm still way out of practice and don't even know what half the ships are these days. WTH is a Minataur? And a Neptune?? What is this weirdness?

 

But still, my stats aren't terrible, given the very small sample sizes:

 

 

 

And look at German DDs overall. They seem to be performing just fine.

 

 

 

Just seems bizarre that people are complaining non-stop about them.

 

I didn't say your stats are bad , but compared with what game you posted they are ok ish but still better then the server avrage

 

They are fine but i am 100% sure that people just like to complain no matter the reason and now they are protesting cause WG did a mistake , like that's a first

 

[Lensar]

Well, I think its because Wargaming NERFED the line at release! All the testers that ran the line and provided the "ENTIRE PLAYER BASE" with vids so they would know what they were spending their time, money, xp on-ultimately got screwed again by WG (Wargaming) because the line doesn't do what the vids said they would do! Its simple really. If you spend time, money, xp on a line "BASED ON WHAT WAS ADVERTISED" BY WG only to have it NOT DO WHAT THEY ADVERTISED is a let down of epic proportions! Sorry ppl, WG has been doing this to their bread and butter (YOU AND ME) their entire gaming life!

 

Gotcha. I missed all the hype and just happened to be bored over the holidays and logged in and saw a couple new DD lines. I can understand people feeling let down if they expected one thing and ended up with something else, although I suspect whatever nerfs they made were probably needed.

[centarina]

T5 is kinda bad, but t4 is fine.    lack of stealth is big issue with t5, but that is usually the case with nicholas as well.   not upto t6 yet,.

[Khafni]

Well, I think its because Wargaming NERFED the line at release! All the testers that ran the line and provided the "ENTIRE PLAYER BASE" with vids so they would know what they were spending their time, money, xp on-ultimately got screwed again by WG (Wargaming) because the line doesn't do what the vids said they would do! Its simple really. If you spend time, money, xp on a line "BASED ON WHAT WAS ADVERTISED" BY WG only to have it NOT DO WHAT THEY ADVERTISED is a let down of epic proportions! Sorry ppl, WG has been doing this to their bread and butter (YOU AND ME) their entire gaming life!

 

Everyone has been clinging to what the community contributors have been saying about the line prior to release. And everyone who made a review cautioned that there could be changes at release -  and there was. Unfortunately, even the contributors were caught off guard by WG deciding to change the gunfire detection range after the NDA was dropped. But the line was released. It has not been nerfed, yet. Hopefully they give it a buff back to what the contributors reviewed.

 

The line isn't bad. It plays well and is different and requires some adjustment. That is what a new line is supposed to be - different. You've gotta get used to it. Server averages aren't showing them underperforming. The community impression is showing it underperforming.

[Grevester]

Becuase people are mad that they don't power creep all the other dds.

[Lensar]

I don't have a problem with the detection rate when firing. Honestly, I think all ships should should be visible to whomever they are firing at, unless they're behind cover or smoke.

[WWWWWWWWWWWVWWWWWWWWWWWW]

Meh line is meh. Worst dd for most tiers at 5+.  We will see after cap skills if they get better or worse. 

[Destroyer_HatsuzukiKai]

And look at German DDs overall. They seem to be performing just fine.

 

 

 

Just seems bizarre that people are complaining non-stop about them.

 

 

Everytime a new line is introduced the unicum players breakes the stats of the new ships, is was true for the Russian CAs, German BBs and RN CLs, when you looked at their stats upon release that was just absurd and everyone was calling them OPs this is not true for the german DDs, their stats are just "fine" because not even unicum players are being able to breake their stats like the other lines intruduced this year.

[jabberwalkie09]

Meh line is meh. Worst dd for most tiers at 5+.  We will see after cap skills if they get better or worse. 

 

Depending on how the points system works, and if people are able to get to the tier 4 skills for CE, that'll change things.