"Free" IJN DD premium camo soon to be removed

[eVa_Refuel]

I'm fine with the mistakes being taken away but make it a Win-Win but offering and selling permanent camo bundle packages at a discount.  IJN DD perm camo bundle, IJN CA perm camo bundle, USN CA perm camo bundle and so forth.  

 

Wargaming,  I would buy these in a heartbeat.

[Happy_Thoughts]

-cough- x5000 free exp arp mission -cough-

[Razgriz_Demon]

WG didn't promise it. You didn't expect it.  Now you won't have it.  Where is the problem?

 

Funny how  people moaning about other people getting a 'free' pass on the ARP ships are now moaning because they don't get for free what other people paid real money for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why yes... I did pay for all my premium camos.  Why do you ask?

 

are you talking about the Arp ships or the IJN DD camos cause well they stated right there in the patch notes http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-515/

 

Permanent Camouflage

If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Hatsuharu VII before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Hatsuharu VI and Akatsuki VII are added to the player's account as replacements.
If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Fubuki VIII before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Kagero VIII and Fubuki VII are added to the player's account as replacements.
If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Kagero IX before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Yugumo IX and Kagero VIII are added to the player's account as replacements.

 

pretty sure only reason people recently rebought the ships and got the camo for it. now they are saying they are going to remove it all lol. why have that crap in the patch notes then say its a mistake.

[knightwolf1]

The reason people are angry about this and point out the arp kongo exploit is quite simple. Look at the people that got 1m free xp, or 2m from the arp kongo glitch. do the math as to how much money it would cost to convert that much xp. those people could STILL be benefiting from that. btw, its about 300$ for 2m free xp convert (rough estimate feel free to provide proper number). Now here we have people who got a 7$ camo for free, and they want to keep it. im going to quote someone from the eu forum of wows.

 

"This is not a simple question to just deal with the Free EXP but also a question about WG's attitude. Apparently it is a completely challenge to the game EULA. I suppose that any kind of benefit from game's BUG is considered illegal, isn't it? If WG don't treat this issue seriously, it will become a terrible precedent. Then everyone will make use of any BUG next time without hesitation because you choose to compromise today. This is not fair for most people who even don't know about the BUG and those who know it but didn't do anything for fear of possible punishment." 

And that is from this post 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/40889-ask-for-immediate-resolution-to-illegal-free-exp-income-from-ars-mission-bug/

 

Well i guess they were right. They compromised and gave everyone that xp and now everyone wants to make use of this bug. and why shouldn't we, after all is this really that different? you can mention that getting free xp is somting you can do for free but how long would it take to get 1-2mil free xp. and how much would it cost to convert. vs how much the camos cost. And with Missouri coming out this is the perfect time to point this out because its not beyond reason that some of these lucky few who got all that xp might still have some, enough to help them get if not outright get them the Missouri. 

[MrDeaf]

 

are you talking about the Arp ships or the IJN DD camos cause well they stated right there in the patch notes http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-515/

 

Permanent Camouflage

If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Hatsuharu VII before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Hatsuharu VI and Akatsuki VII are added to the player's account as replacements.
If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Fubuki VIII before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Kagero VIII and Fubuki VII are added to the player's account as replacements.
If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Kagero IX before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Yugumo IX and Kagero VIII are added to the player's account as replacements.

 

pretty sure only reason people recently rebought the ships and got the camo for it. now they are saying they are going to remove it all lol. why have that crap in the patch notes then say its a mistake.

 

No, they are removing permanent camo that was given out erroneously.

 

For example.

MrDeaf had Permanent camo for T8 Fubuki before changes were made.

MrDeaf got Permanent camo for T6 Fubuki, T6 Hatsuharu, T7 Akatsuki, T8 Kagero and T9 Yugumo after 0.5.15.

MrDeaf will have Permanent camo from T6 Hatsuharu, T7 Akatsuki and T9 Yugumo removed sometime next week.

 

The reason people are angry about this and point out the arp kongo exploit is quite simple. Look at the people that got 1m free xp, or 2m from the arp kongo glitch. do the math as to how much money it would cost to convert that much xp. those people could STILL be benefiting from that. btw, its about 300$ for 2m free xp convert (rough estimate feel free to provide proper number). Now here we have people who got a 7$ camo for free, and they want to keep it. im going to quote someone from the eu forum of wows.

 

"This is not a simple question to just deal with the Free EXP but also a question about WG's attitude. Apparently it is a completely challenge to the game EULA. I suppose that any kind of benefit from game's BUG is considered illegal, isn't it? If WG don't treat this issue seriously, it will become a terrible precedent. Then everyone will make use of any BUG next time without hesitation because you choose to compromise today. This is not fair for most people who even don't know about the BUG and those who know it but didn't do anything for fear of possible punishment." 

And that is from this post 

http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/40889-ask-for-immediate-resolution-to-illegal-free-exp-income-from-ars-mission-bug/

 

Well i guess they were right. They compromised and gave everyone that xp and now everyone wants to make use of this bug. and why shouldn't we, after all is this really that different? you can mention that getting free xp is somting you can do for free but how long would it take to get 1-2mil free xp. and how much would it cost to convert. vs how much the camos cost. And with Missouri coming out this is the perfect time to point this out because its not beyond reason that some of these lucky few who got all that xp might still have some, enough to help them get if not outright get them the Missouri. 

 

The difference is...

You can spend 1m free XP the moment you get it and reversing this would mean the account needs to have their progress reversed or end up with negative FXP.

Permanent camo, by nature of being permanent, doesn't have a nominal value that needs to be deducted from the account.

As in, you can't end up with negative number of camo.

[Raptor_alcor]

 

 

 

Not sure what your talking about, if a banks wrongly deposits money in your account and realizes it you can bet they're getting it back, same thing with this. The people who accidentally got it didn't pay for it so they aren't out anything and honestly have no room to complain about it being taken away. Granted they could be nice and let everyone keep it but I'd imagine it was wrongly given out to enough people that WG sees it as negatively affecting them.

 

Quite wrong actually, if a bank makes an error of any sort and gives someone money by accident, under united states law that money officially belongs to the account owner and that's all there is to it. 

[CaliburxZero]

You can spend 1m free XP the moment you get it and reversing this would mean the account needs to have their progress reversed or end up with negative FXP.

Permanent camo, by nature of being permanent, doesn't have a nominal value that needs to be deducted from the account.

As in, you can't end up with negative number of camo.

 

Just have to point out that WG refuses to refund doubloon value for any perm camos you have, like for example if you wanted to get the doubloons back from buying the Iowa camo because you want Missouri.  Buuuut they can do this.  You know, because "they can't remove camos and other things".  

[knightwolf1]

 

No, they are removing permanent camo that was given out erroneously.

 

For example.

MrDeaf had Permanent camo for T8 Fubuki before changes were made.

MrDeaf got Permanent camo for T6 Fubuki, T6 Hatsuharu, T7 Akatsuki, T8 Kagero and T9 Yugumo after 0.5.15.

MrDeaf will have Permanent camo from T6 Hatsuharu, T7 Akatsuki and T9 Yugumo removed sometime next week.

 

 

The difference is...

You can spend 1m free XP the moment you get it and reversing this would mean the account needs to have their progress reversed or end up with negative FXP.

Permanent camo, by nature of being permanent, doesn't have a nominal value that needs to be deducted from the account.

As in, you can't end up with negative number of camo.

 

But the free xp still could have been handled. Theres any number of things that could have happened. the people who didn't get to exploit it could have been compensated at the very least instead of deciding a few players get a golden egg and the others get nothing. And lets just say for a moment i agree with you. what about other shady practices this game/company has had. remember the Murmansk? If the free xp thing hadnt happened i would be on your side hands down. But it did happen and wargaming created future issues with it. Try to think of it in that perspective. one day you get free things becasue the company made a mistake and they are happy to let you keep the free things. the next they are taking away free things because of mistakes. or even worse, imagine you didnt get the first free thing but you got the second and they are taking the second away but letting everyone who got the first keep it. Life is seldom fair, but isnt it a companys job to treat its customers as fairly as possible? Do issues like these incentivize you and make you wanna play more and buy more items? they just make me feel angry, not just for myself but for everyone else who feels jerked around by things like this.

 

Just have to point out that WG refuses to refund doubloon value for any perm camos you have, like for example if you wanted to get the doubloons back from buying the Iowa camo because you want Missouri.  Buuuut they can do this.  You know, because "they can't remove camos and other things".  

 

Yea its funny how sometimes wg can conviently do things and sometimes they conveniently cant. As a customer i can say i just "love" being jerked around by someone who im buying a service or product from

[MrDeaf]

 

But the free xp still could have been handled. Theres any number of things that could have happened. the people who didn't get to exploit it could have been compensated at the very least instead of deciding a few players get a golden egg and the others get nothing. And lets just say for a moment i agree with you. what about other shady practices this game/company has had. remember the Murmansk? If the free xp thing hadnt happened i would be on your side hands down. But it did happen and wargaming created future issues with it. Try to think of it in that perspective. one day you get free things becasue the company made a mistake and they are happy to let you keep the free things. the next they are taking away free things because of mistakes. or even worse, imagine you didnt get the first free thing but you got the second and they are taking the second away but letting everyone who got the first keep it. Life is seldom fair, but isnt it a companys job to treat its customers as fairly as possible? Do issues like these incentivize you and make you wanna play more and buy more items? they just make me feel angry, not just for myself but for everyone else who feels jerked around by things like this.

Yea its funny how sometimes wg can conviently do things and sometimes they conveniently cant

 

I actually just don't really care, either way.

The ships that got the free permanent camo are "bad" to "acceptable"

 

Fubuki, acceptable

Hatsuharu, not even worth keeping

Akatsuki, acceptable

Kagero, not worth keeping

Yugumo, acceptable

 

I would much rather have my Kagero camo swapped to Akizuki or Shiratsuyu, because these ships I can see myself playing for a while.

[knightwolf1]

Well what if it was for akizuki or shiratsuyu? Meet me half way you cant tell me you wouldn't be upset in this situation? and ultimately this issue isnt just about me or you or even everyone in this post. its about the entire community. its about how everyone will feel. its about everyone who benefited and everyone who didn't. 

[bremen_]

Quite wrong actually, if a bank makes an error of any sort and gives someone money by accident, under united states law that money officially belongs to the account owner and that's all there is to it. 

This is very wrong.  If money is put into your account mistakenly the bank WILL take it back.  If you spend it jailtime is possible.

[MrDeaf]

Well what if it was for akizuki or shiratsuyu? Meet me half way you cant tell me you wouldn't be upset in this situation? and ultimately this issue isnt just about me or you or even everyone in this post. its about the entire community. its about how everyone will feel. its about everyone who benefited and everyone who didn't. 

 

situation would still be "meh, whatever", because T8 and under don't really need permanent camo any longer.

Lots of free camo can be had from crates and these two ships are quite good at making credits.

[JCC45]

 

are you talking about the Arp ships or the IJN DD camos cause well they stated right there in the patch notes http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-515/

 

Permanent Camouflage

If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Hatsuharu VII before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Hatsuharu VI and Akatsuki VII are added to the player's account as replacements.
If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Fubuki VIII before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Kagero VIII and Fubuki VII are added to the player's account as replacements.
If a player purchased the permanent camouflage for Kagero IX before the update went live, this camouflage is removed from the player's account; permanent camouflages for Yugumo IX and Kagero VIII are added to the player's account as replacements.

 

pretty sure only reason people recently rebought the ships and got the camo for it. now they are saying they are going to remove it all lol. why have that crap in the patch notes then say its a mistake.

 

And if you BOUGHT the camo then you will KEEP the camo.

 

However when they rolled out the new IJN DDs everyone got the camo, regardless of whether or not they bought it.

 

So the people who DIDN'T PAY for it are the ones having it REMOVED.  The people who BOUGHT it are KEEPING it.

 

Try to keep up.

 

 

 

Text bolded for the ADD types.

[JCC45]

 

Quite wrong actually, if a bank makes an error of any sort and gives someone money by accident, under united states law that money officially belongs to the account owner and that's all there is to it. 

 

Swing and a miss.

 

http://www.forbes.co...r/#63be40b348da

 

https://www.quora.co...e-their-mistake

 

https://www.thebalan...account-2386128

[Mulletproof]

I sold the fubuki off...

...and got doubloon credit for the sold camo?

 

Shhhhhh....

[Sir_Apocolypse]

wait, so i bought a tier 8 premium camo, and now its a tier 6 premium camo.......with a cost difference of about 2000 doubloons, yet no credit for it?   this was done well....NOT.

[Super_Dreadnought]

wait, so i bought a tier 8 premium camo, and now its a tier 6 premium camo.......with a cost difference of about 2000 doubloons, yet no credit for it?   this was done well....NOT.

Camo mass handout bug aside. If you bought the premium camo for VIII Fubuki before the split, when the split happened you had premium camo unlocked for both VIII Kagero and VI Fubuki. It was basically buy-one-get-one-free.

 

Whether you use Kagero is another matter, but you didn't lose anything.

[Sir_Apocolypse]

Camo mass handout bug aside. If you bought the premium camo for VIII Fubuki before the split, when the split happened you had premium camo unlocked for both VIII Kagero and VI Fubuki. It was basically buy-one-get-one-free.

 

Whether you use Kagero is another matter, but you didn't lose anything.

 

ok, thanks, ill check that.