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[RoundsDownRange]

 

Soviet Destroyer Branch Update:

 

We're happy to highlight the history of the Russian Navy with an alternate branch of the best Soviet destroyers of the Cold War era. Expect ships like Smelyi, Neustrashimyi and the Project 56 destroyers!

 

Russian DDs? Funny how most ships in game are WW II yet and I quote "best Soviet destroyers of the Cold War era" and then we wonder why the Russian ships do better. Look at the dates of the Russian ships you will find most are modern compared to all the others of the same tier. 

 

Oh that's right, they didn't have a Navy during WWII, and they were infantry fighting in the cities, striping armaments from ships to make field fortifications (nice video by the way WG).

 

Tier 1

Hashidate 1940 IJN

Erie 1939 USA

Orlan 1941 USSR

Hermelin 1939 Germany

Black Swan 1939 UK

 

Tier 5

Furutaka 1926 IJN

Omaha 1923 USA

Kirov 1938 USSR

Konigsberg 1929 Germany

Emerald 1926 UK

 

Tier 8

Mogami 1935 IJN

New Orleans 1934 USA

Chapayev 1950 USSR

Hipper 1939 Germany

Edinburgh 1939 UK

 

Tier 10

Zao 1941 IJN

Des Moines 1948 USA

Moskva 1953 USSR

Hindenburg 1940 Germany

Minotaur 1947 UK

 

Now granted some of these ships were design only and never saw real service but I find it funny that a supposed game which features itself as a WWII era game has to use ships from the “cold war” so they can show their flag.  Yet there are Nations out there like France, Italy, Great Britain and her common wealth allies which are still not in this game.  I wish WG would take a back seat with their National Pride and give the gamer's the Nations that fought WWII at sea and stop with their propaganda fleet.

 

Thank you for reading.  

 

[ckupf]

The ships they chose aren't even that interesting. They are ASW Destroyers with 4 guns and 10 torps. They are far more advanced in terms of radar etc than ships in the game, but for gun ships/ships within this game they are boring.

[ClockworkSpectre]

Honestly it kind of looks like they are just pandering to the Russian player base.  It is also probably why we will likely being seeing a Russian BB line that is half Paper ships. 

 

 

[Khafni]

You are right that the Soviet Union did not really have a navy during WWII but they still designed ships with the intent to build them. I am sure these DD (as well as many of their other ships) would have been WWII era if the Soviet Union had the resources to pursue them. Instead, they dusted those plans off after the war and produced WWII quality ships during the '50's where they were already outdated when built..

 

Also, I believe WG has indicated (NFI) that only gun ships would be in the game and that they would not include misslie boats in the tech trees.

[Legendary_Typo]

I don't think WG ever said WoWS was focused around WWII ships... I mean, there's a 19th century ship somewhere, isn't there?

[ClockworkSpectre]

I don't think WG ever said WoWS was focused around WWII ships... I mean, there's a 19th century ship somewhere, isn't there?

 

if you are referencing the Mikasa, it was built from 1899-1902, and also entered service in 1902.  But it is a low tier ship, that is little more than a collectors item.  

[RoundsDownRange]

I don't think WG ever said WoWS was focused around WWII ships... I mean, there's a 19th century ship somewhere, isn't there?

 

World of Warships — Naval action MMO, dipping into the world of large-scale sea battles of the first half of the twentieth century. Epic battle for the title of best deployed on the greatest representatives of the era of multi-ton marine giants.

Achieve victory in battle players will help a variety of strategies and a variety of tactical decisions. Sudden ambushes, cunning flanking attacks, open confrontation "head-on" - you will find an ideal way to deliver a decisive blow at the enemy.

To implement tactical diversity World of Warships present several classes of warships including aircraft carriers, capable of having a remote air support; powerful battleships and heavy cruisers, one kind of fear prompts on the enemy; light and nimble destroyers, the most effective in group attacks.

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[mofton]

 

Instead, they dusted those plans off after the war and produced WWII quality ships during the '50's where they were already outdated when built..

Smeliy (project 30bis) - design work started late 1945, completed 1947

Neutrashimy (project 41) - design completed 1949

Project 56 - design about 1951-52

 

All post-war designs.

[Legendary_Typo]

 

World of Warships — Naval action MMO, dipping into the world of large-scale sea battles of the first half of the twentieth century. Epic battle for the title of best deployed on the greatest representatives of the era of multi-ton marine giants.

Achieve victory in battle players will help a variety of strategies and a variety of tactical decisions. Sudden ambushes, cunning flanking attacks, open confrontation "head-on" - you will find an ideal way to deliver a decisive blow at the enemy.

To implement tactical diversity World of Warships present several classes of warships including aircraft carriers, capable of having a remote air support; powerful battleships and heavy cruisers, one kind of fear prompts on the enemy; light and nimble destroyers, the most effective in group attacks.

World of Warships Official Home

 

"first half of the twentieth century" applies up to 1950 though, and while I do admit the destroyers listed break that rule, it's not by a silly amount.

[ramp4ge]

 

"first half of the twentieth century" applies up to 1950 though, and while I do admit the destroyers listed break that rule, it's not by a silly amount.

 

Yet.

 

I mean, World of Tanks has tanks from the late 60s/early 70s now. 

 

So sooner or later we'll be drawing the line at specific technologies, not specific dates. At some point they're going to have to draw a line because of ASMs. 

 

Unless they take a page from the WarThunder playbook and introduce guided missiles...

[hexeris]

So more Russian cold war era ships yet we cant get anymore RN ships in game? Oh well...

[icyplanetnhc]

Cold War? 1950s-era Soviet destroyers? Damn, I want the Forrestal-class carriers then. 

 

[Francois424]

So more Russian cold war era ships yet we cant get anymore RN ships in game? Oh well...

 

^^^

My thoughts exactly.

[LittleWhiteMouse]

More ships is good ships, IMO.

[Francois424]

More ships is good ships, IMO.

 

Of course.  I'm glad to get more stuff.

I'm just a bit tired of UK being given the short end of the stick, is all.

[LittleWhiteMouse]

 

Of course.  I'm glad to get more stuff.

I'm just a bit tired of UK being given the short end of the stick, is all.

 

But UK isn't being given the short end of the stick.  Wargaming is trying to deliver the Royal Navy vessels to the same quality as the other nations but they've hit some snags (either external problems or problems of their own design).  I would much rather that the Royal Navy be delivered properly instead of some half baked rendition that adds nothing to the game.  It would be easy to do the Royal Navy wrong, I think we can all agree.  Wargaming's delivery of the British Cruisers was rather disappointing.  They mustn't mishandle their destroyers and especially their battleships.

[Wolcott]

I wish WG would take a back seat with their National Pride and give the gamer's the Nations that fought WWII at sea and stop with their propaganda fleet.

 

Well with Russia currently at war on two fronts Lesta is obligated to prioritise on Soviet warships to promote nationalism among the RU playerbase. Wouldn't want the KGB accusing Lesta of being unpatriotic. That would be bad for business.

 

 

But UK isn't being given the short end of the stick.  Wargaming is trying to deliver the Royal Navy vessels to the same quality as the other nations but they've hit some snags (either external problems or problems of their own design).  I would much rather that the Royal Navy be delivered properly instead of some half baked rendition that adds nothing to the game.  It would be easy to do the Royal Navy wrong, I think we can all agree.  Wargaming's delivery of the British Cruisers was rather disappointing.  They mustn't mishandle their destroyers and especially their battleships.

 

I hope one of those snags doesn't include ship plans, because we can find them online. http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/104978-plan-of-hms-queen-mary-rn-battlecruiser/

[mofton]

But UK isn't being given the short end of the stick. 

 

It kind of is, the RN CL were... well as no ETA was out it would be unfair to say 'late' but it was rather late in 2016, and a long time after the sneak peek that they came out. When they did come, they came out 'disappointing' as you say - by which I mean too gimmicky, UP up to T5 and then possibly OP but one dimensional from T6 onwards with features which stretch my disbelief a little much (T9-T10 yo-yo heal).

 

The RN have at least as much historic precedent to be in game as the German lines but as of this month we'll be at 3 German lines to 1 British and as of early next year we'll be at 2.5 Russian lines to 1 British. Are they really 1/3 as deserving as the German ships?

 

 

On the basis that they may well be disappointing anyway, might as well have them sooner and disappointing than later and still disappointing. From Sub_Octavian's latest community interaction on Reddit RN BB's are in the 3D design phase. It's going to be a while...

[CybrSlydr]

 

Yet.

 

I mean, World of Tanks has tanks from the late 60s/early 70s now. 

 

So sooner or later we'll be drawing the line at specific technologies, not specific dates. At some point they're going to have to draw a line because of ASMs. 

 

Unless they take a page from the WarThunder playbook and introduce guided missiles...

 

That's the main reason why I don't play WOT anymore.

 

This ridiculous MM where you have Tiger Is vs Pattons, M103s, WZs, etc.  These post-war/cold war designs killed the game.

[LoneStormchaser]

You are right that the Soviet Union did not really have a navy during WWII but they still designed ships with the intent to build them.

 

..........

 

If we are going to use ships from the cold war era, then that means the Battleships will become obsolete, at least under the US flag.

[JediMasterDraco]

Personally I think the idea of adding more game modes has merit. Currently, the only battle mode is what essentially amounts to a fleet engagement, and anyone with a brain will tell you that cruisers kept as far away from those as possible. What cruisers usually engaged in were small-scale engagements (like the numerous battles around Guadalcanal) or attacked a target with numbers on their side (the Scharnhorst's final battle). What also doesn't help is that some nations went for quality over quantity (namely Japan and Germany) to make up for a lack of resources. Thus in an even numbers match-up, Axis ships usually dominate their opponents. My final hope is that they will eventually find some way to effectively institute CVs. Considering how in-game CVs fight compared to their real-life counterparts, it's safe to say that Russia is apparently still bitter about never being able to build a proper fleet carrier.