Horrible Matchmaking. only can play tier 7 or tier 10

[FrozenPyjak]

I don't like complaining, but I honestly feel like WG has absolutely destroyed the game. after making it so only tiers 1-4 only face 1 tier up and below, it forced tiers 5 and 6 to almost always be bottom tier. and now that WG has cut costs on tier 10s via fixed costs, discounts on repairs, and now the camo. Tier 10s have become extremely dominate in the game. so now tier 8 and tier 9 usually always get up tiered. 

 

sure this is nice for tier 7s and tier 10, but it has become near impossible to grind new ships through tier 5,6,8,9 because you are always up tiered and become nothing more then cannon fodder. I agree tier 10s need discounts but this is ridiculous, you can hardly play ships at at those tiers. I used to love taking my arizona, Texas, Cleveland, NC, and tirpitz out, but now its not even worth trying to grind for credits .

 

I would rather it would go back to the old system and lose money at high tiers then deal with what is going on right now. 

[The_first_harbinger]

To be fair many ships have nice tricks up their sleeves to puch above their weight class...

It could be hard, but WG won't change the current status anytime soon.

Dealwithit^TM I would say. Platooning always helps.

Since the flood of tier7s into the cue, personally I got some rockin' MM with my Iowa, Bismarck and Miku...

It's not bad news entirely, having to fight against Nagatos and Scharnhorsts in my Konigsberg is really effective as a shell doging practice...

[Grevester]

I would rather it would go back to the old system and lose money at high tiers then deal with what is going on right now. 

Lol, the beauty of hindsight for all those people that wanted tier 10 to not be expensive.

While tier 10 can never be fixed directly anymore since changing anything would affect the reason people bought the camo in the first place (like how they do not nerf premium ships) I hope all the people that suggested methods for making 10's not a credit losing game understand the result of their poor ideas for it.

[AVR_Project]

I just got out of a Tier 7 match in my tier 5 Krasny Krym.

It was tough..   A Cleveland and Atlanta ganged up on me and I only had time to burn down the Cleveland and part of the Atlanta before they got me.

Got an 'Arsonist'.

There was also a Schoors in there, but he withdrew after a while.  I only got a couple hits on him.

We won because they chased me away from the caps.  Meanwhile our DDs were running rampant, taking caps and killing Battleships.

I came in third place on my team.  Yes, it was Random.

[Skpstr]

Lol, the beauty of hindsight for all those people that wanted tier 10 to not be expensive.

 

As I've said before, when it comes to WG, be careful what you ask for, you just might get it....

 

TBH though, the change suits me fine. My highest ships are Tier 7s, (have 6, more than any other tier) and I get to play the crap out of them now without worrying about seeing Tier 9s too often, or making squat for credits on a meh game.

[yashma]

Am I the only one who doesn't pay much attention to the enemy's tier and just have fun with out even noticing I'm bottom fodder?

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Am I the only one who doesn't pay much attention to the enemy's tier and just have fun with out even noticing I'm bottom fodder?

 

It depends.  The Tier VII-IX can fight just as fine for whatever tiers they can be down tiered into.  I do not fear Tier IX BBs with Tier VII Scharnhorst.  Tier VIII BBs can tangle with the X's but still have to be careful.

 

OTOH, those constantly down tiered ships facing Tier VII, VIII ships isn't as fun.  Examples:

 

New York / TX / Konig vs Scharnhorst.  "What was that bump?"  That was a slow Tier V BB that just got run over by Scharnhorst.

 

Scharnhorst seeing those precious little Tier V Cruisers!  How cute and tasty!

 

356mm BBs facing off with 406mm/410mm BBs.  406/410mm shells LOLPENCIT even the traditionally tough bow-on Tier VI BBs like Warspite, Arizona.  AZ, Warspite can face tank with ease against 356mm AP, but those 406mm/410mm AP shells will rip through them easily.

 

Granted, this has always been possible even with the older MM.  But the older MM didn't constantly put Tier V-VI as Roadkill for VII & VIII all the time, either.  If you're that Tier VII, VIII, then MM is GREAT!  If you're that Tier V-VI, that's not necessarily true.  The funny part is WG knows this, and is perfectly fine with it.

[The_first_harbinger]

Granted, this has always been possible even with the older MM.  But the older MM didn't constantly put Tier V-VI as Roadkill for VII & VIII all the time, either.  If you're that Tier VII, VIII, then MM is GREAT!  If you're that Tier V-VI, that's not necessarily true.  The funny part is WG knows this, and is perfectly fine with it.

It's pretty reasonable. Remeber the tier 7 ships a few patches before? Trollolato and Lolpengato, Yorck with unbearable turret shift, Pepsicola which eats every overpen as citadels, Tier 7 was the least played tier across the server.

 

356mm BBs facing off with 406mm/410mm BBs.  406/410mm shells LOLPENCIT even the traditionally tough bow-on Tier VI BBs like Warspite, Arizona.  AZ, Warspite can face tank with ease against 356mm AP, but those 406mm/410mm AP shells will rip through them easily.

Keep in mind the tier7s can get lolpened by their own gun, even 15inchers from one tier lower, oh, except German bbs can't be citadeled 

[Decidis]

 

356mm BBs facing off with 406mm/410mm BBs.  406/410mm shells LOLPENCIT even the traditionally tough bow-on Tier VI BBs like Warspite, Arizona.  AZ, Warspite can face tank with ease against 356mm AP, but those 406mm/410mm AP shells will rip through them easily.

 

Granted, this has always been possible even with the older MM.  But the older MM didn't constantly put Tier V-VI as Roadkill for VII & VIII all the time, either.  If you're that Tier VII, VIII, then MM is GREAT!  If you're that Tier V-VI, that's not necessarily true.  The funny part is WG knows this, and is perfectly fine with it.

 

 

Which is why I never play my Arizona in the evenings (US Eastern). For whatever reason, it's much more likely that in the mornings I'll be mid or top tier in my AZ, while in the evenings I'll always be bottom tier. I've had quite a few matches with 5 BB's per side, and they're 3 T8, 1 T7, and 1 T6 (me). Every salvo from a T8 one shell will land for a pen, it doesn't matter what angle I'm at. On top of that, all other nations BB's (besides US) have the "Atlantic bow" from T7 onward. Which means I'll be unable to keep a stand off range should the side I initially pick in the beginning has multiple T8 BB's heading that way. 

 

Then again, when I'm top or even mid tier in the AZ I usually do fairly well. So it's a trade off I guess. I just wish MM went back to how it used to be, I never play any tiers below 7 anymore since the change. T5 vs T7?? LOL get out of here. 

[murdock762]

I realize this topic has been discussed on a number of posts.  I am glad the developers have acknowledged the issue.

 

I suggest that everyone who is unhappy with current MM make a point to include it EVERY time we get a survey from WG. 

 

I am convinced this was the single worst decision effecting the game in 2016.  I never use any of my Tier 5s anymore.  High tier game play has been ruined by new players racing up the tech trees so they are not uptieried every game (I would have done the same thing).  Over the past several weeks I have seen the absolute worst play from my allies and the red fleet.

 

Before the changes the game had a more varied user experience.  Low tiers for the new players.  Mid tiers for casual players. Now a huge number of ships - that used to be fun - are just something to grind through to get a good ship.

 

Now players are forced to level up as quick as possible to try to get through the "pain wall" at Tier 5 and it is ruining the game for everyone. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[LOVESOCK307]

I think it's a little rediculous that a tier 7 and 8 div up together then get put in a tier X match. Surely there's enough population at peak hours to count them as the tier they are instead of both as the highest tier.

[Skpstr]

I think it's a little rediculous that a tier 7 and 8 div up together then get put in a tier X match. Surely there's enough population at peak hours to count them as the tier they are instead of both as the highest tier.

 

Population isn't the point. If it was different, then by divisioning with a one-tier lower ship, you could guarantee you'd never have to be bottom tier. That's the point.

 

People would exploit the heck out of that by using a ship that uptiers well as the lower ship.

[awildseaking]

Actually, I believe that T5 BB have an advantage against T7 CA compared to T7 BB against T5 CA. T7 loses guns as they go up in caliber, ie more overpens. I used to wreck CA in the NM and Fusou, but I've found myself targeting higher tier BB mostly with Nagato and Colorado. They overpen the citadel way too much. I am very accurate with both ships and I regularly land 3-5 citadel overpens that would otherwise have deleted a T8 or T9 CA. They also teach new players to play CA the wrong way because full broadside will overpen while angling results in lolcits. Scharnhorst and Gneisenau are special because they have smaller caliber guns on par with lower tier BB that are suited to deleting CA while also having armor that [edited]over Nagato and Colorado, never mind their cancerous torpedo tubes that make brawling impossible, not that you'll cit them anyways with their trollback armor. Remember, USN and IJN BB have awful armor at T7/T8. You can't just say "baww T5/T6 lower gun caliber WG pls buff."

[Darth_Caedus_]

Anything tier 7 and up I'm fin with, if I play my 7's I'm normally top tier and for my one tier 8 I can handle anything up to tier 10 personally.

 

I feel bad for anyone in the tier 5-6 range and am happy I finished those before the change.