256 [WG-CC] Sharkbait_416 [WG-CC] Wiki Editor, Members 855 posts 9,538 battles Report post #1 Posted November 27, 2016 Would anyone be interested in a historical game mode where nations fight in missions? US vs IJN, RN vs KMS, etc. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,110 [KSF] yashma -Members- 5,295 posts 9,217 battles Report post #2 Posted November 27, 2016 Definitely. Or at least make historical events from time to time 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
83 Zim_Xero Members 765 posts 2,849 battles Report post #3 Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Would be cool one available to play at all times on a rotating basis. Would need to be off the stats though. Some battles would generate long queue lines.... The Battle of Midway for instance, because it would require 2 to 4 carriers per side. Maybe this would be better for PvE, instead. Edited November 27, 2016 by Zim_Xero Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
453 [TAZ] Nutaz Members 1,115 posts Report post #4 Posted November 27, 2016 Definitely would love to play this mode. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
8 [PNGYN] Bluewolf_1976 Members 46 posts Report post #5 Posted November 27, 2016 that would be a blast! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
206 AquaSquirrel Members 1,228 posts 6,330 battles Report post #6 Posted November 27, 2016 In b4 USN always loses Bust yes I would like that, bad ships be damned! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
25 Fubuki_chan_ Members 417 posts 22 battles Report post #7 Posted November 27, 2016 This would be cool, id want to play pearl harbour :p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
15 [RLGN] _James_T_Kirk Members 165 posts 11,831 battles Report post #8 Posted November 27, 2016 Would anyone be interested in a historical game mode where nations fight in missions? US vs IJN, RN vs KMS, etc. I thought about the lack of this mode too. It only makes sense. Perhaps it's because not all lines are fleshed out? For now, we should have Axis vs Allies though. I don't think the queue would be very long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
93 DukeRust Members 364 posts 7,614 battles Report post #9 Posted November 27, 2016 Yeah, it would be fun. A handicap with games like these are that the individual tanks/planes/ships attempt to be balanced. But they weren't balanced. The great battles were great because of uneven numbers and strategy. So, sure, you can have a vastly better Yamato, just know you're going to be outnumbered 3:1 (500:1?). Same with Tiger vs. Sherman or whatever. When you force teams to be even, you force the individual weapons to be balanced to one another--or everyone ends up taking only the OP stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,093 battles Report post #10 Posted November 27, 2016 They had it in WoT and it was a compelte fail. By teams per nation you had complete teams of French autoloaders. Wasn't that much fun for the other teams. Then they tried historical battles but they fail since everyone want to play his fav tank and not the others that needed to be played. Which lead that you waited so long in the queue till you gave up or got kicked. This also excluded some nations. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
1,122 Battleship_DukeofYork Members 1,650 posts 1,608 battles Report post #11 Posted November 27, 2016 Would anyone be interested in a historical game mode where nations fight in missions? US vs IJN, RN vs KMS, etc. Would love it. I don't really care for the current mishmash. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
194 BadNews420 Members 555 posts 11,596 battles Report post #12 Posted November 27, 2016 This would be cool, id want to play pearl harbour :p Ok you play your Arizona and i will play IJN 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,140 [MCWF] K1ra_Yoshikage Beta Testers, In AlfaTesters 7,026 posts 29,093 battles Report post #13 Posted November 27, 2016 Next problem is that there are ships missing for historical battles. I look especially at you USS Helena... Or the HMS Glorious... Kaga and Akagi... the Northampton class is only a premium... we have no RN BB and DD tree... yeah the list is long. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,361 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,649 posts 7,316 battles Report post #14 Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) Would prefer this mode actually, even if it has to be muddled down to Allies vs Axis or Allies vs Central Powers. Because with all the ships being random, it's nothing more then a test of the ship's capabilities fighting ships they weren't meant to fight. Plus, the screenshots look awkward when you have a USN and IJN WWII ships in formation with each other, working together. And it always feels a bit awkward firing at a ship from the same nation as your sailing at the moment. Edited November 27, 2016 by Sventex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
894 Vaidency Members 1,480 posts 8,824 battles Report post #15 Posted November 27, 2016 The biggest problem would be a lack of reasonably balanced historical battles with appropriate numbers of ships. Something like Jutland would obviously be pretty much impossible because the game's engine couldn't handle that many ships and shells at once. There are only about a dozen or so battles from both world wars that might be even reasonably workable. Most historical battles had a serious advantage in firepower for one side that would make the current matchmaker look absolutely flawless by comparison. People gripe so much about the MM now, just imagine the whining about historical battles like Coral Sea where one side had more CV's than the other, Guadalcanal where only one side has BB's, or Savo Island where one player ends up in a Tenryu against enemies in tier 8's. And then there's the torpedo soup, because most historical fleet compositions were really heavy on the DD's. Do you think it'd be a lot of fun to play a WoWS version of Cape Matapan with 17 DD's on each team? And don't forget almost all historical battles would effectively be on the "Ocean" map that most players hate, because real 20th century fleets didn't fight near islands. Such a game mode probably wouldn't really work out all that well in practice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
894 Vaidency Members 1,480 posts 8,824 battles Report post #16 Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) If they did an Allies vs Central Powers / Axis mode there'd be an obvious problem with the Japanese (and later the Italians) since they were in the Allies in WW1 but joined the Axis in WW2. In fact, since the Germans were the only major naval power on the Central Powers, there'd be nothing but German ships against everyone else for the lower tiers of this mode. Edited November 27, 2016 by Vaidency Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
3,361 [REVY] Royeaux Members 9,649 posts 7,316 battles Report post #17 Posted November 27, 2016 (edited) The biggest problem would be a lack of reasonably balanced historical battles with appropriate numbers of ships. Something like Jutland would obviously be pretty much impossible because the game's engine couldn't handle that many ships and shells at once. There are only about a dozen or so battles from both world wars that might be even reasonably workable. The opening skirmish at Jutland with the Battlercruisers fleets should be entirely doable, 6 British Battlecruisers vs 5 German Battlecruisers. Or more interesting, the 5th Battle Squadron having successfully sail though the High Seas fleet to follow Beatty, If they did an Allies vs Central Powers / Axis mode there'd be an obvious problem with the Japanese (and later the Italians) since they were in the Allies in WW1 but joined the Axis in WW2. Hence there would be a tier limit. The Allies (Big Entente Powers) would not be able to use the Yamato, since that was WWII ship. Edited November 27, 2016 by Sventex Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
11 Liopleurodon6 Members 90 posts 764 battles Report post #18 Posted November 27, 2016 They had it in WoT and it was a compelte fail. By teams per nation you had complete teams of French autoloaders. Wasn't that much fun for the other teams. Then they tried historical battles but they fail since everyone want to play his fav tank and not the others that needed to be played. Which lead that you waited so long in the queue till you gave up or got kicked. This also excluded some nations. They could probably afford to make put you into a random ship, matchmaking just randomly popping you into a ship (Maybe you could choose which side you were on, but not the ship class) Also, there's been another forum topic about this http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/102031-historic-battles-in-team-play/#topmost Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,110 [KSF] yashma -Members- 5,295 posts 9,217 battles Report post #19 Posted November 27, 2016 I can just imagine an entire team of Bismarks bum rushing an entire team of bow on reversing North Carolinas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2,291 [SYN] Kuckoo Members 5,949 posts 13,841 battles Report post #20 Posted November 27, 2016 Would anyone be interested in a historical game mode where nations fight in missions? US vs IJN, RN vs KMS, etc. +1 I often wonder why this isn't already a thing in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
726 [WOLF1] Happy668 Members 3,298 posts Report post #21 Posted November 27, 2016 They had it in WoT and it was a compelte fail. By teams per nation you had complete teams of French autoloaders. Wasn't that much fun for the other teams. Then they tried historical battles but they fail since everyone want to play his fav tank and not the others that needed to be played. Which lead that you waited so long in the queue till you gave up or got kicked. This also excluded some nations. I would love one day when technology allows, different servers fight each other, like US fight IJN or RN, closest to WWIII Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 [SOSL] Formerly_Wu Members 147 posts 7,641 battles Report post #22 Posted November 27, 2016 I don't think this needs all the fuss of re-creating historical battles ship for ship. Just a mode where, when you queue up, you're only teamed with members of your nation. Loosen up the tiering system a bit so you can have reasonable queue times and a better variety of ships in play and Bob's your uncle. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
203 icyplanetnhc Members 385 posts 2,475 battles Report post #23 Posted November 27, 2016 I'd love to see this for PvE. It may even be a part of a full fledged campaign. PvP, not so much, as you would get some ludicrous imbalances. For instance, you'd get a single tier 5 Kirishima against two tier 8, South Dakota and Washington. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
256 [WG-CC] Sharkbait_416 [WG-CC] Wiki Editor, Members 855 posts 9,538 battles Report post #24 Posted November 28, 2016 I don't think this needs all the fuss of re-creating historical battles ship for ship. Just a mode where, when you queue up, you're only teamed with members of your nation. Loosen up the tiering system a bit so you can have reasonable queue times and a better variety of ships in play and Bob's your uncle. This is more what I was thinking - Historical battles would be cool in PvE, but PvP would be national battles, Axis v Allies. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
45 Darth_Caedus_ Members 314 posts 2,035 battles Report post #25 Posted November 28, 2016 I would love national battles. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
