0 Phil_McCavity Members 4 posts 128 battles Report post #1 Posted December 19, 2016 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
455 [SCCC] FogInvader Members 2,845 posts 11,099 battles Report post #2 Posted December 19, 2016 Nope balanced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #3 Posted December 19, 2016 How is it unfair? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,251 MidnightShamalan Members 2,207 posts 5,424 battles Report post #4 Posted December 19, 2016 Cleveland is more than capable of making a difference in a T8 game. i'd honestly rather have a Cleveland than an Atlanta on my team. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520 [-FBS-] saagri Members 2,646 posts 4,290 battles Report post #5 Posted December 19, 2016 You are a small fish in a big pond. On a side note, I can't tell if that is better or worse than my MM: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
148 Kerrec Members 493 posts 7,072 battles Report post #6 Posted December 19, 2016 How is it unfair? Are you trolling? He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match. There's not even a T6 on the enemy team. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #7 Posted December 19, 2016 Are you trolling? He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match. There's not even a T6 on the enemy team. Actually I'm not trolling. And just as others have stated in here, a Cleveland can hold its own in a tier 8 match. Especially against the ships in that match. Load HE, burn everything to the waterline. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
583 QuantumEntropy Beta Testers 4,007 posts 14,539 battles Report post #8 Posted December 19, 2016 Cleveland can do well in tier 8s And it will be moved to tier 8 when the us cruiser line will be split Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,110 battles Report post #9 Posted December 19, 2016 That's when you have to shift mindsets and learn to stay inconspicuous and be a good support ship. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
520 [-FBS-] saagri Members 2,646 posts 4,290 battles Report post #10 Posted December 19, 2016 Cleveland is more than capable of making a difference in a T8 game. i'd honestly rather have a Cleveland than an Atlanta on my team. ^This. Atlanta is arguably worse than the Cleveland. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
762 IceSerpen7 Members 3,959 posts 7,738 battles Report post #11 Posted December 19, 2016 Are you trolling? He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match. There's not even a T6 on the enemy team. So what? The enemy team got Atlanta, which is about as useful as Cleveland given the lineup. Probably even less useful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
661 [13TH] HMCS_Devilfish Members 4,899 posts 9,120 battles Report post #12 Posted December 19, 2016 Buddy up with th Mogami .... your now a Xllll 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
33 [VX9] Mayhem1 [VX9] Beta Testers 420 posts 16,206 battles Report post #13 Posted December 19, 2016 DDs seem to run from my Atlanta, not sure much in my Cleveland..I think the Cleveland is a better overall ship. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #14 Posted December 19, 2016 So what? The enemy team got Atlanta, which is about as useful as Cleveland given the lineup. Probably even less useful. Not to mention his team got an extra Tier 8 BB.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #15 Posted December 19, 2016 Cleveland can do well in tier 8s And it will be moved to tier 8 when the us cruiser line will be split ^This. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
7,039 Skpstr Members 34,409 posts 10,768 battles Report post #16 Posted December 19, 2016 (edited) Are you trolling? He's the ONLY T6 in a T8 heavy match. There's not even a T6 on the enemy team. You have to remember that the MM tries only to make fair teams. It cares not a whit to whether or not the matchups are fair to individual players. The T6 is balanced out by an extra top-tier BB. Edited December 19, 2016 by Skpstr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #17 Posted December 19, 2016 You have to remember that the MM tries only to make fair teams. It cares not a whit to whether or not the matchups are fair to individual players. The T6 is balanced out by an extra top-tier BB. Obviously he does not understand that... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,251 MidnightShamalan Members 2,207 posts 5,424 battles Report post #18 Posted December 19, 2016 Not to mention his team got an extra Tier 8 BB.... what? no. kinda the opposite, really. they got the same amount (3). but one died early like a pleb. so. might as well not have been there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4 [VX9] IKECVBG Members 75 posts 11,101 battles Report post #19 Posted December 19, 2016 I've had my T5 ARP bb's put in with a T7 heavy match. I think I finally got my answer from WG for a git gudder flag. Joke aside, it's frustrating as all get out to be the tiny fish in the sea with all the sharks out there. But its suck it up or just drop from the match. I have seen this occur somewhat more frequently for me, especially with any of my T6 ca's. Once one of those T8 bb find me, the clock is ticking before I'm chopped up for chum. I sometimes wonder though if the range in Tiers should be dropped to 1 from 2 when the number of players on the server exceeds a certain number so instances of what Phil experienced occur lesss often. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
485 [-BWS] StingRayOne Beta Testers 1,896 posts 13,916 battles Report post #20 Posted December 19, 2016 Again I agree. T6 with T8 is an issue Ships should not be more than +/- 1 tier unless in a div. A T6 should never be in a battle with an T8. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
145 [K-P-M] Montana_Prussian Members 1,616 posts 18,452 battles Report post #21 Posted December 19, 2016 T6 sees up to T8. Happens all the time. Nothing to see here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,478 [HINON] renegadestatuz Members 7,656 posts 9,539 battles Report post #22 Posted December 19, 2016 Again I agree. T6 with T8 is an issue Ships should not be more than +/- 1 tier unless in a div. A T6 should never be in a battle with an T8. No. Just no. Do you realize how many ships in the game would get a giant nerf bat to the head if they change the mm to this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #23 Posted December 19, 2016 I see no problem here. Anyone remembers how T3 could fight T5? That was intense. But this is not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
762 IceSerpen7 Members 3,959 posts 7,738 battles Report post #24 Posted December 19, 2016 No. Just no. Do you realize how many ships in the game would get a giant nerf bat to the head if they change the mm to this. PSA: Most folks who post suggestions don't bother with contemplating the full extent of the implications. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3 [O-M-G] zilvar Beta Testers 65 posts 7,564 battles Report post #25 Posted December 19, 2016 No. Just no. Do you realize how many ships in the game would get a giant nerf bat to the head if they change the mm to this. No. Not in the slightest. Enlighten me please. IF we operate under the assumption that the tiers are (somewhat) balanced within themselves (a reasonable game design goal) then your statement does not follow at all as far as I can determine. So do tell, please, what specific ships are nerfed if they are not exposed to +/- 2 matchmaking, and WHY are they nerfed. Specifically. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
