71 [-WD-] Rub_My_Cit_BB Members 307 posts 16,919 battles Report post #1 Posted December 14, 2016 Good afternoon sailors! I know this is a ship that has been talked about, but I'm going to have to bring the conversation back to life. As a fairly new player I've really gotten into the game. I originally was a big WoT fan, but after dicovoring WoWs 5 months ago I haven't been able to put it down. Today, I'd like to bring to your attention to the Allen M. Sumner Class Destroyer. Succeeded by the Gearing class, I personally think the USS Allen M. Sumner would make a good Tier VIII ship. With 6 x 5" guns, 12 x 40mm Bofors AA guns, 11 x 20mm Oerlikon cannons, and 10 x 21" torpedo Tubes, This class would be a great balanced ship. (On a side blurb, It would be cool if it could have radar since the USS Sumners was primarily used as a radar picket). Another reason I'd love to see this ship in the game is because my grandfather served on the USS Zellars (DD-777). With that being said, all of the Allen M. Sumner class destroyers have history, and I'm actually quite surprised we haven't seen this class in the game already! If you agree or disagree please let me know. Also, If you have any further input or suggestions I'm interested in hearing! Thank you for the read and I'll see you on the battlefield! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
195 [KMK] richie_macrophage Members 952 posts 4,986 battles Report post #2 Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) What about tier 9? Anyways I would like to see the Allen M Sumner in game. Edited December 14, 2016 by TitanicMan2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,287 [WG-CC] SireneRacker -Members-, Members 9,101 posts 8,050 battles Report post #3 Posted December 14, 2016 Tier 8 seems to low to me. I picture her similar to the Gearing which already is T10. So T9 at least if you ask me. T10 when you were serious on that radar part. And that should come at the cost of the smoke screen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
125 Mexicanarmada15 Members 712 posts 5,239 battles Report post #4 Posted December 14, 2016 Or, or just hear me out here..... USS Black 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
227 devastator5000 Members 1,719 posts 4,106 battles Report post #5 Posted December 14, 2016 Yeah the Sumner Class would be cool, T8 however I don't think so. The Sumner was an upgrade to the Fletcher on par with the Gearing at T8 she would not fit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,562 [SYN] Kapitan_Wuff Members 8,292 posts 14,496 battles Report post #6 Posted December 14, 2016 Seems closer to a T9 to me. Personally really want them to finally release the USS Black. I am already starting to save my FXP again after unlocking the Missouri (I kinda think that if/when they release the Black it will be like with the Missouri) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71 [-WD-] Rub_My_Cit_BB Members 307 posts 16,919 battles Report post #7 Posted December 15, 2016 T8 just seems most reasonable to me. Just because the Missouri is a T9 I dont think WG is just going to start popping out T9 (or T10) premium ships. As it does make sense as a T9 since it replaced the Fletcher, I just cant see another T9 premium in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
68 [-K_P-] CG59 Members 545 posts 3,883 battles Report post #8 Posted December 16, 2016 T9 b/c of reduced speed and lack of smoke for radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
815 [VVV] Lord_Magus Members 3,246 posts 5,521 battles Report post #9 Posted December 17, 2016 Fletcher is T9 and Gearing is T10. How do you expect a ship intermediate between Fletcher & Gearing to be anything less than T9? Well I suppose if you use a Sumner in late-war configuration with only 1x5 torps (and no torp reload boost like Akizuki) that could maybe be T8 material, since in WOWS the extra AA is less useful to a DD than extra torps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,849 [AXANR] poeticmotion Members 3,650 posts 23,502 battles Report post #10 Posted December 28, 2016 Let's just move Fletcher to T8 (without nerfs) and make this the t9. Legit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71 [-WD-] Rub_My_Cit_BB Members 307 posts 16,919 battles Report post #11 Posted December 29, 2016 (edited) Edited December 29, 2016 by Matt_II Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71 [-WD-] Rub_My_Cit_BB Members 307 posts 16,919 battles Report post #12 Posted December 29, 2016 Fletcher is T9 and Gearing is T10. How do you expect a ship intermediate between Fletcher & Gearing to be anything less than T9? Well I suppose if you use a Sumner in late-war configuration with only 1x5 torps (and no torp reload boost like Akizuki) that could maybe be T8 material, since in WOWS the extra AA is less useful to a DD than extra torps. T9 b/c of reduced speed and lack of smoke for radar. Seems closer to a T9 to me. Personally really want them to finally release the USS Black. I am already starting to save my FXP again after unlocking the Missouri (I kinda think that if/when they release the Black it will be like with the Missouri) Thanks for the feedback everyone! I made a new thread with a new proposal here: http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/109730-new-usn-dd-tech-line-proposal-ix-x-only/page__p__2676608#entry2676608 BLUF: Allen M Sumners class as a Tier IX, and Mitscher class as a Tier X Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
52 [VIRUS] premiermiller Alpha Tester 147 posts 1,853 battles Report post #13 Posted January 2, 2017 I'm pretty sure way back in Alpha days they mentioned a Fletcher with a Float Plane being a tier 8 premium possibility. It would lose number 3 turret and rear torpedo launcher for the catapult. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
