105 [PSV] madmikey77 Members 536 posts 22,368 battles Report post #1 Posted December 24, 2016 If you want me to play tier 10, please revert the frequency back to what it used to be. This mode has become far more common with the new patch. It blows. Get rid of it. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Komaeda_Nagito Members 268 posts 4,012 battles Report post #2 Posted December 24, 2016 they really need to nerf that fort thing, it kills destroyers faster than enemy cruisers 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #3 Posted December 24, 2016 Also, is it just me, or do some of the forts have double turrets now? I could dodge single shells, but dodging multiple is harder. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
105 [PSV] madmikey77 Members 536 posts 22,368 battles Report post #4 Posted December 24, 2016 they really need to nerf that fort thing, it kills destroyers faster than enemy cruisers It's nearly impossible to play Bastion as a DD. The forts are super-accurate and do a ton of damage. You can't push at all. I don't know why they saw a need to change the mode. It was already unpopular. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #5 Posted December 24, 2016 Also, is it just me, or do some of the forts have double turrets now? I could dodge single shells, but dodging multiple is harder. It's not you. In the patch notes and the video they said they updated some of the forts and locations do the forts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
365 [RSRC] Arbinshire Beta Testers 1,258 posts 9,265 battles Report post #6 Posted December 24, 2016 Seems like WG is tired of just removing all the terrible game modes they come up with and is instead standing their ground and doubling down. Which sucks because I absolutely despise this game mode. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
242 [MAR_U] GX9900A Beta Testers 828 posts 10,391 battles Report post #7 Posted December 24, 2016 ... its my favorite game mode... i understand that im a minority but im really glad that i get to see it more often... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
258 OOM911 Alpha Tester 1,435 posts 22,739 battles Report post #8 Posted December 24, 2016 I personally love this game mode... It's so different from the others which are basically all deathmatch with cap points in different configurations. The only thing I would suggest is make it so the forts could be tiered down in, HP, Range,Accuracy, and Firepower depending on the tier that the battle is. This would allow it to be at more tier's then just tier 10. If more people are familiar with It I think it will do better. It would also be nice if there were more types of structures then just forts and observation posts. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,662 [CALM] YamatoA150 Beta Testers 6,838 posts 6,088 battles Report post #9 Posted December 24, 2016 I love it because it discourages camping or stealth gameplay. It also ends battles faster, so the ships in battle can be re-used again sooner. My only wish is that they varied it up some with military airports providing ground-based aircraft attacks as well as some bases instead using hydro instead of radar (such as small area chokepoints to inhibit stealth torping in those areas). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
651 [DDM_] R_Razor Banned 1,680 posts 10,129 battles Report post #10 Posted December 24, 2016 Anything that makes DD lives harder is okay in my book. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
30 Komaeda_Nagito Members 268 posts 4,012 battles Report post #11 Posted December 24, 2016 Anything that makes DD lives harder is okay in my book. actually, it only makes DDs who can't contest points harder. In fact, the simplest solution is just to not cap at all and then your entire team lose by default. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
651 [DDM_] R_Razor Banned 1,680 posts 10,129 battles Report post #12 Posted December 24, 2016 actually, it only makes DDs who can't contest points harder. In fact, the simplest solution is just to not cap at all and then your entire team lose by default. Either way, if it discourages DD players it can only help the MM get back to a better balance of ships in the que and I'm happy about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #13 Posted December 24, 2016 ... its my favorite game mode... i understand that im a minority but im really glad that i get to see it more often... Well im in the minority with you, because I love bastion. Even when I'm in my Gearing. But it's not just rough for DDs, it's also rough for RN CLs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
762 IceSerpen7 Members 3,959 posts 7,738 battles Report post #14 Posted December 24, 2016 Well im in the minority with you, because I love bastion. Even when I'm in my Gearing. But it's not just rough for DDs, it's also rough for RN CLs. You're not in the minority, CoD kiddies who can't figure out how to play a given game mode are. Basically there are those of us who can figure out how to shoot a stationary fort and there are those like OP, who complain on the forums instead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #15 Posted December 25, 2016 Anything that makes DD lives harder is okay in my book. Definitely sensing a bias here. Either way, if it discourages DD players it can only help the MM get back to a better balance of ships in the que and I'm happy about it. It makes me laugh whenever someone complains about the number of DDs in the MM, when there are just as many or even more BBs in every single game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 HiTheJackpot Members 28 posts 5,527 battles Report post #16 Posted December 25, 2016 I love the bastion mode! waaaaay better than the Epicenter. friggin' hate that mode.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,363 [HYD] Aduial Members 7,105 posts 5,289 battles Report post #17 Posted December 25, 2016 I love the bastion mode! waaaaay better than the Epicenter. friggin' hate that mode.. I agree, epicenter is THE worst. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
864 WhatIsTheOdds Beta Testers 2,855 posts 9,046 battles Report post #18 Posted December 25, 2016 It would be good if it weren't for the forts that are deadlier than a Yamato to every ship. They have way too much range. With USN DDs and these forts you cannot complain when your battleships choose to stay far away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
29 nickalaso123 Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 108 posts 4,770 battles Report post #19 Posted December 25, 2016 I have tier 8 and played my NC quite a lot but I have NEVER encountered this bastion mode. How often is it in the rotation since this is supposed to be for t8-10 only. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,106 battles Report post #20 Posted December 25, 2016 All I can say is, thanks to Bastion I won one with my Roon. Those forts, good greif. And why did they change the north map? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
819 [WOLFG] 4bRbyHSSzZ6pk Members 4,300 posts Report post #21 Posted December 25, 2016 Haven't seen Bastion since patch hit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5 Webbie ∞ Beta Testers 39 posts 16,727 battles Report post #22 Posted December 25, 2016 Had a few games where the forts would have 4-5 kills was kinda funny really but those forts are just little op maybe. I made the mistake thinking i would be able to cap without being a big problem but i was mistaken ended up leaving me with 700 health. Fun times Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #23 Posted December 25, 2016 Also, is it just me, or do some of the forts have double turrets now? I could dodge single shells, but dodging multiple is harder. The turrets on North have triples. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,596 [-KIA-] TenguBlade Banned 9,382 posts 28,311 battles Report post #24 Posted December 25, 2016 Bastion isn't a bad mode in itself. In fact, I like the concept. The iteration of it on Atlantic was pretty good. The implementation of it on Hotspot in particular, however, is pure cancer. The idea of having forts start under one side's control to begin with is a stupid one, to understate it severely. Haven't seen the version on North, but if the forts don't start as neutrals there too, then the same thing is going to happen. The forts should be objectives to take, not obstacles for teams. The advantages in supporting firepower and spotting that they provide shouldn't be handed out, they should be earned. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,186 BlazerSparta Members 11,026 posts 30,665 battles Report post #25 Posted December 25, 2016 (edited) Bastion isn't a bad mode in itself. In fact, I like the concept. The iteration of it on Atlantic was pretty good. The implementation of it on Hotspot in particular, however, is pure cancer. The idea of having forts start under one side's control to begin with is a stupid one, to understate it severely. Haven't seen the version on North, but if the forts don't start as neutrals there too, then the same thing is going to happen. The forts should be objectives to take, not obstacles for teams. The advantages in supporting firepower and spotting that they provide shouldn't be handed out, they should be earned. It's not so much that it's bad for forts to be handed out at the beginning, it's more that the maps and game modes weren't designed for it. If you had an asymmetrical objective oriented mode, then sure, it would work. But for a symmetric domination+ mode.....no. Edited December 25, 2016 by issm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
