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This is a bit unfair MM..

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You are a small fish in a big pond. On a side note, I can't tell if that is better or worse than my MM:

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How is it unfair?

 

Are you trolling?

 

He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match.  There's not even a T6 on the enemy team.

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Are you trolling?

 

He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match.  There's not even a T6 on the enemy team.

 

Actually I'm not trolling. And just as others have stated in here, a Cleveland can hold its own in a tier 8 match. Especially against the ships in that match. Load HE, burn everything to the waterline.

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That's when you have to shift mindsets and learn to stay inconspicuous and be a good support ship.

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Cleveland is more than capable of making a difference in a T8 game. i'd honestly rather have a Cleveland than an Atlanta on my team.

 

^This. Atlanta is arguably worse than the Cleveland. 

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Are you trolling?

 

He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match.  There's not even a T6 on the enemy team.

 

So what? The enemy team got Atlanta, which is about as useful as Cleveland given the lineup. Probably even less useful.

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DDs seem to run from my Atlanta, not sure much in my Cleveland..I think the Cleveland is a better overall ship.

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So what? The enemy team got Atlanta, which is about as useful as Cleveland given the lineup. Probably even less useful.

 

Not to mention his team got an extra Tier 8 BB....

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Are you trolling?

 

He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match.  There's not even a T6 on the enemy team.

 

You have to remember that the MM tries only to make fair teams. It cares not a whit to whether or not the matchups are fair to individual players.

 

The T6 is balanced out by an extra top-tier BB.

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You have to remember that the MM tries only to make fair teams. It cares not a whit to whether or not the matchups are fair to individual players.

 

The T6 is balanced out by an extra top-tier BB.

 

Obviously he does not understand that...

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Not to mention his team got an extra Tier 8 BB....

 

what? no. kinda the opposite, really.

 

they got the same amount (3). but one died early like a pleb. so. might as well not have been there.

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I've had my T5 ARP bb's put in with a T7 heavy match. I think I finally got my answer from WG for a git gudder flag. Joke aside, it's frustrating as all get out to be the tiny fish in the sea with all the sharks out there. But its suck it up or just drop from the match. I have seen this occur somewhat more frequently for me, especially with any of my T6 ca's. Once one of those T8 bb find me, the clock is ticking before I'm chopped up for chum. I sometimes wonder though if the range in Tiers should be dropped to 1 from 2 when the number of players on the server exceeds a certain number so instances of what Phil experienced occur lesss often.

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Again I agree.

T6 with T8 is an issue

 

Ships should not be more than +/- 1 tier unless in a div.

A T6 should never be in a battle with an T8.

 

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Again I agree.

T6 with T8 is an issue

 

Ships should not be more than +/- 1 tier unless in a div.

A T6 should never be in a battle with an T8.

 

 

No. Just no. Do you realize how many ships in the game would get a giant nerf bat to the head if they change the mm to this.

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I see no problem here. Anyone remembers how T3 could fight T5? That was intense. But this is not.

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No. Just no. Do you realize how many ships in the game would get a giant nerf bat to the head if they change the mm to this.

 

PSA: Most folks who post suggestions don't bother with contemplating the full extent of the implications.
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No. Just no. Do you realize how many ships in the game would get a giant nerf bat to the head if they change the mm to this.

 

No.  Not in the slightest.

 

Enlighten me please.

 

IF we operate under the assumption that the tiers are (somewhat) balanced within themselves (a reasonable game design goal) then your statement does not follow at all as far as I can determine.  So do tell, please, what specific ships are nerfed if they are not exposed to +/- 2 matchmaking, and WHY are they nerfed.  Specifically.

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