I wish I could put the Shchors in a pillow case, and smash it on the street.

[anonymised]

I HATE this horrible boat. Sick of being 1-shotted by every BB that detects you (which can be done from Pluto, mind you). The guns, sure you can spam HE. So what. A t5 BB will still citadel you from 14km through whatever side you are showing.

 

"Oh you should play more conservative" and finish with 1 target hit? How are you honestly supposed to play this ship?

If you've ever had a good game in this boat, it was lucky. It is a faeces stain on the underpants of this game and I wish they would just get rid of it.

[Grevester]

Surely this is everyones problem. nobody does well in shchors right

[Nuk_]

If you've ever had a good game in this boat, it was lucky.

 

Does luck explain why it's the 2nd best performing non-premium cruiser at its tier?

[DasBootcamp]

"If I can't do well in it with my incredibly average gameplay then the ship is poop and needs nukes added to it."

[Grevester]

[anonymised]

Yes I have watched that and it only makes me more angry.

 

I am probably so bad in it, I am the reason it's #2.

[Grevester]

Yes I have watched that and it only makes me more angry.

 

I am probably so bad in it, I am the reason it's #2.

 

Well, good players don't learn by being good, but by messing up and evaluating that result. If you have the desire, the results will follow. 

[QuantumEntropy]

 

 

I loved all of them till donskoi

[Boomax77]

Tier 7 is almost always a drag, regardless of ship type or nation. The only exception really is the gneisenau

[HazeGrayUnderway]

Schors is hilarious.  It is one of the very few Cruisers in the game that can sit out in the open, in full view of MULTIPLE BATTLESHIPS, and troll the ever-living-s**t out of all of them and has a good chance on getting away with it.

 

She doesn't Invisifire.

She doesn't do "Torpedo Attack Runs of Doom" at all with suicidal 4km torps.

She doesn't even have 203mm guns.

 

What she has is excellent range, excellent shell flight characteristics, a high ROF, and with DE, will start setting targets ablaze with ease.  She is not that maneuverable but she has the speed to kite enemies and maintain the long range fight that she excels at.  An old pic that captures what she can do:

 

 

 

If you've ever had a good game in this boat, it was lucky. It is a faeces stain on the underpants of this game and I wish they would just get rid of it.

 

Speak for yourself OP.  Not my fault you don't know what you're doing with this great ship.

[Mahrs]

I haven't even had a chance to play a game with the upgraded range (just finished upgrading her) and have really been enjoying her.  She makes me realize that I was clearly too ubernoob terribad to do Budyonny justice.  I keep getting the itch to buy Budyonny back...just because she deserves a better effort.  Maybe I'm a dirty scrub lord, but I really, really like her guns.  After using the KM cruisers, her AP actually isn't really a step down in penetration, just alpha.  No, she isn't durable - but what Tier VII cruiser is?  I've been nuked hard twice in 10 games because I got up front, being too aggressive.  I'll learn.  It's stupidly easy to pile up a ton of damage, even without fires, assuming you stay alive. 

 

ETA:

Yup, can confirm...she's wretched.  

 

 

[vonKaiser]

It's all in the mindset.  Lately I've been seeing some nasty Tier 9 ships while sailing my Shchors so I've adopted the Hide at far range and shake back and forth like a scared Weasel avoiding any incoming fire.  However, the thing is vicious in it's own right and has some teeth.  Running the flags, and a Concealment/Demolition captain she got me my first Witherer in all of my games in WOWS so far. 

 

https://wowreplays.com/Replay/25594

 

[Lord_Adm_Nelson]

Shchors, Chapy, Kutuzov....are nasty nasty fire spitting long range open water HE spam machines. 

 

11km or less running CE, smoke on the Kutuzov, Chappy Radar. Devastating ROF, DE and good AP all make for a powerful ship.

 

Arsonist YES, Witherer YES

 

All are good DD klllers especially the chappy with its long range radar and rail guns, at range of radar 12 guns will nuc nearly and DD.

 

I think T7 is a sweet spot right now.......It certainly isn't T6 which sees mostly T8 these days. 

 

 

[HazeGrayUnderway]

 

I think T7 is a sweet spot right now.......It certainly isn't T6 which sees mostly T8 these days. 

 

 

 

The notion of fast, long range, accurate, fast firing Schors trolling Standard USN BBs with their 21kts is hilarious.  It's completely unfair to the poor bast*rds.  There is literally nothing they can do to close range and deal with you, nor hide, nor sail away.  Schors is too fast to dictate the engagement ranges, too good of a shooter at range.  It's like using a flamethrower to melt an ant.

[Vekta408]

 

Shchors can be a little defeating at times. It is super squishy and turns like a drunk whale but the thing is a fire hose. It's worth it to get to the Chappy. The Chappy can do pretty much all the stuff that the Shchors can do PLUS pewp on royal navy cruisers trying to use smoke.

 

Pesky Neptune giving your team problems?

 

  Fire all the things team!

 

[NTRabbit]

 

The notion of fast, long range, accurate, fast firing Schors trolling Standard USN BBs with their 21kts is hilarious.  It's completely unfair to the poor bast*rds.  There is literally nothing they can do to close range and deal with you, nor hide, nor sail away.  Schors is too fast to dictate the engagement ranges, too good of a shooter at range.  It's like using a flamethrower to melt an ant.

 

They can always, you know, shoot you. With the range mod Colorado shoots out to 19.1km, and it's easily accurate enough to hit a whale like Schors, which needs to be inside 17km. Sure, stealth firing Chapayev is a problem, but in my Colorado, New Mexico, Nagato, Fuso, and Bayern, Schors was an xp pinata, even easier to farm than the 'infamous' Pensacola.

 

Schors is pure trash, it can only hose fire by using all 4 turrets, which requires using it on battleships that are distracted, which requires your battleships to be doing their job - and any ship so utterly reliant on your team in this game is going to have a bad time. The AP has such poor penetration it might as well be stripped from the ship as a mirror of the RN AP gimmick.

 

Mean time, Yorck is almost as good at hosing fire, but on top of that it has great handling, functional armour, and when you get in close it has an AP round that actually penetrates things.

[Vekta408]

 

They can always, you know, shoot you. With the range mod Colorado shoots out to 19.1km, and it's easily accurate enough to hit a whale like Schors, which needs to be inside 17km. Sure, stealth firing Chapayev is a problem, but in my Colorado, New Mexico, Nagato, Fuso, and Bayern, Schors was an xp pinata, even easier to farm than the 'infamous' Pensacola.

 

Schors is pure trash, it can only hose fire by using all 4 turrets, which requires using it on battleships that are distracted, which requires your battleships to be doing their job - and any ship so utterly reliant on your team in this game is going to have a bad time. The AP has such poor penetration it might as well be stripped from the ship as a mirror of the RN AP gimmick.

 

Mean time, Yorck is almost as good at hosing fire, but on top of that it has great handling, functional armour, and when you get in close it has an AP round that actually penetrates things.

 

​I donno, those RU 152's melt a broadside N.C. pretty fast. Maybe I'm just lucky but I didn't have to get that close to do it. 4-5K a salvo is pretty good damage to me.

[icehaddock]

I still have problem with her.  I can have very good game in her but then the next game I get erased in an instant.

When I first got her I thought see was another Budyonny , just better with more guns.  I didn't realize I would be facing more ships that can just swipe you off the map from any angle.

I have found I almost need to operator her as an assasin.  Never ever rush into action, study the map, position yourself, jump in, assassinate then drive away and behind cover (behind cover is very important).  Of course that means sailing close to islands which is a challenge with her insanely bad turning radius.

I spent million credits on faster rudder speed mod and did not see much difference in performance.  Running her now with faster acceleration and doing better.  I find it helps to be able to get up to speed faster especially after I beach her on an island which is common for me.  I guess I have that in common with Notser (not much more... He is much better player than I am)

 

I assume Chapy is the same....  Can't say I'm enthusiastic to reach her

 

I have played almost every ship tree up to tier 7.  Finally reached tier 8 with Japan and German cruiser lines and it was like hitting a wall.  I think I may just go back playing lower tiers........  

Mogami 150mm riffles are fun but I can't deal with the slow turret rotation.  The Hipper driving is not going well.  I get few good games in my premium Atago (thanks to repair ability and smaller detection range after the 2 million concealment mod.

 

 

 

 

 

[bmfexpress]

I actually like my Schors. I have it fully upgraded. Use your range to help you from taking a lot of hits from BB's. I'm not saying I am a great player, but I usually average around 50k damage per game in it.

[centarina]

I had some good matches in shchors.   (done with the grind though)   one match, I burned down iowa and NC    witherer and 150k dmg    you can't carry a match with it, but you can farm  tears with fire. 

[Freecloud]

I HATE this horrible boat. Sick of being 1-shotted by every BB that detects you (which can be done from Pluto, mind you). The guns, sure you can spam HE. So what. A t5 BB will still citadel you from 14km through whatever side you are showing.

 

"Oh you should play more conservative" and finish with 1 target hit? How are you honestly supposed to play this ship?

If you've ever had a good game in this boat, it was lucky. It is a faeces stain on the underpants of this game and I wish they would just get rid of it.

 

Move with a team and lay fire upon anything in your path.  If there's a destroyer, engage and set the boat ablaze.

 

I heard that all the latter end Soviet cruisers play exactly the same since they're all light cruisers (except maybe the Moskva).  I love my Mikhail Kutuzov and she's pretty much similar to the Shchors...

[TenguBlade]

Meanwhile I'm sitting over here like:

[JochenHeiden]

Shchors was one of the most lethal cruisers I have ever played in this game, and I am decidedly pro-Kriegsmarine.  I am now in the Chapayev and tearing it up in that too.  I only have 25 battles in this ship, not a huge sample size, but as you can see from the stats, there is nothing wrong with it whatsoever.  My first 5 games were all losses, so it affected my WR a bit, but once I figured out how to use it, it was unstoppable. 

 

 

 

[Freecloud]

Shchors was one of the most lethal cruisers I have ever played in this game, and I am decidedly pro-Kriegsmarine.  I am now in the Chapayev and tearing it up in that too.  I only have 25 battles in this ship, not a huge sample size, but as you can see from the stats, there is nothing wrong with it whatsoever.  My first 5 games were all losses, so it affected my WR a bit, but once I figured out how to use it, it was unstoppable. 

 

 

 

 

I feel the same way for me with the MK, though I've been losing a lot with the Shchors.  I think I'm just going to grind past her so I can get the Moskva.

[DerekJR321]

Concealment expert.... stay at range... burn em with HE. If they give you broad side hit em with AP. If you can manage it, get the new HE (increased pen?). Makes a difference with dmg. I'm able to stealth fire at range against BB's, so long as I keep them right near the edge. I don't "own" matches, but I do okay. I survive.