Is Physics Abuse an offense in this game?

[Canadian_Reaper]

I know it can be in WoT, but just had a game where a friendly Akatsuki tried to drop smoke in front of one of our remaining NC's. The BB player looked like he altered course a bit to hit the Akatsuki, and pushed him ahead of him into enemy fire while charging completely through and out of the smoke cloud into an enemy crossfire.

 

Oddly enough rather than having a DD and a BB hidden in smoke, we ended up with 2 dead ships.

 

Now I don't care about watching a friendly BB ignore a smoke cloud- the guy is a very poor player (256 battles in his Colorado averaging less than 20K damage a game, yet another example of failing your way into the higher tiers), it's annoying but it is what it is.

 

But ramming a friendly ship to push him out of the smoke cloud he's laying for you- that seems like it should be punished for more than the team damage he did.

 

(Also irritated because this was my best game ever in my new Benson- 200K damage Liquidator/Confed/High caliber, of course it had to be a loss lol) 

 

So just curious if anyone knows before I bother submitting the replay if physics abuse is a thing in this game

 

[awiggin]

Game rules say it's a punishable tactic....but I don't know that WG actually punishes anyone....

 

4.06. Intentionally exploiting the physics system to damage an allied tank, plane, ship or similar actions. This includes, but is not limited to, pushing an allied tank into line of fire, pushing allied tanks off of cliffs, bridges, into water, etc.

[AngryLou]

Just how multipleyer games work man. The ticket system gets filled up with crap as it is, it's really a waste of time to submit something so trivial. Yeah it sucks but man common really.........?

[RedSeaBear]

Sounds like a failure to communicate. 

1. Battleships can not stop on a dime.

2. Destroyers need to communicate their intention to lay smoke and place it in a way the ships can use it.

3. Not everyone is aware of how smoke works or are to tunnel visioned to know its been laid.

 

Sometimes when trying to rescue a big ship with my smoke I have intentionally rammed them or "bounced" off them to change my course to theirs so my smoke will cover them. 

[MidnightShamalan]

i'm with Red. this sounds more like a mistake or miscommunication than something intentional. it's just easy to get mad and assume things.

 

i'm saying that reservedly of course. it's impossible to say for sure without seeing for myself. i have, myself, run into a player who did this kind of thing intentionally to me. but in my case, it was blatantly obvious that he was trying to troll. this doesn't seem as convincing. it's entirely possible that he was tunnel visioned, or didn't anticipate the friendly's moves. or he's just really bad.

[Menemy]

If it was intetional, then yeah i would say it should be punishable. However it's far more likely that it was an accident and he was just tunnel visioned. 

[goldeagle1123]

Submit a support ticket with the replay if you actually want to see him punished.

[Canadian_Reaper]

Thanks all- yeah I'll probaly let this one go.

 

While I get that BB's don't stop on dimes, not slowing down and in fact turning into the DD that's already passed in front of you to lay smoke seems..odd.

It really looks (to me) that he changed course in order to tbone the DD, but.. while I was watching it happen, it wasn't my ship so I don't have a perfect view

 

Really just one of those things that made me wonder if physics abuse was in this game or not.

 

[Cruiser_YahagiKai]

I've realized that skippers in this game are often worse than commanders in WoT when it comes to paying attention to where they're sailing, there's just so much tunnel visioning going on that I find myself legitimately surprised when cruisers or battleships stop inside my DD smoke instead of just sailing through to their deaths, straight into me, or a combination of both. I suppose it's more because, unlike WoT, you're encouraged to keep sailing and maneuvering since there's not too much accuracy loss from doing so. 

 

The other problem is, when a ship is t-boned at a certain angle, it's actually near-impossible for the smaller ship to unclip themselves unless the larger, t-boning ship decides to stop. I've had a case where I had to tell a person multiple times to stop his vessel, because no amount of rudder shift or engine was getting me dislodged. It wasn't even intentional, the guy was just tunneling REALLY hard on a cruiser (that he did devstrike) and somehow didn't realize that he'd been pushing me along for six klicks.

[TheKrimzonDemon]

Ive been rammed out of smoke I laid for a big cruiser or BB a number of times, and then used to soak up shells so they didn't have to. I've actually been told this, which makes it even worse.

[Goliath654]

happens, could also be he was kinda actually paying attention and was pulling a turn to bleed speed, I do that sometimes when I see smoke laid from port to starboard I drop my speed and pull a hard turn so I can stop in the smoke and not go out, its possible mind you he did that and didn't compensate for the fact that the speed drop caused his ship to turn sharper.

[LHA3_BelleauWood]

I just got a Texas. And it's slow. Stopping, going full throttle, and believe it, cause I tested it in Training, takes 3nms. That's 3/4 of a square. And turning. The rudder is so slow, if I'm turning right and I want to go left, I'll still go right for quite a bit before I begin to go left.

As for communicating, at that particular moment, there's no time. we only have 2 hands.

If anything, the DD probably had the ability to get out of the way, unless they were so close to each other, then definitely, the BB had no time to react.