USN Cruiser Split in 2017?

[Adm_Nate_Ellis937]

Here is a good possibility:

 

CL:

6. Cleveland

7. Brooklyn

8. Oakland

9. Fargo

10. Worcester

 

CA:

6. Pensacola

7. Northampton

8. New Orleans

9. Baltimore

10. Buffalo (a Des Moines with an extra turret and torpedoes, her files are in the client)

 

Thoughts?

[renegadestatuz]

Here is a good possibility:

 

CL:

6. Cleveland

7. Brooklyn

8. Oakland

9. Fargo

10. Worcester

 

CA:

6. Pensacola

7. Northampton

8. New Orleans

9. Baltimore

10. Buffalo (a Des Moines with an extra turret and torpedoes, her files are in the client)

 

Thoughts?

 

The devs have said multiple times that a USN cruiser split is not going to happen in the foreseeable as they don't see the necessity in doing so from a gameplay point of view. Basically saying they don't see a point in it and don't see and value for the game in doing so for the moment.

[SCygnus]

They came out and said USN Cruisers are doing fine not too long ago.  But let's add some cold war RU DDs!

[SireneRacker]

I think that Des Moines does fine at T10. She has that typical AA flavor and a nasty reload combined with the good AP shells.

[MVPBluntman]

the problem is that, currently there is no role diversity across classification of ships, there is role diversity off individual ships however, but yes I agree at some point and time a cruiser split should be done because light cruisers for screens and heavy cruisers for fire support.

 

too bad WGNA is too focused on adding cold war era destroyers who's only opponents are mainly Guided Missile Destroyers other than the WW2 era vessels that were casually upgraded.... MOAR DESTROYERS!!!! Dont worry IJN DD's just receive less of a stick and more of a shaft than anyone else.

[Lonewolfpj]

you are missing the Wichita.  

[NimitsTexan]

They came out and said USN Cruisers are doing fine not too long ago.  But let's add some cold war RU DDs!

 

Yeah, I get liking your own nation's hardware, but this is sort of ridiculous, prioritizing fictional and post-war ships over stuff from major naval powers that actually sailed.

 

Plus, I got a bad feeling these post-war RU DDs will be a little more "balanced" than the IJN split line . . .

[renegadestatuz]

 

Yeah, I get liking your own nation's hardware, but this is sort of ridiculous, prioritizing fictional and post-war ships over stuff from major naval powers that actually sailed.

 

Plus, I got a bad feeling these post-war RU DDs will be a little more "balanced" than the IJN split line . . .

 

Good thing they're not just getting a line split then lol. Octavian said for 2017, the RU tree is getting the DD line split, and then a second full DD line as well during the year. So by the end of 2017, the RU tree will have 2 and a half DD lines. Lots of new Russian DDs for everyone! Lol

[MexicanPanda]

Cleveland is supposed to be a tier 8, so I would suggest changing the line up to take that into account. Also, the Buffalo is supposedly going to be a reward ship, or hopefully she will be sold for free xp.

[NimitsTexan]

 

Good thing they're not just getting a line split then lol. Octavian said for 2017, the RU tree is getting the DD line split, and then a second full DD line as well during the year. So by the end of 2017, the RU tree will have 2 and a half DD lines. Lots of new Russian DDs for everyone! Lol

 

Okay. That is just silly, people. Stop it.

[Zehroflcopter]

Here is a good possibility:

 

CL:

6. Cleveland

7. Brooklyn

8. Oakland

9. Fargo

10. Worcester

 

CA:

6. Pensacola

7. Northampton

8. New Orleans

9. Baltimore

10. Buffalo (a Des Moines with an extra turret and torpedoes, her files are in the client)

 

Thoughts?

 

>des moines with torpedoes

 

goodbye USN meta

[renegadestatuz]

 

Okay. That is just silly, people. Stop it.

 

Don't forget that they're also getting a BB line in 2017. Q said to start looking for them around spring. Going to be a very Russian heavy year lol.

[wadavid]

 

Good thing they're not just getting a line split then lol. Octavian said for 2017, the RU tree is getting the DD line split, and then a second full DD line as well during the year. So by the end of 2017, the RU tree will have 2 and a half DD lines. Lots of new Russian DDs for everyone! Lol

 

Suits me just fine.

[iHaveNoIntelligence]

 

The devs have said multiple times that a USN cruiser split is not going to happen in the foreseeable as they don't see the necessity in doing so from a gameplay point of view. Basically saying they don't see a point in it and don't see and value for the game in doing so for the moment.

 

At the same time you also forgot that Devs said there will be a large sub branch 2017 beside the VMF DD split

[Phoenix_jz]

Pepsicola at tier VI? Me thinks not. I'm actually working on a detailed thread about a USN split, I just need to find a better option for a Tier VI CL than the placeholder I have now. As far as CA's are concerned...

I'm throwing out Pepsicola... And no, that's not just because I'm a coke person!

[renegadestatuz]

 

At the same time you also forgot that Devs said there will be a large sub branch 2017 beside the VMF DD split

 

I read that it was going to be a USN BB sub branch. Would would make sense seeing as they're going to be selling the regular Alabama premium soon/at a later time. Would make sense seeing as the SD class would clearly end up in the BB sub branch or new line, and they could sell her along side the line release or just before to get people pumped up for the line.

[iHaveNoIntelligence]

 

I read that it was going to be a USN BB sub branch. Would would make sense seeing as they're going to be selling the regular Alabama premium soon/at a later time. Would make sense seeing as the SD class would clearly end up in the BB sub branch or new line, and they could sell her along side the line release or just before to get people pumped up for the line.

 

That's also a possibility. Well in the end we will see but don't forget WG also changes their word very often...

[renegadestatuz]

 

That's also a possibility. Well in the end we will see but don't forget WG also changes their word very often...

 

This is very true.

[WanderingGhost]

 

Don't forget that they're also getting a BB line in 2017. Q said to start looking for them around spring. Going to be a very Russian heavy year lol.

 

Cause we can't get another CV line to mix it up while waiting hopefully for an overhaul. 5 cruiser lines, soon 4 DD lines, 3 BB lines, theres an easy as hell UK CV line they can add in without really going to a ton of paper and what if's, maybe one at the top in the Malta Class. Or y'know, fill out that UK tree at least with some BB's.

 

Here is a good possibility:

 

CL:

6. Cleveland

7. Brooklyn

8. Oakland

9. Fargo

10. Worcester

 

CA:

6. Pensacola

7. Northampton

8. New Orleans

9. Baltimore

10. Buffalo (a Des Moines with an extra turret and torpedoes, her files are in the client)

 

Thoughts?

 

Crazy as it may sound, I'd swap Brooklyn to 6, Oakland to 7, Cleveland to 8. Using the ships that you have there. They nerfed Cleveland to fit tier and it has not worked, particularly to the bane of CV's (tier 9 AA guns at tier 6 - even better idea than tier 9 planes at tier 7). Oakland is a slightly different Atlanta, Brooklyn especially depending on the upgrades it gets and all there first and while it may have more guns, give it the lower RoF and range for them and what not, with the Cleveland getting the higher RoF and better elevation version, as well as likely more accurate.

 

Overall though, with the list you have, I'd say screw it and basically go straight up the Brooklyn-Class development line, in order so Brooklyn, St. Louis, Cleveland, Fargo, Worcester. But then again I'm a sucker for tech trees following actually development progression (yes, I'm the mad man that'd find a way to put Lex in the lower tiers, it's not impossible - especially with numbers that Wargaming already fudges).

[Phoenix_jz]

We are getting a British CV in 2017. It was confirmed in a Q&A

[renegadestatuz]

 

Cause we can't get another CV line to mix it up while waiting hopefully for an overhaul. 5 cruiser lines, soon 4 DD lines, 3 BB lines, theres an easy as hell UK CV line they can add in without really going to a ton of paper and what if's, maybe one at the top in the Malta Class. Or y'know, fill out that UK tree at least with some BB's.

 

 

Crazy as it may sound, I'd swap Brooklyn to 6, Oakland to 7, Cleveland to 8. Using the ships that you have there. They nerfed Cleveland to fit tier and it has not worked, particularly to the bane of CV's (tier 9 AA guns at tier 6 - even better idea than tier 9 planes at tier 7). Oakland is a slightly different Atlanta, Brooklyn especially depending on the upgrades it gets and all there first and while it may have more guns, give it the lower RoF and range for them and what not, with the Cleveland getting the higher RoF and better elevation version, as well as likely more accurate.

 

Overall though, with the list you have, I'd say screw it and basically go straight up the Brooklyn-Class development line, in order so Brooklyn, St. Louis, Cleveland, Fargo, Worcester. But then again I'm a sucker for tech trees following actually development progression (yes, I'm the mad man that'd find a way to put Lex in the lower tiers, it's not impossible - especially with numbers that Wargaming already fudges).

 

Octavian confirmed that we are getting the RN CV line in 2017, bit it should be released around the same time as the overhaul. Also will be getting an IJN tier 7 premium CV in 2017 as well.

[crzyhawk]

Pepsicola at tier VI? Me thinks not. I'm actually working on a detailed thread about a USN split, I just need to find a better option for a Tier VI CL than the placeholder I have now. As far as CA's are concerned...

I'm throwing out Pepsicola... And no, that's not just because I'm a coke person!

 

the best is the 9 gun atlanta design study.  I've posted it before.

 

People need to stop saying P'cola wouldnt work at t6.  it would fight the EXACT SAME SHIPS IT DOES NOW, except no t9s.  It's not going to be kicking t4's around folks, it's literally the same ships that it's not slapping around now.

[Adm_Nate_Ellis937]

Whats everyones thoughts on the Northampton class? From my PoV, she'd have better concealment/guns/and armor than Peps, but slightly worse handling. Remember: the Portland class was a beefed up Northampton with automatic AA guns, and a revised hull. It would be interesting to see Northampton have torpedoes.

[VTAdmiral]

 

the best is the 9 gun atlanta design study.  I've posted it before.

 

People need to stop saying P'cola wouldnt work at t6.  it would fight the EXACT SAME SHIPS IT DOES NOW, except no t9s.  It's not going to be kicking t4's around folks, it's literally the same ships that it's not slapping around now.

 

It is still also heavily hampered by its detection range. It has more guns, but it still does less damage than Furutaka on average per game.

[Phoenix_jz]

Whats everyones thoughts on the Northampton class? From my PoV, she'd have better concealment/guns/and armor than Peps, but slightly worse handling. Remember: the Portland class was a beefed up Northampton with automatic AA guns, and a revised hull. It would be interesting to see Northampton have torpedoes.

 

She's actually my pick for tier VII as well. However, I've stayed away from torpedoes for all my USN CA picks, just because I don't think it works well with their style.