1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #1 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Bought myself some Santa crates for Christmas, got Arizona, Warspite, and Gremy. Can the Gremy stealth fire with AFT and CE? And is the wondow large? If not I'd just prefer to run AFT DE. But I'm not super familiar with this ship's skill setup, advice? Edit: Took your advice and ran AFT on it, this ship is so stupid lol, so egregiously OP. Here's my first ever game in it. 1v1'd an enemy Colorado with ease. Edited December 25, 2016 by goldeagle1123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
26 Lolwutinator Beta Testers 164 posts 3,613 battles Report post #2 Posted December 25, 2016 You can stealth fire from 10,6km upwards with only AFT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #3 Posted December 25, 2016 You can stealth fire from 10,6km upwards with only AFT. That's hilarious, AFT it is. This ship is so broke, lol. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,865 [ARR0W] Pugilistic Members 6,150 posts 32,926 battles Report post #4 Posted December 25, 2016 That's hilarious, AFT it is. This ship is so broke, lol. I think even more than Nikolai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
77 [HOTH] EmGee42 Beta Testers 337 posts 6,812 battles Report post #5 Posted December 25, 2016 I think even more than Nikolai. Yeah, but Nikolai gets countered by DDs/CVs pretty easily Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
78 AWarmToiletSeat Beta Testers 230 posts 5,463 battles Report post #6 Posted December 25, 2016 I think even more than Nikolai. its disgusting at tier 5, glad i got one in a Santa box dont know if ill ever have a reason to play the Anshan i got in another box. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
101 [PVE] Amaruk Members 254 posts 11,493 battles Report post #7 Posted December 25, 2016 You can stealth fire from 10,6km upwards with only AFT. Minor correction. Gremlin has 1.3km stealth fire buffer bone stock, even without a captain. With AFT it exceeds 3.5km Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #8 Posted December 25, 2016 BFT LS+EM AFT, DE If you want, you can drop the LS, and DE and go for CE and be..cowardly...and then pick up LS again with another two skill points... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #9 Posted December 25, 2016 its disgusting at tier 5, glad i got one in a Santa box dont know if ill ever have a reason to play the Anshan i got in another box. For real, I bought the Anshan when it first came out, it's just a carbon copy of the ship a tier higher, with slightly better turret traverse speeds, and so stealth firing. Gremy is just an outright better ship that it, and it's a tier higher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #10 Posted December 25, 2016 The ship has the unnerfed VMF HE and firing concealment it also has torps. If you want to run more balanced you can run CE and take advantage of the torps but I prefer AFT and DE which happens to work well with training my vmf captains. The funny thing about the ship is just a couple months ago people were campaigning to get it sold again saying it is a balanced ship. Now we are going to see people calling it op again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #11 Posted December 25, 2016 The ship has the unnerfed VMF HE and firing concealment it also has torps. If you want to run more balanced you can run CE and take advantage of the torps but I prefer AFT and DE which happens to work well with training my vmf captains. The funny thing about the ship is just a couple months ago people were campaigning to get it sold again saying it is a balanced ship. Now we are going to see people calling it op again. People need to play more Clemson and Izyaslav, they both melt the Gremy quite nicely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #12 Posted December 25, 2016 The ship has the unnerfed VMF HE and firing concealment it also has torps. If you want to run more balanced you can run CE and take advantage of the torps but I prefer AFT and DE which happens to work well with training my vmf captains. The funny thing about the ship is just a couple months ago people were campaigning to get it sold again saying it is a balanced ship. Now we are going to see people calling it op again. There is no objective reality where this is ship is in any way shape or form balanced. That's like calling Khab and Udaloi balanced. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,644 [O7] 1nv4d3rZ1m Alpha Tester, Alpha Tester 12,147 posts 9,111 battles Report post #13 Posted December 25, 2016 There is no objective reality where this is ship is in any way shape or form balanced. That's like calling Khab and Udaloi balanced. People that don't know how to take advantage of the stealth fire can't understand why it's so good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #14 Posted December 25, 2016 People that don't know how to take advantage of the stealth fire can't understand why it's so good. Potato is as potato does I guess. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,106 battles Report post #15 Posted December 25, 2016 Bought myself some Santa crates for Christmas, got Arizona, Warspite, and Gremy. Can the Gremy stealth fire with AFT and CE? And is the wondow large? If not I'd just prefer to run AFT DE. But I'm not super familiar with this ship's skill setup, advice? Edit: Took your advice and ran AFT on it, this ship is so stupid lol, so egregiously OP. Here's my first ever game in it. 1v1'd an enemy Colorado with ease. You get AFT and CE, you can stealth fire A LONG way. My gremlin only has AFT and I can fire from over 10km. I got a REAL big window of where I can fire if I sit at range. It's epic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #16 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) The only skill that matters Commander wise is Expert Marksman, not even kidding. I usually play my Grem with low skill Commanders and honestly the ship works regardless of how you buff her. After you get acclimated with her turrets and learn to keep some distance from Red DDs you can even live without EM. Otherwise... her setup doesn't work particularly well with high tier VMF DDs imo. BFT/Expert Loader, Last Stand/EM, Super( Torp Acceleration is a pretty good option if you can torp without a stealth window), AFT( I take DE, I don't care about Stealth Firing, give me fire please) and CE. Like I said though...doesnt matter imo after you get used to her turrets you can stick a zero point CPT in Grem and do extremely well. Keep Distance from USN DDs at 8-10k when 1v1, use her Rudder to move her guns in increments as you track a target to avoid incoming fire(no clue how else to explain this... It becomes second nature after awhile). Grem is the strongest Premium for her tier in game, even more than Flint I think. I think more players having her is a good thing if only for the simple fact that having them on both Red and Green sides during a battle is more fair, something that rarely happened before and is now common place. Edited December 25, 2016 by slak__ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #17 Posted December 25, 2016 The only skill that matters Commander wise is Expert Marksman, not even kidding. I usually play my Grem with low skill Commanders and honestly the ship works regardless of how you buff her. After you get acclimated with her turrets and learn to keep some distance from Red DDs you can even live without EM. Otherwise... her setup doesn't work particularly well with high tier VMF DDs imo. BFT/Expert Loader, Last Stand/EM, Super( Torp Acceleration is a pretty good option if you can torp without a stealth window), AFT( I take DE, I don't care about Stealth Firing, give me fire please) and CE. Like I said though...doesnt matter imo after you get used to her turrets you can stick a zero point CPT in Grem and do extremely well. Keep Distance from USN DDs at 8-10k when 1v1, use her Rudder to move her guns in increments as you track a target to avoid incoming fire(no clue how else to explain this... It becomes second nature after awhile). Grem is the strongest Premium for her tier in game, even more than Flint I think. I think more players having her is a good thing if only for the simple fact that having them on both Red and Green sides during a battle is more fair, something that rarely happened before and is now common place. I disagree, tier for tier, the Blys, and the Belfast are stronger than the Gremy IMO, as is the Nik, since she can't see tier 6's anymore. Gremy is good, but without a decent team, she falls apart the fastest of the OP premiums, even with her long range (and slow) torpedoes, her gun traverse make it hard for her to do anything against multiple enemies and she lacks pure alpha like the Nik and Belfast. And the Blys has good torpedoes, more guns, and can more easily deal with 1vX situations than the gremy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Komaeda_Nagito Members 268 posts 4,012 battles Report post #18 Posted December 25, 2016 They really need to put this thing on sale again, it seems everyone except me got one from those crates Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
873 [MPIRE] aether_tech Beta Testers 3,804 posts 6,762 battles Report post #19 Posted December 25, 2016 They really need to put this thing on sale again, it seems everyone except me got one from those crates Don't you get it? That's the sale. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Komaeda_Nagito Members 268 posts 4,012 battles Report post #20 Posted December 25, 2016 Don't you get it? That's the sale. Nah, I got 20 of them in just 1 crate. Sorry if Im getting really salty after seeing so many posts on this ship Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,513 atPrick__ Members 16,315 posts 12,285 battles Report post #21 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) I disagree, tier for tier, the Blys, and the Belfast are stronger than the Gremy IMO, as is the Nik, since she can't see tier 6's anymore. Gremy is good, but without a decent team, she falls apart the fastest of the OP premiums, even with her long range (and slow) torpedoes, her gun traverse make it hard for her to do anything against multiple enemies and she lacks pure alpha like the Nik and Belfast. And the Blys has good torpedoes, more guns, and can more easily deal with 1vX situations than the gremy. Hmmm, to each their own. Blys is fat, a large target and if you run up on people that can hit what they are shooting at this makes for a quick match. Regardless Grem is a T7 and has the benefit of being capped at T7 ships, imo if she is fighting anything other than a T7 she is essentially shooting down tiers. She does struggle with 1v1 Blyskawica, more than struggle but Grem doesn't see T9s or T8s. Grem doesn't struggle with Sims or Mahan, for that matter Kiev. Personal preference I guess but... Grem is pretty damn strong at T5... Edited December 25, 2016 by slak__ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #22 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) They really need to put this thing on sale again, it seems everyone except me got one from those crates I mean, to be fair I blew an exorbitant amount of money on those damn crates. WG won this round. Edited December 25, 2016 by goldeagle1123 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,753 goldeagle1123 Members 5,424 posts 3,448 battles Report post #23 Posted December 25, 2016 I disagree, tier for tier, the Blys, and the Belfast are stronger than the Gremy IMO, as is the Nik, since she can't see tier 6's anymore. Gremy is good, but without a decent team, she falls apart the fastest of the OP premiums, even with her long range (and slow) torpedoes, her gun traverse make it hard for her to do anything against multiple enemies and she lacks pure alpha like the Nik and Belfast. And the Blys has good torpedoes, more guns, and can more easily deal with 1vX situations than the gremy. What? Gremy doesn't give a damn about teams. It's literally a T5 DD that has the old even more OP VMF ammunition, great torpedoes, and levels of stealth firing that are comparable only to tier 9 and 10 destroyers. This ship is the definition of outright broken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,782 [WOLF2] HazardDrake Beta Testers 6,749 posts 15,667 battles Report post #24 Posted December 25, 2016 People need to play more Clemson and Izyaslav, they both melt the Gremy quite nicely. 16 point captian in my Clemson. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites