German Destroyer's flavour?

[HowitzerBlitzer]

Haven't been able to play recently, someone mind filling me in on it?

[VeatherVitch]

I'm just getting into them, but they feel like they have the detection of the Soviets, the guns of the IJN, and the torps of the USN.

[HowitzerBlitzer]

If that's the case, it's a match for my play style!

[ClockworkSpectre]

Its like they wanted to make them a jack of all trades style DD, but failed hard.  They aren't balanced well at all. 

[Sir_Godz]

sh1t

[Sir_Godz]

I'm just getting into them, but they feel like they have the detection of the Soviets, the guns of the IJN, and the torps of the USN.

 

and the handling of a cruiser

[VeatherVitch]

With the toughness of wet toilet paper... the t5 is soul crushing.

[Umikami]

Haven't been able to play recently, someone mind filling me in on it?

 

The national flavor, apparently after the horrendous detection when firing nerfs, is Mango, Chutney, and Burnt Hair!

(like the raccoon in the Gieco commercial says)

 

[jmswelch77]

Severely nerfed invisi-fire mechanic, decent torps, rough tier 5.  I will stick with my Russian and U.S. DDs.  No thanks WG unless something changes.

[Cruiser_CleveAniki]

People have said they work best as a fleet escort of sorts, which I suppose works. None of the cruisers want to do it because they'll get killed by BBs half a map away, where as the DDs can at least stay hidden... until they have to repel an attack by the opposing DDs.

[Tryne]

Optimize your boat for maximum torp spammage. You can get the reload to 58 seconds. It's amazing.

 

This is my strategy anyways.

[PEROPERO_MAIKA_STOCKINGS]

People have said they work best as a fleet escort of sorts, which I suppose works. None of the cruisers want to do it because they'll get killed by BBs half a map away, where as the DDs can at least stay hidden... until they have to repel an attack by the opposing DDs.

 

"Fleet Escort". That's the euphemism that players use when ships suck. No one calls the Khab, Udaloi, Yamato, "fleet escorts". Such term is limited to the likes of New Orleans, IJN DDs, and other crapships WG has created. 

[Yorcke]

'Balancing issues' alone will always guarantee that most ships are mediocre crap

[Personator]

At tier 6, the German DDs have access to Hydroacoustic Search (normal, not crazy 5km+ range)

[X15]

So far (at tier 5)

Ok torps

Crap guns

Crap armor

Trash turning

USN arcs and fire chance with IJN fire rate and RU damage

Moderately bad concealment

Poor smoke

Good AA

[Goose21891]

Tier 6 has worse range and detection while firing than the Ognevoi.

Torps are meh and the 150s, while amusing, are rarely useful in my experience so far, since you rarely get to fire AP at broadside cruisers.

[2ndAcr01]

 Well was looking forward to the German DD's.....................but the nerf hammer got them good. Torps are stealthy enough, decent range enough, guns marginal at best, the 4km bloom the moment you fire a gun pretty much gets you focused fired from everything within 15km of you. Your not as fast as Kiev and company to just run and gun,

 

Now to even the playing field, let them swing the nerf hammer just as hard on the US and especially the Russian DD's. I am at tier 10 on both but if you want to be fair and all.

[Cruiser_CleveAniki]

 

"Fleet Escort". That's the euphemism that players use when ships suck. No one calls the Khab, Udaloi, Yamato, "fleet escorts". Such term is limited to the likes of New Orleans, IJN DDs, and other crapships WG has created. 

 

yeeeeeeeeeeah.... I won't deny that...

[Ivlerlin]

I want to say "Light Cruiser" without Citadels. 

 

Makes me want to attempt to run Radar instead of Smoke on my RNCL's for a few matches and see how well I'll perform. 

[JackyJack]

 

   I have a maxed out tier 9 Z-46 (free XP) and so far its a major letdown.  It is just mediocre in every way.  I think the same developer who thought British cruisers were competitive designed the German destroyer line.  The guns have too high of arcs, especially for AP use.  The HE fire chance is too low.  The torpedoes are mediocre and have low damage.  Fletchers and Udalois will out dogfight you most of the time.  Your detectability isn't very good and invisible firing is only possible with smoke.  So what are these ships supposed to do?  They don't dogfight very well and don't have torpedoes good enough to be effectively used offensively.  

 

   The addition of hydro and decent AA coverage does not make up for these shortcomings.  German ships are supposed to be better than this.  If the developers are reading this, please consider giving the German DD line something to at least equal their rivals.  Better gun arcs would be a good start.  

[SgtMajorBuzz]

I'm honestly suprised nobody is demandin their xp and credits back. I bet if the same thing had happened to a premium ship after it was reviewed, the forums would be a much angrier place.

[Cruiser_CleveAniki]

I'm honestly suprised nobody is demandin their xp and credits back. I bet if the same thing had happened to a premium ship after it was reviewed, the forums would be a much angrier place.

 

It's more like a grim acceptance of WG's way of treating the playerbase. You see the same thing in the game made by the snail company. Maybe it's a cultural thing or something, idk.

[Umikami]

People have said they work best as a fleet escort of sorts, which I suppose works. None of the cruisers want to do it because they'll get killed by BBs half a map away, where as the DDs can at least stay hidden... until they have to repel an attack by the opposing DDs.

 

Yeah, this makes sense; because German DD's did so much "FLEET ESCORTING" during the Second World War, you remember all those powerful German Fleet battles where they took away ... what ... nothing from anyone because their fleet WAS A SECOND RATE COLLECTION OF GARBAGE THAT SUCKED!!

 

Graf Spee : Fooled by the English into sinking herself.

Bismark : Crippled by biplanes 10 years out of date and then pounded to death.

Tirpitz : Hid in fjiords until finally sunk by air power after doing NOTHING for most of the war.

 

 

German ships were designed to work mostly alone and as commerce raiders, they were never designed to face rival nations ships in "one on one" battles and instead were designed to run away and look for merchantmen to kill,  and "fleet support" is a WoW term for "this ship sucks so bad that it can't be out on the ocean by itself or it will be killed".

 

 

The German BB's, CA's, and CL's, in this game, are so overpowered compared to how they actually were that even seeing these ships in game is a joke.

I guess making their DD's pure crap is a form of "balance".

 

 

[VeatherVitch]

 

Yeah, this makes sense; because German DD's did so much "FLEET ESCORTING" during the Second World War, you remember all those powerful German Fleet battles where they took away ... what ... nothing from anyone because their fleet WAS A SECOND RATE COLLECTION OF GARBAGE THAT SUCKED!!

 

Graf Spee : Fooled by the English into sinking herself.

Bismark : Crippled by biplanes 10 years out of date and then pounded to death.

Tirpitz : Hid in fjiords until finally sunk by air power after doing NOTHING for most of the war.

 

 

German ships were designed to work mostly alone and as commerce raiders, they were never designed to face rival nations ships in "one on one" battles and instead were designed to run away and look for merchantmen to kill,  and "fleet support" is a WoW term for "this ship sucks so bad that it can't be out on the ocean by itself or it will be killed".

 

 

The German BB's, CA's, and CL's, in this game, are so overpowered compared to how they actually were that even seeing these ships in game is a joke.

I guess making their DD's pure crap is a form of "balance".

 

 

​I find your lack of history knowledge disturbing.... Bismarck and Tirpitz were more advanced than any of the ships they faced, they were out numbered badly and in the case of Bismarck had bad luck with a jammed rudder. In the real world luck and timing have far more to do with surviving battles than almost anything else.

 

The DDs are playable, but I don't find them terribly fun.