3,370 Terrible_Turtle Members 5,202 posts Report post #1 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) EDIT: Since some people are misunderstanding the intent of this post, I'm not talking about the number of DDs. I'm talking about the disparity in ship NATIONALITY mirroring. There shouldn't be three of a specific ship on one side and none on the other. Edited December 19, 2016 by Kombat_W0MBAT 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
107 [NAV] LegoGenius16 [NAV] Members 412 posts 8,554 battles Report post #2 Posted December 19, 2016 WGadressingknownproblems.exe not found. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
825 [ARMDA] Unabletony Members 9,004 posts 6,506 battles Report post #3 Posted December 19, 2016 ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
360 Rion12 Members 2,072 posts 2,712 battles Report post #4 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) "You are going to take your hide-and-seek matches and like them." -WG Edited December 19, 2016 by Rion12 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #5 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Nope. I've had about 5 DDs per side just about every match for the last 2 weeks. It actually seems to be more rare now to get less than 5 lol. Edited December 19, 2016 by renegadestatuz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520 [-FBS-] saagri Members 2,646 posts 4,290 battles Report post #6 Posted December 19, 2016 Nope. I've had about 5 DDs per side just about every match for the last 2 weeks. It's actually seems to be more rare now to get less than 5 lol. OP referring to the mismatch in gunboat DD's vs torpedo DD's. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,881 [WTFS] TheKrimzonDemon Members 9,331 posts 13,756 battles Report post #7 Posted December 19, 2016 Nope. I've had about 5 DDs per side just about every match for the last 2 weeks. It's actually seems to be more rare now to get less than 5 lol. The above is dead on, across all tiers that DD's play. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,102 Goose21891 Members 11,964 posts 6,273 battles Report post #8 Posted December 19, 2016 It lasted for one or two patches before it got removed, since it played havoc with que times. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
205 Captain_Doll Members 522 posts 15,990 battles Report post #9 Posted December 19, 2016 Ouch. So how'd the game turn out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
436 _Luna Alpha Tester 884 posts 3,403 battles Report post #10 Posted December 19, 2016 I've been wondering the same thing Wombat. From patch 5.9 In line with the matchmaker development plan, we restored the ship sorting rule: Now the matchmaker tries to uniformly distribute ships of different nations between the teams. For example, if two Soviet Gnevny destroyers and two Japanese Minekaze destroyers are present, the matchmaker will attempt to put one destroyer of each nation on each team. This rule will positively affect the quality of team balancing and make battles more even. I've seen many battles since then where this does not seem to be working. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #11 Posted December 19, 2016 OP referring to the mismatch in gunboat DD's vs torpedo DD's. Ah, did not notice that. My mistake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520 [-FBS-] saagri Members 2,646 posts 4,290 battles Report post #12 Posted December 19, 2016 Ah, did not notice that. My mistake. Either way, bad time to be a BB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #13 Posted December 19, 2016 Nope. I've had about 5 DDs per side just about every match for the last 2 weeks. It's actually seems to be more rare now to get less than 5 lol. Seeing lots of that too. But also had one match today that only had 1 BB and 1 DD per side, the rest were CA/CLs! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
185 [-DPF-] Nhi_Vanye Members 774 posts 11,104 battles Report post #14 Posted December 19, 2016 I think that the divisions in this case made distributing the ships a problem. I have seen similar cases where divisions were involved. It does seem like the could have swapped on Shimi with one Gearing though, so it may just be a bug. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
84 Shnoze_Shmon Members 512 posts 7,657 battles Report post #15 Posted December 19, 2016 What I noticed is the 10 T-10s, 9 T-9s and 5 T-8s. Talk about an unfortunate predicament for T-8s. And that New Orland's, a seriously unfortunate soul. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #16 Posted December 19, 2016 Seeing lots of that too. But also had one match today that only had 1 BB and 1 DD per side, the rest were CA/CLs! Good god man! That's like finding Bigfoot! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,596 SyndicatedINC Members 2,263 posts 13,901 battles Report post #17 Posted December 19, 2016 It lasted for one or two patches before it got removed, since it played havoc with que times. This, it went away a few patches ago, and is sadly missed. Those were good times, far more balanced matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
404 GearaDoga Beta Testers 1,156 posts Report post #18 Posted December 19, 2016 I've been wondering the same thing Wombat. From patch 5.9 In line with the matchmaker development plan, we restored the ship sorting rule: Now the matchmaker tries to uniformly distribute ships of different nations between the teams. For example, if two Soviet Gnevny destroyers and two Japanese Minekaze destroyers are present, the matchmaker will attempt to put one destroyer of each nation on each team. This rule will positively affect the quality of team balancing and make battles more even. I've seen many battles since then where this does not seem to be working. I think the relevant bit there is TRIES. They never said it tried very hard, nor that it worked well. And it really shouldn't surprise any of us if it absolutely doesn't do either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,053 [SYN] MrDeaf Members 16,027 posts 12,803 battles Report post #19 Posted December 19, 2016 I've been wondering the same thing Wombat. From patch 5.9 In line with the matchmaker development plan, we restored the ship sorting rule: Now the matchmaker tries to uniformly distribute ships of different nations between the teams. For example, if two Soviet Gnevny destroyers and two Japanese Minekaze destroyers are present, the matchmaker will attempt to put one destroyer of each nation on each team. This rule will positively affect the quality of team balancing and make battles more even. I've seen many battles since then where this does not seem to be working. not working since around 5.11, from what I have seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
964 [HINON] giovybez Members 3,375 posts 32,632 battles Report post #20 Posted December 19, 2016 wow that's some interesting MM, never seen anything quite like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #21 Posted December 19, 2016 Even when it is, two of those Gearings and one of the Shimikaze was in a division. That always lowers the MMs IQ to dedicated paint chip eater levels. That said, ouch. They got the 3 Gearings, the Zao, the Ibuki, the Yamato. About the only bright side to that MM is your team had the Fletchers and I'll take Tirpitz/Amagi over Bismarck/NC. Could be worse, you could get a Midway vs a Haku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #22 Posted December 19, 2016 So Kombat... you think maybe, if this was yanked a few updates back that maybe they could let us know, explain why? Because if I'd been one of those Gearings I woulda been all wahoo its hurtin' time... I would think the Gearings could wipe the map of Shimas... yes? no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
436 _Luna Alpha Tester 884 posts 3,403 battles Report post #23 Posted December 19, 2016 I would think the Gearings could wipe the map of Shimas... yes? no? Unless the Gearings were all Potato's and the Shima's got lucky with their torps, yeah. The Gearings would wipe the floor with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,498 Grizley Beta Testers 6,868 posts 4,189 battles Report post #24 Posted December 19, 2016 Unless the Gearings were all Potato's and the Shima's got lucky with their torps, yeah. The Gearings would wipe the floor with them. The two Fletchers will give the Gearings some trouble, and if two or three of the Shimas are in one place they WILL kill some Gearings just from massed torpedo fire. 15 torps is easy torpedo beats, 30 is challenging, 45 is difficult enough that one of those Gearings will be in a bad position and get hit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
204 StrikeTalon Members 1,054 posts 11,054 battles Report post #25 Posted December 19, 2016 The two Fletchers will give the Gearings some trouble, and if two or three of the Shimas are in one place they WILL kill some Gearings just from massed torpedo fire. 15 torps is easy torpedo beats, 30 is challenging, 45 is difficult enough that one of those Gearings will be in a bad position and get hit. If all the shimas are traveling together if none of them are on cool down for torpedo reload if they all spawn together if there aren't 3-4 caps if they work as a team etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
