Ship Buying Advice

[Zambasshik]

Im in the market for a premium. Mid teir BB. I want the Texas because i loved the New York. I want the Arizona because I loved the New Mexico. But the Warspite has also always appealed to me, those guns and maneuverability and secondaries... ooooo... any opinions? Anyone know of speculation that any of these will show up for sale during the shipmas sales?

[Kuckoo]

Scharnhorst.

[Bl4ckBaron]

Tier 6 = Warspite

Tier 7 = Scharnhorst

[The_first_harbinger]

Personally I would just spend a little more money and get the scharnhorst (it's on sale too)

But if you must embrace 'Murica and 'Murica allies, here's my little opinion.

 

The Texas is...not quite an enjoyable premium IMO. The bad gun traverse angle (better than New York thou) coupled with slow speed means angling your ship is always tricky in a battleship duel, having a flawed armor scheme certainly doesn't help. The AA is a major selling point, however unless you go full AA spec in the current Matchmaker status you are still helpless like pig to slaughter against tier 7 carriers. Nice punchy guns at tier 5, with range and accuracy leaving lots to be desired.

 

Arizona is the best performing T6 bb in the game so far. Improved accuracy and armor over New Mexico certainly helps, higher DPM compensates for the slight decrease in Penetration values. Good gun traverse allowence and good armor means high survivability even caught in cross gun fire, although the large, uncovered secondary gun casemates and superstructure makes her quite vulnerable to fire.

 

Warspite is...a battleship of a different taste. It's immunity against gunfire is quite lacking (lots of unarmored and exposed curves on the hull), and the turret traverse is boarderline unbearable. Yet the ability to overmatch enemies' bow is a major advantage to have in a brawl, and the warspite is arguably the most maneuverable battleship in the game: excellent ruddar shift time with a turn radius that would make destroyers wet. And how do you like the best sigma value and the best heal? Despite having high shell arc, the good shell velocity maintanence characteristics makes sniping not only manageable, but desirable, as you can find yourself able to plunge through the deck of higher tier battleships.

 

Either way, the choice is entirely yours, I'll see you on the high seas!

 In my Bismarck 

 

[Kapitan_Wuff]

The Texas is fun, if you like the New York, then you will love the Texas...and those AA guns..so nice. The Arizona looks underwhelming to me, but then I don't have her so.. The Warspite looks like a great boat, but it seems it has kinda lost its place a bit with the KM BBs (It's no longer the best T6 brawler).  Since none of the aforementioned ships have been on sale recently (other than in bundles) I expect most of them will be made available in some sale or another for Christmas or the weeks leading up to it. As other posters have mentioned the Scharnhorst, yea, its a great ship too. And it is currently on for sale, I wouldn't expect it to come back (other than maybe another bundle) before Christmas, so if you want it you better pick it up now.  My recommendation is the Texas, if you like American BBs then you will love the Texas, and unlike the Warspite, the Texas can be a trainer for you USN Captains. 

[ckupf]

As a patron of battlecruisers I heartily recommend the T4 Ishizuchi if you want something lower tier and the T6 Dunkerque. They are lightly armored, but more maneuverable with interesting guns.

 

If you want true battleships I recommend the Texas at T5 with her sweet AA armanent and solid guns she is an enjoyable ship. At T6 the Arizona is better than the Warspite imo. Warspite fires 15" lasers, but she is soft and her turrets are slower than molasses.

 

But above all those I recommend the Scharnhorst. She is beautiful, her gun handling is excellent with 20s reload on her 11" guns, the penetration on them is excellent and she can still citadel BBs at close range if your torps don't kill them first. She slays cruisers for breakfast and handles DDs better than any BB at her tier or below. Her armor is solid, but she is still very maneuverable.

[Captain_Doll]

I'd get a Dunkerque before warspite.  

[legoboy0401]

Personally I would just spend a little more money and get the scharnhorst (it's on sale too)

But if you must embrace 'Murica and 'Murica allies, here's my little opinion.

 

The Texas is...not quite an enjoyable premium IMO. The bad gun traverse angle (better than New York thou) coupled with slow speed means angling your ship is always tricky in a battleship duel, having a flawed armor scheme certainly doesn't help. The AA is a major selling point, however unless you go full AA spec in the current Matchmaker status you are still helpless like pig to slaughter against tier 7 carriers. Nice punchy guns at tier 5, with range and accuracy leaving lots to be desired.

 

Arizona is the best performing T6 bb in the game so far. Improved accuracy and armor over New Mexico certainly helps, higher DPM compensates for the slight decrease in Penetration values. Good gun traverse allowence and good armor means high survivability even caught in cross gun fire, although the large, uncovered secondary gun casemates and superstructure makes her quite vulnerable to fire.

 

Warspite is...a battleship of a different taste. It's immunity against gunfire is quite lacking (lots of unarmored and exposed curves on the hull), and the turret traverse is boarderline unbearable. Yet the ability to overmatch enemies' bow is a major advantage to have in a brawl, and the warspite is arguably the most maneuverable battleship in the game: excellent ruddar shift time with a turn radius that would make destroyers wet. And how do you like the best sigma value and the best heal? Despite having high shell arc, the good shell velocity maintanence characteristics makes sniping not only manageable, but desirable, as you can find yourself able to plunge through the deck of higher tier battleships.

 

Either way, the choice is entirely yours, I'll see you on the high seas!

 In my Bismarck 

 

lol wut? AZ has the same ROF as Imperator Nikolai, aka the one weakness of Nikolai other than AA.

 

AZ and Nikolai share the longest reload in the game. At Tier VI, the question is do you want the worst reload time(of guns) in the game or the worst gun traverse speed in the game?

[_Marines]

Scharnhorst or Tirpitz.

 

They are very sturdy yet versatile, thus are quite fun to play and you can grow to love them. Many other premium ships are fragile or have citadels above waterline, making them very nervous to play and that takes the fun away from the game.

 

There is also the concern that, with time, you will be a much better player and have a great collection of ships. At that point, you would want ships that can print credits, xp, and above all, train captains quickly. Scharnhorst and Tirpitz are extremely competent at training German captains. If you like American ships, then maybe Arizona, which has slightly more base xp than Texas.

[vak_]

Im in the market for a premium. Mid teir BB. I want the Texas because i loved the New York. I want the Arizona because I loved the New Mexico. But the Warspite has also always appealed to me, those guns and maneuverability and secondaries... ooooo... any opinions? Anyone know of speculation that any of these will show up for sale during the shipmas sales?

 

If you liked New York and New Mexico, you'll like Texas and Arizona. So those are safe purchases. I'd personally recommend Arizona -- tier five isn't a great place to be right now, due to recent MM changes.

 

As for other suggestions. Let me ask this: why exactly did you like New York and Arizona? Was it because of the brawling, where people struggle to penetrate your armor at mid and close ranges? Then you might love Scharnhorst. She's is a brawling king, especially with a secondary build (and also one of my favorite ships in game). Her armor is even better than that of Standard USN BBs, and unlike them she's also very fast (and has torpeduz!).

 

Warspite is kind of a funky ship. The turret traverse is horrid. If you're somewhat bothered by turret traverse on New York / Arizona, you'll hate it on Warspite. However, the grand old lady has her perks. 16" guns are fairly punchy, she turns on a dime, the repair party is uber strong, and her secondaries are second to none at tier 6 (all HE, can reach out to 7.6km with AFT, secondary module, and flag).

 

Someone above recommended Dunkerque. She's also kind of an oddball battleship that plays more like a cruiser actually. Very fast and maneuverable, sort of weak guns, very bad armor (unless you're bow-on tanking against ships with 14" rifles). Basically a complete opposite of Standard BBs.

 

And a general piece of advice. Have you read any of the of ships reviews by LittleWhiteMouse? Those are quite excellent, and should help you make a better-educated decision. http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/90861-littlewhitemouse-mega-ship-review-guide-page/

 

Good luck!

[Sink_Stuff]

Personally I would just spend a little more money and get the scharnhorst (it's on sale too)

But if you must embrace 'Murica and 'Murica allies, here's my little opinion.

 

The Texas is...not quite an enjoyable premium IMO. The bad gun traverse angle (better than New York thou) coupled with slow speed means angling your ship is always tricky in a battleship duel, having a flawed armor scheme certainly doesn't help. The AA is a major selling point, however unless you go full AA spec in the current Matchmaker status you are still helpless like pig to slaughter against tier 7 carriers. Nice punchy guns at tier 5, with range and accuracy leaving lots to be desired.

 

Arizona is the best performing T6 bb in the game so far. Improved accuracy and armor over New Mexico certainly helps, higher DPM compensates for the slight decrease in Penetration values. Good gun traverse allowence and good armor means high survivability even caught in cross gun fire, although the large, uncovered secondary gun casemates and superstructure makes her quite vulnerable to fire.

 

Warspite is...a battleship of a different taste. It's immunity against gunfire is quite lacking (lots of unarmored and exposed curves on the hull), and the turret traverse is boarderline unbearable. Yet the ability to overmatch enemies' bow is a major advantage to have in a brawl, and the warspite is arguably the most maneuverable battleship in the game: excellent ruddar shift time with a turn radius that would make destroyers wet. And how do you like the best sigma value and the best heal? Despite having high shell arc, the good shell velocity maintanence characteristics makes sniping not only manageable, but desirable, as you can find yourself able to plunge through the deck of higher tier battleships.

 

Either way, the choice is entirely yours, I'll see you on the high seas!

 In my Bismarck 

 

 

This. If Arizona come out buy it. If you want to go up the German bb line get the Scharn. Texas is the last choice, but still not a bad bb at all.

[Battlecruiser_Amagi]

Bite the bullet, get a Titpitz. She's really good.

[K1ra_Yoshikage]

Scharnhorst/Tirpitz. The Texas was good till the MM changes (I gave up after I regular end up in t7 games). If they sell the Arizona I would recommend her. The uptiering isn't as bad as for the Texas but then you have a terrible reload time and a low AA. Carrierplayer love you as a XP pinata.

[Battlecruiser_Amagi]

Scharnhorst/Tirpitz. The Texas was good till the MM changes (I gave up after I regular end up in t7 games). If they sell the Arizona I would recommend her. The uptiering isn't as bad as for the Texas but then you have a terrible reload time and a low AA. Carrierplayer love you as a XP pinata.

 

I can also confirm that Tirpitz AP punches right through Arizona armor, even when angled. Nevertheless, the Arizona still has nice guns, which is it's main selling point.

[The_first_harbinger]

lol wut? AZ has the same ROF as Imperator Nikolai, aka the one weakness of Nikolai other than AA.

 

AZ and Nikolai share the longest reload in the game. At Tier VI, the question is do you want the worst reload time(of guns) in the game or the worst gun traverse speed in the game?

 

XD I think failed to make myself clear...

By higher DPM I took into consideration of increased accuracy, better sigman dispersion, based accuracy correction and penetration normalization value.

[StoneGullet]

For a really good low tier BB I recommend the Konig Albert. The ship is OP for its tier. spec secondaries and laugh at the seals. it's my go to ship when I wanna relax. 

[IronWolfV]

Well since you like BBs here's my recommendations:

 

1. Scharnhorst

2. Tirpitz

3. Arizona

4. Dunkerque

5. Texas.

[Soshi_Sone]

If you can, get 'em all.  They are different enough to add variety to the game.  If I had to rank in order I would buy:

 

AZ

Warspite

Texas

 

At the moment, I play AZ best.  It is a very nice "tank" when angled, and can deliver 12 rounds at long range, makes a great mid range brawler, and can also go in close when needed.  If you are the alpha dog, you're almost always in top 3.  And even when bottom tier, you can contribute in a significant way even against T8s.

 

The Warspite is also nice.  But you only have 8 main guns.  On the flip side, they are 15 inchers which don't show up much at T6.  Just need more finese than with the 12 fourteen inchers in the AZ.

 

The Texas is a good T5 BB, and it's AAA for that tier is fantastic...better than many CAs!   But there is a big range jump in the USN line between T5 and T6.  Getting up-tiered in the Texas is more of a struggle than getting up tiered in the AZ or Warspite.

[Pope_Shizzle]

Im in the market for a premium. Mid teir BB. I want the Texas because i loved the New York. I want the Arizona because I loved the New Mexico. But the Warspite has also always appealed to me, those guns and maneuverability and secondaries... ooooo... any opinions? Anyone know of speculation that any of these will show up for sale during the shipmas sales?

 

The Arizona is more competitive than the Texas because it can hold its own in tier 8 games where the Texas struggles in tier 7's.  Warspite has been a victim of power creep and the stupid matchmaking changes that force it to play tier 8 all day.  

 

If you want a premium battleship, spend a few extra dollars and get a Tirpitz.  It's still quite competitive and it prints credits.