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Allied Yamato (with 13k hp) was about to be dead from an enemy Gearing torp spread and asked to be scuttled before the torps hit him and kill him. Allied Yamato was broadside to and inadvertently blocked the spread for my Monty and did a volley and scuttled him and some randoms in the enemy team BM'd for "stealing" points and preventing them from earning more exp and then proceeded to attack the clan and some of the members that was not even in game. Are they right?

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I'm afraid that I would have to agree with Brohk on this one. Not cool, if your gonna die, give the enemy player/team the credit it deserves on that kill.

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Scumbag move. 

 

and 100% bannable.

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what for? for preventing the enemy team from killing the allied yammy even tho its his choice? in WW2 its been done plenty of times to prevent the enemy from getting anything from it. Yeah the advantage that MY teamside got from it stopped him from moving when he scuttled and Ate all the torps and saved my monty, that was the tactical side of my decision for shooting him.

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Allied Yamato (with 13k hp) was about to be dead from an enemy Gearing torp spread and asked to be scuttled before the torps hit him and kill him. Allied Yamato was broadside to and inadvertently blocked the spread for my Monty and did a volley and scuttled him and some randoms in the enemy team BM'd for "stealing" points and preventing them from earning more exp and then proceeded to attack the clan and some of the members that was not even in game. Are they right?

 

I was just looking into this (I had that Gearing).

 

What really bugs me, though it shouldn't, is that they both reported me (I shouldn't care; I know karma doesn't mean anything. But. I want to be a good teammate and a good sport, so I take that number more seriously than I should). Which is dumb; I'm not even the one who brought the subject up in [ALL] chat. And I wasn't that worked up about it; I think its a [edited]move, but at this point its not like I'm living and dying by 50k credits or 500xp. I didn't even have much to say about the whole thing. They asked what the problem was, and I basically said some things to the effect that I thought it was poor sportsmanship, and they seemed to just lose there crap. And keep going on about how it was :"his choice" which seems a pretty impressive case of point missing.

 

But yeah, this is a [edited]thing to do, right? I mean I don't think I'm just pissed because it happened to me, I don't think.  

 

And I'd hate to see it become standard; it is not THAT big a deal at T10, at least right now. But if it had happened when I was still climbing up my first line, and desperately needed every bit of credits and xp I could get (and when those perfect shots were still so rare, and such a rush, cause I still hadn't quite figured out how to play, and those successes felt hard to come by and almost magical) , I think I'd have taken it a lot harder.

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i did not report any1. if i wanted to report any1 itd be that Bismark who BM'd my clan when they werent even part of any of this

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what for? for preventing the enemy team from killing the allied yammy even tho its his choice? in WW2

 

Let me stop you right there, this isn't WWII and this isn't a simulator. 

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you will turn pink if you TK regardless of HP. 

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what for? for preventing the enemy team from killing the allied yammy even tho its his choice? in WW2 its been done plenty of times to prevent the enemy from getting anything from it. Yeah the advantage that MY teamside got from it stopped him from moving when he scuttled and Ate all the torps and saved my monty, that was the tactical side of my decision for shooting him.

 

1) No, it didn't. Because a) I still put a torp into you from that salvo, and b) you did it maybe 2 seconds before the hit; the Yamy would have blocked them either way.

 

2) That certainly isn't what you said at the time.

 

Beyond that: As I said, I didn't bring it up. I thought it was [edited]-- really, what i thought was it was weird -- and when you started trying to justify it, I thought it was pathetic. But that didn't ruin my experience, or my day.

 

But the [edited]and moaning and lashing out in chat? That made me pissed, in that futile, I should know-better way. That made me frustrated, and made my hate myself for playing a bit, and hate people a bit more, and made my night go out on a low note. The TK? Fine, whatever. The attitude? Yeah, that made my night worse. So you have that little accomplishment to take home and warm you in the night. I hope you're as pleased with yourself about that as you will no-doubt claim to be, and that you enjoy hurling the abuse that your past history suggests you will, in response to this.

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what for? for preventing the enemy team from killing the allied yammy even tho its his choice? in WW2 its been done plenty of times to prevent the enemy from getting anything from it. Yeah the advantage that MY teamside got from it stopped him from moving when he scuttled and Ate all the torps and saved my monty, that was the tactical side of my decision for shooting him.

 

Damaging a teammate is not allowed. Period.

 

4. Inappropriate conduct in game / Fair play principles

The following actions are prohibited in game:

 

4.01. Intentionally damaging vehicles belonging to a player on the same team (team damage).

 

4.02. Intentionally destroying vehicles belonging to a player on the same team (team kill).

 

4.03. Intentionally blocking (blocking from front and rear) vehicles belonging to a player on the same team.

 

4.04. Intentionally propping (blocking on one side, where the other side of a user's vehicle touches a fixed indestructible obstacle, preventing free movement.) vehicles belonging to a player on

the same team.

 

4.05. Intentionally informing participants of the opposing team through battle, or voice chat, the location of vehicles belonging to players of the same team.

 

4.06. Intentionally exploiting the physics system to damage an allied tank, plane, ship or similar actions. This includes, but is not limited to, pushing an allied tank into line of fire, pushing allied tanks off of cliffs, bridges, into water, etc.

 

4.07. Using bots, clickers, macros, keyboard and mouse recorders, or any other similar methods to accumulate credits and experience without the participation or with passive participation of the player within the battle. (Excessive and repetitive passive play)

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1) No, it didn't. Because a) I still put a torp into you from that salvo, and b) you did it maybe 2 seconds before the hit; the Yamy would have blocked them either way.

 

2) That certainly isn't what you said at the time.

 

Beyond that: As I said, I didn't bring it up. I thought it was [edited]-- really, what i thought was it was weird -- and when you started trying to justify it, I thought it was pathetic. But that didn't ruin my experience, or my day.

 

But the [edited]and moaning and lashing out in chat? That made me pissed, in that futile, I should know-better way. That made me frustrated, and made my hate myself for playing a bit, and hate people a bit more, and made my night go out on a low note. The TK? Fine, whatever. The attitude? Yeah, that made my night worse. So you have that little accomplishment to take home and warm you in the night. I hope you're as pleased with yourself about that as you will no-doubt claim to be, and that you enjoy hurling the abuse that your past history suggests you will, in response to this.

 

Here's what I say. Take your replay and put in a support ticket. TKing is a bannable offense, and if he was being so caustic in chat, well, that's against the rules too. Either way, letting WG sort it out is probably the right thing to do.

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what for? for preventing the enemy team from killing the allied yammy even tho its his choice? in WW2 its been done plenty of times to prevent the enemy from getting anything from it. Yeah the advantage that MY teamside got from it stopped him from moving when he scuttled and Ate all the torps and saved my monty, that was the tactical side of my decision for shooting him.

 

Players in a game are not analogous to enemies in war.  Denying an opposing player of economic rewards is not the same thing as denying them victory or tactical advantage.  What you're describing is spiteful poor sportsmanship.

 

Total scumbag move.

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Winning > "Sportsmanship" in a game personally but even not dead he would have still blocked the Torps. If it wasn't the difference in a win or loss it shouldn't matter other than turning you pink. 

Being a bad "sport"  in wg games would be scuttling your own cv, drowning in the Arty to prevent them getting xp on a sure loss. Anything to win is fair game imo. 

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what for? for preventing the enemy team from killing the allied yammy even tho its his choice? in WW2 its been done plenty of times 

 

Invalid, invalid 100% invalid. A ship cannot become 100% combat incapable in this game without sinking, and to 'scuttle' a friendly in this game would be the same thing in real life of scutting the USS enterprise when her flight deck got shattered by a bomb. She was still capable of sailing and getting away but by your lack of logic it'd be ok for her escort to scuttle her. 

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what for? for preventing the enemy team from killing the allied yammy even tho its his choice? in WW2 its been done plenty of times to prevent the enemy from getting anything from it. Yeah the advantage that MY teamside got from it stopped him from moving when he scuttled and Ate all the torps and saved my monty, that was the tactical side of my decision for shooting him.

 

 

No. In real life, forces would scuttle a ship to prevent the enemy from CAPTURING it. There is no capturing in this game. There is no concept of scuttling, just team killing. Sounds like the Yamato player was probably one of those people that have zero business playing tier 10. I see them from time to time. Low battle count, horrible win rate, low damage done. 

 

There is zero reason to ever TK someone. Making up some 'scuttle' [edited]is simple that. [edited].

 

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So I guess this is the warships version of artillery drowning themselves in World of Tanks?

 

Naw. In WoWS that is when a CV sinks himself with his own planes. I have seen them do it before. And they were not the last one alive or anything and we were winning.

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The snowflake generation is just incapable of accepting defeat.  So they will kill themselves in a lame attempt to assert a moral victory.  Really it just makes them idiots.

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Exploiting game mechanics to win should be a punishable offense. Not sure if WG would actual do anything about it though.

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