873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #1 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) First off, sorry about the general formatting, grammar and spelling errors - short on time today. I've broken this down into the "Batches," I've purchased, and at the bottom of the list I'll note the basic mechanics that I observed while...sciencing. I'll also just be pasting in my list from the other threads, and not editing it at all... Also, I don't think 100 boxes is a significant enough sample size to make any predictive statements, but I'm not going to spend anymore money on this science. So these will just be observations and theory... $5 1. Restless Fire 2. Atago + 10 point Commander 3. Halloween 2016 4. Ocean Soul --------------------- $5 5. 333 Dragon Flags (the best!) 6. 1500 Doubloons 7. Ishizuchi + 10 point Commander 8. Halloween 2016 9. 1500 Doubloons 10. Gamescom 2016 11. Ocean Soul 12. Ishichui (2500 doubloons, 10 point commander) 13. Ocean Soul 14. 1500 Doubloons ---------------------- $5 15. Texas + 10 point Commander) 16. 180 Days Premium 17. Gamescom 2016 18. Halloween 2016 19. Restless Fire 20. Restless Fire 21. Atlanta + 10 point Commander 22. Gamsecom 2016 23. 1500 Doubloons 24. Halloween 2016 ----------------------- $5 25. Emden 26. Emden (Some Doubloons) ----------------------- $5 27. Halloween 2016 28. Lo Yang 29. Lo Yang (8,000 Doubloons) 30. More camo, not dragon Flags (Ocean Soul, I think....might have been Gamescon though.) ----------------------- $5 31. Halloween 32. Restless Fire 33. Halloween 34. Restless Fire 35. Halloween (what is this, a pattern?) 36. Resteless Fire (someone needs to touring test this rng generator) 37. Halloween (No, I'm not making this up.) 38. GREMYACHY 39. Prince Eugen 40. Gamescon ----------------------- $1 41. 50x Zulu Flags 42. 300 doubloons 43. 60x New Year 2017 Camo 44. 60x New Year 2017 45. 50x Zulu 56. 50x Zulu 47. Indianapolis + 10 point Commander 48. 50x Papa Papa 49. 50x Zulu 50. 50x Zulu Hotel ----------------------- $5 51. Restless Fire 52. 1500 Doubloons 53. Halloween 2016 54. Gamescom 55. Ishi (2500 doubloons) 56. Ishi (2500 doubloons) 57. Ocean Soul 58. Ocean Soul 59. 1500 Doubloons 60. Gamescom ----------------------- $5 boxes, day three? Day four? 61. Gamescon 62. 1500 Doubloons 63. Restless Fire 64. 1500 Doubloons 65. Halloween 66. Ocean Soul 67. Ocean Soul 68. Restless Fire 69. Ishizuchi...again (2500 doubloons) 70. Another, [edited], Ishizuchi. (2500 doubloons) 70.B. (Random container from ... WG, not a Santa one. 50K, Zulu, 500xp) ----------------------- $3 71. Emden (+1500 doubloons, +10 point cap) 72. Emden (+1500 doubloons, +10 point cap) 73. Emden (+1500 doubloons, +10 point cap) 74. 20 Ocean Soul 75. 20 World of Warships Anniversary 76. 50 Equal Speed Charlie London 77. 20 WOWS Anninversary 78. 1000 Doubloons 79. 50 ESCL 80. Emden (+1500 doubloons, +10 point cap) 81. Indeanapolis (+7500 doubloons, +10 point cap - which I do actually need. Unlike the extra billion German and IJN captains I have.) 82. 25 Dragon Flags (YAY DRAGON FLAGS!) 83. 1000 Doubloons 84. Ocean Soul 85. WOWS Anniversary 86. WOWS Anniversary 87. 1000 Doubloons 88. Ocean Soul 89. 1000 Doubloons 90. WOWS Anniversary ----------------------- $3. 91. 50 Equal Speed Charlie London 92. 50 Equal Speed Charlie London 93. 1000 Doubloons 94. 50 Equal Speed Charlie London 95. 20 World of Warships Annivesrary ----------------------- $5 96. 35 Ocean Soul 97. 35 Restless Fire 98. 1500 Doubloons 99. Ishizuchi, again. (+2500 doubloons, and ANOTHER 10 point captain.) 100. 35 Halloween 2016 ------------------------ $5. 101. 1500 Doubloons --------- $3 101. 20 WOWS Anniversary Camo 102. 20 Ocean Soul 103. 25 Dragon Flag (and hoot telling me he opened a Nikolai out of my gifts to him) 104. Premium Ship box (Emden, again, 1500 doubloons) 105. 20 Ocean Soul 106. 20 WOWS Anniversary 107. 20 Ocean Soul 108. 1000 Doubloons 109. Premium Ship Box (Emden, AGAIN, 1500 doubloons) 110. ANOTHER. [edited]EMDEN (premium ship box..) 1500 doubloons 111. 20 WOWS Anniversary 112. 20 Ocean Soul 113. 100! Halloween 2016 114. A. [edited]. EMNDEN. [edited]. AGAIN. Other people get multiple Nikolai, or Mumansk, or Marbleheads, or Warspites and get their doubloon value, I get [edited]Emdens. 115. 20 WOWS Anniversary Observations: 1. There is no award or extra achievement for opening 100 Santa Presents. Nor in gifting 45 boxes. 2. Ishizuchi and Emden seem to be the most common ships given out (after breifly perusing other members lists and my own experience...) 3. Premiums that are not available via the Santa presents - again, after breif persual of people's present lists, if I am wrong, please correct me: Tachibana, Smith, Mikasa, Cambleton, Flint, Marblehead LIMA, Saipan, Missouri, Albany, Kamikaze/R, Fujin, ARP ships, Katori, Shinome, Tachibana LIMA, Tone, Yubari, Graf Spee, Konig Albert, Belfast, Perth, Daina, Aurora, Diana LIMA, Krasny Krym, Leningrad. Server specific ships (Dragons,) and un-released premiums, Alpha and Beta, and Super-Tester only ships are not available for obvious reasons. 4. Buying in single boxes and opening, and buying in batches does not seem to affect duplicat premium ships if you have all the available ships on the 'Santa List,' there will just be a much lower change to get a duplicate higher-value ship - and you'll get a bunch of Emden and Ishizuchi. 5. In regards to buying and opening one at a time to get as many premium ships as possible, I don't think it will matter in the long run if you buy and open in bulk vs. one at a time. And I doubt WG is going to give us any hints. I opened a second Indy, which based on available evidence is an uncommon gift compared to some of the other ships. 6. $1 boxes are an utter waste of money - there is a chance to get premium ships, and doubloons, but otherwise you get Flags and BAD camo. Well, unless you're grinding free XP, it's a bad camo. No concealment bonus, or enemy accuracy debuff bonus on it. 7. If you want some Camo, doubloons, and SOME flags, get the $3 boxes. (But see #9 on specific good camos) 8. If you don't want Flags at all, and just want Camo and Doubloons get the $5 boxes, with extra premium chances thrown in. 9. Restless Fire and Gamescon Camo, at least for me, was only available in the $5 boxes. While the WOWS Anniversary was only in the $3 boxes. 10. You can get 25 Dragon Flags in the $3 containers, but in the $5 containers it's a 333 Flag drop. (Wish I got that a few more times...) 11. I was only ever awarded Premium time (180 days) in a single box. But it is available in 90-day increments and 180-day increments as far as I can tell. 12. Prizes for more Slots and Commander Reserve spaces do not seem to be a part of iths Secret Santa prize list. 13. Forum user Mytaru reports getting 333 Dragon Flags from a $3 box. However, no one else that I've seen has gotten similar (only 25 flags from $3 boxes.) 14. If you have a small reserve....and want to buy a lot of boxes - make your reserve bigger so that you don't lose the 10 point captains from duplicate premium ships. 15. Happy Holidays, and Science Well! 16. New OBSERVATION - 100 CAMO box: From $3 box - http://i.imgur.com/zRFqsqC.jpg?1 Edited December 26, 2016 by aether_tech 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
435 715 Alpha Tester 1,140 posts 2,160 battles Report post #2 Posted December 25, 2016 I got a Marblehead out of $5 box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,855 RedSeaBear Members 5,450 posts 21,017 battles Report post #3 Posted December 25, 2016 And if any one will gift me 100 present boxes I'll do my own testing to see what we get. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #4 Posted December 25, 2016 Science of the Wallets! Hello Clarice.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,196 GhostSwordsman Members 6,586 posts 8,564 battles Report post #5 Posted December 25, 2016 So is Kamikaze(the green one) available through Santa crates, or would it fall under Fujin in that list of premiums unavailable through them? I'm guessing you either purposely didn't mention it, or just forgot(since it's only ever been sold on this server through those dumb Black Friday bundles). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #6 Posted December 25, 2016 So is Kamikaze(the green one) available through Santa crates, or would it fall under Fujin in that list of premiums unavailable through them? I'm guessing you either purposely didn't mention it, or just forgot(since it's only ever been sold on this server through those dumb Black Friday bundles). Ooops, forgot to put those two on the list! I haven't seen anyone open a Kamikaze (or R) so I'm reasonably sure they aren't going to be on the Santa List. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #7 Posted December 25, 2016 I got a Marblehead out of $5 box. Did you get a Marblehead, or a Marblehead LIMA? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
435 715 Alpha Tester 1,140 posts 2,160 battles Report post #8 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Did you get a Marblehead, or a Marblehead LIMA? Marblehead NVM...I see it is the LIMA version on the list. Edited December 25, 2016 by 715 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #9 Posted December 25, 2016 Marblehead apt avatar is apt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,196 GhostSwordsman Members 6,586 posts 8,564 battles Report post #10 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Ooops, forgot to put those two on the list! I haven't seen anyone open a Kamikaze (or R) so I'm reasonably sure they aren't going to be on the Santa List. I wouldn't have expected the Kamikaze R to be on the list at all anyway. It was only sold after Project R, and like Kamikaze R, and unlike Fujin, the green Kamikaze's only been sold once on this server as well. Perhaps next year then, we'll be able to get Kamikaze(and/or her sister ships) through Santa crates(since Gremmy and Nikolai were drops), if WG does a similar event. Edited December 25, 2016 by GhostSwordsman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 [PNGYN] Bluewolf_1976 Members 46 posts Report post #11 Posted December 25, 2016 9. Restless Fire and Gamescon Camo, at least for me, was only available in the $5 boxes. While the WOWS Anniversary was only in the $3 boxes. I received Gamescon and Restless Fire from the $3 boxed... I think 25 each time... I found the $3 boxes held the most value. The $5 boxes I just got camo from and the Marblehead. I think that's where I got my Gremy as well... The $3 boxes I got a Tirpitz, Blyz, bunch of camo. bunch of dragon flags. It consistently was good drops for me. Thanks for the science though. I will be trying more of my own when I get paid again next... lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #12 Posted December 25, 2016 I received Gamescon and Restless Fire from the $3 boxed... I think 25 each time... I'll have to wait on more confirmation for this, before I add/correct my post. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,091 battles Report post #13 Posted December 25, 2016 100 boxes? Need a friend? I volunteer as tribute... kidding. Good luck if you try more of them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
642 [-K--] iHaveNoIntelligence Members 1,817 posts 9,029 battles Report post #14 Posted December 25, 2016 I'm aiming for Indie and Scharn(Scharn seems to have less chance than anyother ships) and also maybe PE Would you recommend buying 3$ or 5$ Boxes(or mixed? - of course I don't have unlimited budget... I'll be paying around 40 bucks) And also shall I buy in batch or single boxes? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #15 Posted December 25, 2016 100 boxes? Need a friend? I volunteer as tribute... kidding. Good luck if you try more of them! I have no friends, will you be my first? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #16 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) I'm aiming for Indie and Scharn(Scharn seems to have less chance than anyother ships) and also maybe PE Would you recommend buying 3$ or 5$ Boxes(or mixed? - of course I don't have unlimited budget... I'll be paying around 40 bucks) And also shall I buy in batch or single boxes? Honestly, I'm not sure. Without putting everyone's pulls into a matrix/spreadsheet thing and seeing which boxe gives the highest chance for a specific ship, I really can't answer your question: specific ship wanted, which box? I'd recommend the $3 boxes, just because it gives you a much larger number of boxes to work with - but how the actual chances vary from $3 to $5, I can't say. I opened mostly $5 boxes because of the Camos, and chance of 333 dragon flags. Edited December 25, 2016 by aether_tech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,622 [-KIA-] Czevak Senior Volunteer Moderator, Beta Testers, Supertester, Privateers, Senior Volunteer Moderator 6,550 posts 8,491 battles Report post #17 Posted December 25, 2016 Yeah aether, $3 boxes are the best to go simply for the fact it has good items and there are more boxes to open. (That and $5 tends to drop camo 90% of the time....) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
295 Sir_Orrin Members 836 posts 5,480 battles Report post #18 Posted December 25, 2016 Did someone say science? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
642 [-K--] iHaveNoIntelligence Members 1,817 posts 9,029 battles Report post #19 Posted December 25, 2016 Honestly, I'm not sure. Without putting everyone's pulls into a matrix/spreadsheet thing and seeing which boxe gives the highest chance for a specific ship, I really can't answer your question: specific ship wanted, which box? I'd recommend the $3 boxes, just because it gives you a much larger number of boxes to work with - but how the actual chances vary from $3 to $5, I can't say. I opened mostly $5 boxes because of the Camos, and chance of 333 dragon flags. Well there is a spread sheet on Reddit but it also doesn't have all samples.... But anyway thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #20 Posted December 25, 2016 Yeah aether, $3 boxes are the best to go simply for the fact it has good items and there are more boxes to open. (That and $5 tends to drop camo 90% of the time....) But regular ESCL flags are a blight on that otherwise good record for $3 boxes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,329 Canadatron Members 5,206 posts 3,461 battles Report post #21 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) I'll get a list together aether and post up my findings. I purchased 100 packages but opened fewer, probably in the 60s range. I only opened 5 5 dollar crates and the remainder were 3. As soon as I transcribe my list I'll post up the results, for science obviously Edited December 25, 2016 by Canadatron Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #22 Posted December 25, 2016 I'll get a list together aether and post up my findings. I purchased 100 packages but opened fewer, probably in the 60s range. I only opened 5 5 dollar crates and the remainder were 3. As soon as I transcribe myit I'll post up the results, for science obviously For science! Long May The Church Of Bill Nye Reign! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,091 battles Report post #23 Posted December 25, 2016 The 3$ are ok. You get at least stuff for about 1000 gold value. The only good things from the 1$ boxes were 2 times 60 New Year camos. I tried some mixed boxes for about 40$. I got 2 ships out of them, a Lo Yang and a Itchy Zucchini. Oh and those 4k gold ofc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68 [-K_P-] CG59 Members 545 posts 3,883 battles Report post #24 Posted December 25, 2016 I'm aiming for Indie and Scharn(Scharn seems to have less chance than anyother ships) and also maybe PE Would you recommend buying 3$ or 5$ Boxes(or mixed? - of course I don't have unlimited budget... I'll be paying around 40 bucks) And also shall I buy in batch or single boxes? From 14x$3 boxes I have received the following: Scharnhorst, Indy, Arizona, Warspite, Texas, Dresden, Ischizuchi, Sims. Purchased 4x$5 boxes and got an Atago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,761 battles Report post #25 Posted December 26, 2016 Ill be adding $50 in $3 boxes to this list, cash gift for holiday from grandmother. So, ill have a reasonable number of $3 to compare to the $5 boxes. If anyone else has taken good notes about thier gains, list them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites