344 Mahrs Members 1,797 posts 7,977 battles Report post #1 Posted December 10, 2016 I'm a Scharnhorst owner...I bought her when WG trolled the player base with her re-release coincident with the RN CL line. I don't know if it was my timing, a glitch in the matrix, or what...but, I didn't pay as much for Scharnhorst as WG wants for Indianapolis. That seems crazy to me! Just how good is Indianapolis? Should I be reaching for my wallet here? I cannot recall much positive having been written about her... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
107 Boomax77 Members 629 posts 2,397 battles Report post #2 Posted December 10, 2016 It's a good captain trainer for US CA's all the way through T10. I recommend you watch this video before buying it: YW for your comedy fix for the day as well ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,080 1Sherman Alpha Tester 6,683 posts 3,338 battles Report post #3 Posted December 10, 2016 It's a good captain trainer for US CA's all the way through T10. I recommend you watch this video before buying it: YW for your comedy fix for the day as well ;) Pretty much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #4 Posted December 10, 2016 Solid ship. Good trainer for USN CA/CL skippers as it plays like most of the line. I recommend it for anyone going up to the Des Moines. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
39,448 [HINON] Lert Alpha Tester 27,823 posts 26,906 battles Report post #5 Posted December 10, 2016 Not all that great. Get it if you need a US captain trainer. Purely on a quality basis, Belfast is the better T7-cruiser-with-radar. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #6 Posted December 10, 2016 Not all that great. Get it if you need a US captain trainer. Purely on a quality basis, Belfast is the better T7-cruiser-with-radar. Because it also has smoke for NINJA VANISH! And a higher RoF, Infact everytime I look at my Belfast compared to my Atlanta, My Atlanta cries a little. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,585 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 38,622 posts 31,263 battles Report post #7 Posted December 10, 2016 Indianapolis is very average at best. I hold no fear of her at all, unless I'm a smoked up DD in very short range of one; In such a case, I deserve what's to come. Outside that, Indy has no threat. Her armor is irrelevant: It's Cruiser armor. Her guns I hold with no respect. Even her AA is nothing special. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
485 Cruiser_Maya Members 1,216 posts 951 battles Report post #8 Posted December 10, 2016 I was considering getting it myself, but am totally on the fence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #9 Posted December 10, 2016 I was considering getting it myself, but am totally on the fence. Indianapolis in a nutshell? New Orleans 1 tier lower without the tier 8 module. Plain and simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
485 Cruiser_Maya Members 1,216 posts 951 battles Report post #10 Posted December 10, 2016 Indianapolis in a nutshell? New Orleans 1 tier lower without the tier 8 module. Plain and simple. I mean, I guess don't feel strongly about USN cruisers either way when I play. They're very punchy things, but seem - from my perspective - to die very quickly, too. I can't recall the last time I saw one and said "oh man, this dude is totally carrying us right now." On the other hand, tier 7 is the best, and I am quite bored. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #11 Posted December 10, 2016 I mean, I guess don't feel strongly about USN cruisers either way when I play. They're very punchy things, but seem - from my perspective - to die very quickly, too. I can't recall the last time I saw one and said "oh man, this dude is totally carrying us right now." On the other hand, tier 7 is the best, and I am quite bored. She's a run of the mill average cruiser. Same 8 inch guns of the Pensacola and New Orleans, same garbage secondary with the 127/25s, decent low caliber AA, radar and DF(or hydro if you prefer). Way better concealment than pensacola, but you can't get it to New Orleans levels since no tier 8 module. All and all she's not BAD, but she's not a standout either, but far superior IMHO to Pensacola, just on concealment alone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,114 [FOXEH] Umikami Banned 14,364 posts 23,359 battles Report post #12 Posted December 10, 2016 On the other hand, tier 7 is the best Ya, tier 7 has some fantastic ships, no doubt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #13 Posted December 10, 2016 Ya, tier 7 has some fantastic ships, no doubt. Which to me is weird, because tier 7 in tanks IMHO is one of the worst tiers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
529 [WOLF5] CorradoG60 Members 864 posts 10,518 battles Report post #14 Posted December 10, 2016 I'll stick to my Atlanta thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #15 Posted December 10, 2016 I'll stick to my Atlanta thanks Fav tier 7, but not really a good cruiser trainer. More like a DD on steroids. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
344 Mahrs Members 1,797 posts 7,977 battles Report post #16 Posted December 10, 2016 The opinions on her seem...mixed. I guess I'd rather wait for the Tier VIII premium or something...LWM and Lert pan her hard, and if the only thing she has going for her is better concealment than Pensacola...well, I'm not impressed, I guess...not enough to spend $45 bucks on her, anyhow. Part of me wants to buy her, but I don't need another port queen premium. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
896 Deputy276 Members 2,462 posts 7,179 battles Report post #17 Posted December 10, 2016 Disclaimer...I only play Co-Op. I like it a lot for that mode. Makes a goodly amount of credits and good Captain trainer. First time I took it out I got in some island channels and found a lurking Iowa. I rained down HE to the point it was burning stem-to-stern. He was occupied shooting at other ships and I continued to peek out and rain down HE until he finally died from it. Was pretty satisfying and made a ton of credits with it. For me, worth every penny. Plus the historical aspect can't be dismissed. Even more so than the Missouri. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
485 Cruiser_Maya Members 1,216 posts 951 battles Report post #18 Posted December 10, 2016 Bought it. Wonderful little boat - enjoying it way more than my Zao (which is SHAMEFUR). It's all citadels in this thing - I had 8 last game. I'd love it more if I could swap out defensive fire for a heal, but meh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
5,912 [CNO] Soshi_Sone Members 7,450 posts 23,087 battles Report post #19 Posted December 10, 2016 As others have said, she is a mediocre T7 cruiser. But due to her better concealment than Pepsi she now can play a better BB escort role or DD support role. As the "how to Indi" video shows, you pretty much need to operate in between your concealment band and your gun range. This creates a different play style from the Pepsi and the Atlanta. So while it isn't a spectacular ship in general, it does provide a unique play niche. I take her out every once in a while just for the niche play. If you like USN cruisers and want more variety, you might want to consider it. If you don't like USN CAs, or are happy with the currently variety mix, don't buy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71 [-SKI-] cheereereerios Members 323 posts 14,848 battles Report post #20 Posted December 10, 2016 Only buy if you are both: good at cruisers; training USN CA captains. Otherwise, the Scharnhorst is a much better Tier 7 cruiser. ;) Also, yeah, the Belfast. Based on how many times one of those rats completely wreck my smoked up DD day (and occasionally slow BB day) it's probably the best compromise between the Indy's ridiculous AP and the Atlanta "DD on steroids with nerf shells" gameplay. If it goes back on sale I'm grabbing one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
71 [-SKI-] cheereereerios Members 323 posts 14,848 battles Report post #21 Posted December 10, 2016 Also, the AP is hell yeah. Works on silly broadsiding BB's for 4-9k salvos. Works on silly broadsiding CA/CL's trying to get their torps out (hi Myoko!). Works on silly DD's ignoring the pile of guns pointed their way...(actually, probably least effective on DD's, the ROF hurts there). Got a citadel hit against a Fuso at max range. That was one of those "what?" moments. Upper belt on german BB's? Just rake it...while sharply angled, and reversing back behind your island. Preferably while they are engaged with someone else. I find the consumables aggravating though - you basically have to pick DF over hydro, because you KNOW there will be CV's if you don't. Same with radar - the Cat Fighter/hillbilly hydro is great, but you know this will be the game with that perfect radar situation if you don't bring it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
17,585 [WOLF5] HazeGrayUnderway Members 38,622 posts 31,263 battles Report post #22 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) The opinions on her seem...mixed. I guess I'd rather wait for the Tier VIII premium or something...LWM and Lert pan her hard, and if the only thing she has going for her is better concealment than Pensacola...well, I'm not impressed, I guess...not enough to spend $45 bucks on her, anyhow. Part of me wants to buy her, but I don't need another port queen premium. That's the thing with Indy. She's not bad. She's not good, either. I'll relate another very average Cruiser. Prinz Eugen, a.k.a. "Adm.Hipper v1.1" For all intents and purposes, a clone of Adm.Hipper, who herself is okay at Tier VIII. Not bad, not good either. In combat terms, she does practically everything decently (better in her tier than Pepsi-Cola/Indy for their respective tier). She even can earn crazy XPs. But other than the first days of when Prinz Eugen came out, how often do you see her these days? There's reasons for that, and at the core of that is the ship is actually very average at best. Edited December 10, 2016 by HazeGrayUnderway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
6,799 IronWolfV Alpha Tester, Beta Testers 30,523 posts 6,320 battles Report post #23 Posted December 10, 2016 That's the thing with Indy. She's not bad. She's not good, either. I'll relate another very average Cruiser. Prinz Eugen, a.k.a. "Adm.Hipper v1.1" For all intents and purposes, a clone of Adm.Hipper, who herself is okay at Tier VIII. Not bad, not good either. In combat terms, she does practically everything decently (better in her tier than Pepsi-Cola/Indy for their respective tier). She even can earn crazy XPs. But other than the first days of when Prinz Eugen came out, how often do you see her these days? There's reasons for that, and at the core of that is the ship is actually very average at best. Rather have my indy then an Eugen. And also ontop of that Graf Spee is coming and I'll happily take that over Eugen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
485 Cruiser_Maya Members 1,216 posts 951 battles Report post #24 Posted December 10, 2016 (edited) That's the thing with Indy. She's not bad. She's not good, either. I'll relate another very average Cruiser. Prinz Eugen, a.k.a. "Adm.Hipper v1.1" For all intents and purposes, a clone of Adm.Hipper, who herself is okay at Tier VIII. Not bad, not good either. In combat terms, she does practically everything decently (better in her tier than Pepsi-Cola/Indy for their respective tier). She even can earn crazy XPs. But other than the first days of when Prinz Eugen came out, how often do you see her these days? There's reasons for that, and at the core of that is the ship is actually very average at best. I don't know if that's quite fair. 1) Indy isn't a clone of any ship presently in the game - she's a Portland Class cruiser and may even remain unique when the line splits (I'd rather see a T7 Wichita myself; or, better yet, NO bumped down to tier 7 and Wichita at tier 8). 2) She benefits from far better tiering than Eugen. Until WG ever rethinks their heinous decision to protect tier 4, 7 will remain the sweet spot for pretty much all gameplay. Edited December 10, 2016 by Cruiser_Maya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
173 [KILL] vonluckner Members 589 posts 8,548 battles Report post #25 Posted December 10, 2016 Not as good as the Belfast, but she's far superior to the Pensacola. Losing 1 gun is absolutely nothing compared to the gain in radar and concealment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites