17 [RAZE] ASHAMAN100 Members 82 posts 18,034 battles Report post #1 Posted December 11, 2016 High there all wows players. I love ships, there history and technical facts and are especially fond of naval ships. Therefore I thought that wows would be a great idea for me. However I seem to have no luck with it- almost like i am jinxed. Its now reached the stage where I often cannot even repair my ship and since I am not fortunate enough to invest real money into the game at regular intervals I have to constantly downgrade my ships - in fact almost the only ships I have left are ARPS. I suppose I will or might be called various things [noob - welp etc] but facts are facts. Are there any other standard players out there who has found a way to progress further with this game in an effective way without spending money on it. If so please share your secret of success since I am desperate to find a solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
201 [NEMO] Thraxian [NEMO] Members 823 posts 10,953 battles Report post #2 Posted December 11, 2016 Looking at your stats, with almost 3500 battles, it seems you're missing something vital about the gameplay. I highly suggest going to youtube and watching all the "Help an Ensign" videos. They have a lot of very important information about playing the different types of ships... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,448 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,824 posts 26,939 battles Report post #3 Posted December 11, 2016 - Keep a few tier low tier ships around that you enjoy playing, it's near impossible to lose money on those, so by playing those you'll have a steady income - Random pays more in credits and experience than COOP does - Stay alive and do more damage, you'll earn more credits and do better - Don't be the first one spotted, don't be the easiest target, there's no shame in retreating if you're overextended 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
532 StrykerNC Members 1,664 posts 10,962 battles Report post #4 Posted December 11, 2016 What these guys said^^^ Also, have you looked in to your computer set up? Are you getting lag? How many FPS do you run? Running too high of a graphic setting will effect your game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
201 [NEMO] Thraxian [NEMO] Members 823 posts 10,953 battles Report post #5 Posted December 11, 2016 - Random pays more in credits and experience than COOP does He has 3600 solo battles in random, and only 181 coop battles. I think he needs to work on positioning, aiming and angling, as he is a BB main... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15 anonym_uO7eEzhrDxsi Members 687 posts Report post #6 Posted December 11, 2016 I suffer from low stat syndrome as well. Something that is helping me is working in a division. I hang with a player who enjoys the same ship I do and is more experienced with it. His advice as we play has really helped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [RAZE] ASHAMAN100 Members 82 posts 18,034 battles Report post #7 Posted December 11, 2016 Referring to luckyotter saying graphics settings affects lag on the game - is this true even when my machine can easily handle something like assassins creed syndicate on full graphic settings? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,206 [PVE] Sovereigndawg Members 12,079 posts 21,321 battles Report post #8 Posted December 11, 2016 You tube,You tube,You tube, Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,206 [PVE] Sovereigndawg Members 12,079 posts 21,321 battles Report post #9 Posted December 11, 2016 If you have Nvidia GE force experience let it optimize your graphics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [RAZE] ASHAMAN100 Members 82 posts 18,034 battles Report post #10 Posted December 12, 2016 Well its finally happened - I now only have ARP ships left. Thanks WOWS for these, its the only reason I can still play the game. It took me a while, but I finally figured out why I'm almost always the one to get killed first. I must be wows's father christmas, giving xp, credits and other nice achievements to the players. Face it guys without players like me it would take you longer to progress in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [RAZE] ASHAMAN100 Members 82 posts 18,034 battles Report post #11 Posted December 12, 2016 So whereto now? Got to try and build up some in game credits. Does anyone know where I can get a list of service costs per ship. Ill have to play the ARP ships with the lowest one for a while. I presume its the Tier 5 Kongo ARPS. Maybe I should consider concentrating on ramming for a while. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 ecberk Members 1 post 2,145 battles Report post #12 Posted December 18, 2016 I think we're missing the point. We play in groups/teams, not individually, and the groups that are assigned recently to me seem to be losing all of the time. Is WOWS stacking the deck somehow. Good ratios should be close to 50% wins/loses, which I have maintained in the last year. But recently all of the groups/teams assigned by WOWS for me have been losing consistently with no wins. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
40 sartt Members 407 posts 2,453 battles Report post #13 Posted December 18, 2016 High there all wows players. I love ships, there history and technical facts and are especially fond of naval ships. Therefore I thought that wows would be a great idea for me. However I seem to have no luck with it- almost like i am jinxed. Its now reached the stage where I often cannot even repair my ship and since I am not fortunate enough to invest real money into the game at regular intervals I have to constantly downgrade my ships - in fact almost the only ships I have left are ARPS. I suppose I will or might be called various things [noob - welp etc] but facts are facts. Are there any other standard players out there who has found a way to progress further with this game in an effective way without spending money on it. If so please share your secret of success since I am desperate to find a solution. there's basically nothing you are doing wrong the higher you go the dumber this games economy is, AND ITS NOT YOUR Fault that you lose the game is a team effort so if you lose, 95% of the time its your teams fault. Lemmings who go in 1 direction or VBB.s who sit back and hide behind islands, people like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,092 [TOG] Bill_Halsey Members 4,758 posts 34,565 battles Report post #14 Posted December 18, 2016 Well its finally happened - I now only have ARP ships left. Thanks WOWS for these, its the only reason I can still play the game. It took me a while, but I finally figured out why I'm almost always the one to get killed first. I must be wows's father christmas, giving xp, credits and other nice achievements to the players. Face it guys without players like me it would take you longer to progress in the game. Ok if credits are the problem then I recommend this: Stay in the T5-T7 range like Lert said. You should be turning a profit most of the time even when loosing. When getting containers go for credits and camo. Think about investing in flags at the premium store that emphasizes credits. Find a ship that suits your play style. And try not to die until at least 10 minute mark and you've killed 1 preferably 2 ships. Once you got a 5 mile credit stash think about grinding away to other ships. I would recommend not playing Takao yet. Also you might want too look at the map strategy series. Also this: If it's a bad game, look at what happened and what would you do if happens again. Get into the habit of analyzing your game play. go to you tube for reviews of your ship. If your playing with just stock, your hurting yourself. You need to upgrade. Also premium consumables you want to think about later on.CO skills are another topic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,999 [V_KNG] Herr_Reitz Beta Testers 13,205 posts Report post #15 Posted December 18, 2016 As with most modern games you have to remember to do more than one thing at a time. Minimap: I remember a long time back someone wrote that they check the minimap every few seconds so they have an idea of: Where they are in relationship to the reds Where the closest red threat is located Where the team is positioned And probably most importantly - are they where they want to be? It really, really is worth taking a week's worth of mission time to practice using the minimap. It really is that important (imho). I still find myself, sometimes, forgetting to look. It really is an awesome asset. The ARP ships are great for turning credits to build your bank. I would suggest you stay with the lower tiered Kongo for quite a number of matches. In a BB you can get away with stupid longer than you can a cruiser or destroyer. Trust me - I've been there. Overall key points in any ship: Use the minimap Do not show the broadside of your ship to any red ship that is within range of penetrating it. Look for reds within range of your ship that are showing you their broadside. Generally... point your bow (the front) of your ship at the enemy then turn a few degrees left or right so you are angled. Use your front guns until they start to turn away from you then cut hard, dump a salvo on them and get yourself back to bow on if possible/needed. Look at the minimap. Some of us take longer than others to get better at this game. Trust me, I personally know this. What you can do is turn on your replays, then watch your own matches using replay. You can then figure out what you're doing wrong - and what you're doing right. Finally - when you die, don't leave the match. If there's a ship similar to yours, go ride along with them, watch what they do as compared to what you might do. Don't tell them what to do (i know i know) but just ride along. When/if they die, find another. This really does help one to learn what can and what won't work. All the best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [RAZE] ASHAMAN100 Members 82 posts 18,034 battles Report post #16 Posted May 5, 2017 All of the above are excellent advise and has helped me in one or more ways. However can anyone give me an indication what is an acceptable ping - i'm constantly having a ping ranging from 230 ms to 700 ms or worse causing havoc with my game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,557 [ARP] Kebobs_ Members 2,254 posts 21,638 battles Report post #17 Posted May 6, 2017 All of the above are excellent advise and has helped me in one or more ways. However can anyone give me an indication what is an acceptable ping - i'm constantly having a ping ranging from 230 ms to 700 ms or worse causing havoc with my game. ummm I would say max acceptable is 150 and thats a stretch at that if its gonna be consistent there.... you should expect under 100. Where in the world are you? maybe another server would give better ping or your internet is just too weak for gaming.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17 [RAZE] ASHAMAN100 Members 82 posts 18,034 battles Report post #18 Posted May 6, 2017 My son has no problem using the same internet connection to play "over watch", therefore i don't think its my internet connection. Do I have to use the WOWS NA server? Are there others available and if so how do I connect to them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
4,616 [O_O] desmo_2 Members 7,952 posts 22,567 battles Report post #19 Posted May 6, 2017 I don't pay for premium time, yet I have a port full of ships, multiple Tier 9's and a Tier 10. I'm not flush with credits, as buying and upgrading a Tier 9 is very expensive. However, I typically earn well over 100,000 silver per battle. Sometimes more, sometimes less, depending on tier played and my effectiveness in the game. So, premium time certainly is not necessary. It does make the economy more comfortable, and significantly shortens the grind on ships and accelerates captain experience. I do have several premium ships I have either bought or gotten free, and I play them frequently. That also helps to accelerate captain experience and equals a silver profit. I guess I don't understand how you are having trouble keeping your head above water in the silver category when you have 3,500+ games of experience... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15 [RLGN] _James_T_Kirk Members 165 posts 12,451 battles Report post #20 Posted May 6, 2017 No way you can play with that ping. The lag must be terrible Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
70 Darksaint1071 Members 222 posts 6,098 battles Report post #21 Posted May 6, 2017 I agree with everything that has been said above, but I'd like to add a couple of things: Find a ship nation/class/tier that you are most comfortable with and play it... alot. Learn all you can about it's in-game handling, it's pros & cons and gunnery from Youtube & the WoWS WIKI. Then take it into Co-op battles to practice what you've learned for a while before you go into random battles (your teammates will thank you for this...). Don;t try to race up through the tech-trees to get to Tier X... I've found that the learning curve seems to increase as you progress. Learn all you can about in-game tactics, watch your mini-map to see how the battle starts to develop, and check it frequently. I've found that if I get deleted early on, it's because I'm by myself (usually because I've missed my support turning away) or I'm out of position giving a free broadside to who ever wants it. Play around with some of the lower tiered ships and use them to shore up your finances, it may take a while but they can still be alot of fun. Last, try to find a couple of people you can division up with on a regular basis... knowing who has my back and what they will do (most of the time) has made a difference for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
532 StrykerNC Members 1,664 posts 10,962 battles Report post #22 Posted May 6, 2017 All of the above are excellent advise and has helped me in one or more ways. However can anyone give me an indication what is an acceptable ping - i'm constantly having a ping ranging from 230 ms to 700 ms or worse causing havoc with my game. That ping is horrible, I usually see 45-75 tops... Go to a speed clock website like Ookla... http://www.speedtest.net/ Check your speed. I have played on a connection as low as 20 mbps, while traveling.. At home I clock in at around 69mbps. You should also be seeing at least 12-15 fps as a bare minimum to play this game without play damaging lag. My son has no problem using the same internet connection to play "over watch", therefore i don't think its my internet connection. Do I have to use the WOWS NA server? Are there others available and if so how do I connect to them? Overwatch is produced a different game company, and probably built on a different software platform. Sometimes the developers spend time and effort on "Speed optimization" sometimes they don't. Overwatch probably was streamlined to be ready for console release..Which just happened. No, you don't have to play on the NA server, but if you are here in the US, you might not get any better server connection. I play on the EU server sometimes. Same speed as here on the East Coast US. Also, I connect to the Test Server, which is in St. Petersburg, Russia, at pretty much the same speed as anywhere else. To access the other servers, you will first have to register an account on the server you want to play on. Then you will have to mod your client. Aslain's Mod Pack has one, it's toward the bottom in the miscellaneous section. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,710 [WHIPI] Snoopys_Odyssey Members 1,619 posts 18,992 battles Report post #23 Posted May 7, 2017 I have a satellite internet connection with a ping rate around 375-450. The game plays fine, but not perfect. My rounds are hitting where I aim them to go. I could probably do better with a better internet connection (not an option for me), but lag is not bad enough for me to not enjoy the game. I still do good with occasional greatness (and the more often occasional flops). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 Bigsandwich Members 10 posts Report post #24 Posted May 7, 2017 I am always with stronger ships. so if I sink one ship in 3 games ? wow to much fun. I can not have good stats. It must be I have high ranking commander. I don't spend any more money on the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1 Bigsandwich Members 10 posts Report post #25 Posted May 7, 2017 I am always with stronger ships. so if I sink one ship in 3 games ? wow to much fun. I can not have good stats. It must be I have high ranking commander. I don't spend any more money on the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites