Not so excited about the Graf Spee

[MexicanPanda]

I saw a video a little bit ago, supposedly from a PTS and the stats of the Graf Spee were being shown off. I know nothing is official, and overall it looked nice, but one thing I saw bugged me.

 

It only had a 16km range, which is far less than I expected it to have seeing as how the Scharnhorst has a 19.9km range with very similar (if not identical) guns. I know the guns aren't the only thing that determines range, but really the only reason I was excited about the Spee was because I was expecting to out-range pretty much all the other cruisers the ship would be seeing. If it doesn't have that epic range, then it's just a slower scharnhorst with far less of everything.

 

She does look nice, but unless the final version is significantly different, I don't think I'll be buying her anymore.

[stockmankrause]

I saw a video a little bit ago, supposedly from a PTS and the stats of the Graf Spee were being shown off. I know nothing is official, and overall it looked nice, but one thing I saw bugged me.

 

It only had a 16km range, which is far less than I expected it to have seeing as how the Scharnhorst has a 19.9km range with very similar (if not identical) guns. I know the guns aren't the only thing that determines range, but really the only reason I was excited about the Spee was because I was expecting to out-range pretty much all the other cruisers the ship would be seeing. If it doesn't have that epic range, then it's just a slower scharnhorst with far less of everything.

 

She does look nice, but unless the final version is significantly different, I don't think I'll be buying her anymore.

 

Ive just fought it and the ships amazing in close and personal it owned the sharn easy.

At range  what are you yellow?

[K1ra_Yoshikage]

Not to expensive unique ship with a special playstyle plus some history = instabuy. 

Btw: while she has the same caliber she didn't have exact the same rifles like the Scharnhorst. 

[IronWolfV]

I saw a video a little bit ago, supposedly from a PTS and the stats of the Graf Spee were being shown off. I know nothing is official, and overall it looked nice, but one thing I saw bugged me.

 

It only had a 16km range, which is far less than I expected it to have seeing as how the Scharnhorst has a 19.9km range with very similar (if not identical) guns. I know the guns aren't the only thing that determines range, but really the only reason I was excited about the Spee was because I was expecting to out-range pretty much all the other cruisers the ship would be seeing. If it doesn't have that epic range, then it's just a slower scharnhorst with far less of everything.

 

She does look nice, but unless the final version is significantly different, I don't think I'll be buying her anymore.

 

16km for a tier 6 cruiser is PHENOMENAL.  That's tier 9 cruiser range. What you complaining about again since Spee is going to be a CRUISER.

[Taichunger]

 

16km for a tier 6 cruiser is PHENOMENAL.  That's tier 9 cruiser range. What you complaining about again since Spee is going to be a CRUISER.

 

Budyonny is higher, Molotov is 15.6. Nurnberg 16.5, even Cleveland is 14.6. Not really phenomenal. 

[IronWolfV]

 

Budyonny is higher, Molotov is 15.6. Nurnberg 16.5, even Cleveland is 14.6. Not really phenomenal. 

 

Better than just giving it 14-15. 16 is quite good for a tier 6 cruiser.  That's more than most of the tier 7 cruisers.

[MexicanPanda]

 

16km for a tier 6 cruiser is PHENOMENAL.  That's tier 9 cruiser range. What you complaining about again since Spee is going to be a CRUISER.

 

The Nurnberg (and even the Konigsberg) have a 16.5km range though, and the rest of the germans after that have even longer ranges. The russians also have a longer range at tier 6. So the Spee will hit hard, but it's a cruiser, so it won't be able to take hits in return. Also, depending on how the turret angles are, she's going to have a lot few guns in the fight that fire quite a bit slower.

[K1ra_Yoshikage]

Repair@T6

8km torpedos with a very good angle to the front.

[IronWolfV]

 

The Nurnberg (and even the Konigsberg) have a 16.5km range though, and the rest of the germans after that have even longer ranges. The russians also have a longer range at tier 6. So the Spee will hit hard, but it's a cruiser, so it won't be able to take hits in return. Also, depending on how the turret angles are, she's going to have a lot few guns in the fight that fire quite a bit slower.

 

She'll be fine. And some of the longest range torps at tier 6, plus repair kit which is something only the Leander has at tier 6. Spee will be fine. Though I'll be equipping that ship with the speed flag for damn sure. That 28.5 knots will be a killer.

[stockmankrause]

German battleship Scharnhorst

The graf spee owns the scharn thats all the info you need  .

[MexicanPanda]

Repair@T6

8km torpedos with a very good angle to the front.

 

Repair, huh? Well that video didn't show that, so that sounds interesting. I dunno about the torp angles though, seeing as how the launchers were all the way in the back instead of amidships. Still not overjoyed about the ship, but as I said in my OP, there is still time to see if I want to buy her or not.

[MexicanPanda]

German battleship Scharnhorst

The graf spee owns the scharn thats all the info you need  .

 

According to whom? Someone who killed a potato? There is no way the Spee owns the Scharnhorst. That is literally impossible unless the Scharnhorst captain is a complete moron, and even then the Spee probably wouldn't win every time.

[Khafni]

It's the GRAF SPEE! Instabuy for sure. Of course I will be somewhat disappointed if she can't "outshoot what she can't outrun and outrun what she can't outshoot" but she is gonna be in my port anyhow.

[IronWolfV]

German battleship Scharnhorst

The graf spee owns the scharn thats all the info you need  .

 

[TabbyHopkins]

So, are you never going to use the Nassau, also with 11 inch guns, because she has only a 10.1km range?

 

Or howabout Konig Albert, with her 12 inch rifles with only 10.8km range when Kaiser, also with 12 inch rifles, has a 14.6km range?

[Terrible_Turtle]

German battleship Scharnhorst

The graf spee owns the scharn thats all the info you need  .

 

 A skilled T1 could own a tomato T10. Just because one ship killed another in a game means absolutely nothing. 

[IronWolfV]

So, are you never going to use the Nassau, also with 11 inch guns, because she has only a 10.1km range?

 

Or howabout Konig Albert, with her 12 inch rifles with only 10.8km range when Kaiser, also with 12 inch rifles, has a 14.6km range?

 

Shazam

[stockmankrause]

 

According to whom? Someone who killed a potato? There is no way the Spee owns the Scharnhorst. That is literally impossible unless the Scharnhorst captain is a complete moron, and even then the Spee probably wouldn't win every time.

 

 

 A skilled T1 could own a tomato T10. Just because one ship killed another in a game means absolutely nothing. 

 

 

 

I watched them both in battle at range then close in and thats my verdict if you dont like my opinion do one ok thanks  .

[MexicanPanda]

It's the GRAF SPEE! Instabuy for sure. Of course I will be somewhat disappointed if she can't "outshoot what she can't outrun and outrun what she can't outshoot" but she is gonna be in my port anyhow.

 

I think that's my main problem with her, you just put my thoughts to words for me. That description is exactly what I want out of a ship, and as she stands now, she can't outshoot what she can't outrun, and she can barely outrun what she can't outshoot.

 

So, are you never going to use the Nassau, also with 11 inch guns, because she has only a 10.1km range?

 

Or howabout Konig Albert, with her 12 inch rifles with only 10.8km range when Kaiser, also with 12 inch rifles, has a 14.6km range?

 

I disliked the Nassau because it was slow and short ranged. I don't see a point in buying a tier 3 premium, and the Kaiser was nice, but the Kaiser had survivability that the Spee doesn't. Also, the Kaiser has preferential MM that the Spee will probably be wishing it had. So don't make pointless comparisons please.

[Lert]

I watched them both in battle at range then close in and thats my verdict if you dont like my opinion do one ok thanks  .

 

Ah, the old 'I totally saw this once in game so now I know everything there is to know about it' defense ...

 

I saw Pope Shizzle get absolutely wrecked in the opening minutes of a game once, surely that means he's a terrible player all the time because I saw it once, right?

[stockmankrause]

 

Ah, the old 'I totally saw this once in game so now I know everything there is to know about it' defense ...

 

I saw Pope Shizzle get absolutely wrecked in the opening minutes of a game once, surely that means he's a terrible player all the time because I saw it once, right?

 

[ThomasFranz67]

All I need to know about the Graf Spee is When and How much. 

 

[IronWolfV]

 

 

 

I watched them both in battle at range then close in and thats my verdict if you dont like my opinion do one ok thanks  .

 

Explain how a ship that has half the armor(not even half), 2/3 the firepower, 2/3 the range, not even in the same ball park as far as secondaries is 3 knots slower is somehow better?  Only thing the Spee has on Scharnhorst is torps, and to get that close a Scharnhorst will eat it alive.

 

So please explain how the Spee is better. I am sure the explanation will be FASCINATING.

[_Luna]

You guys haven't figured out to ignore krause yet?

 

[stockmankrause]

You guys haven't figured out to ignore krause yet?

 

 

Hey im a nice guy i just dont like people much but i do try to be a " team player ".

 

 Try.