Team killing need revamping

[General_Strom]

I have never been pink because I killed a team member since the days of Beta Wot.  I place 2 torpedoes and hit a stupid player who decided to charge the ship I fired torpedoes at and he sinks and I did 25 points of damage to the Transylvania and Now I am pink a team killer.  WG you seriously need to lighten up.  Tired of seeing WARNINGS every time someone scratches the paint by hitting a ship with their own.  Team killer was designed to punish someone who deliberately sank or killed another player.  Not the poor rule you have now!

[Noshiro_]

You hit him with torps, you cop the punishment. 

[Tordenskiold]

The only rewamp the TK system needs is some tweaking. Right now it's "the boy who cried wolf" and frankly noone cares if you are pink. Since there are so many pinks out there, it's no shame anymore being pink.

[HooterStump]

We could revamp the TK system ourselves by not firing torpedoes when allies are ahead of us.

[Paulo2011]

The fact that you are so upset with going pink means that the system is working. It was meant to be a badge of dishonor that no one wants to wears.

 

That said I agree that we need a revamp. I've posted it before and I'll keep doing so hoping it will catch a bit of notice. We  need a button that offers forgiveness. Message the player you sank and ask, and if he agrees then he clicks the button and you are automatically back in good standing. I've been sunk a couple of times by pure accident and twice now I've been sunk by players who did the exact right thing by taking the risky shot and killing me by chance. I'm sure I'm not alone in thinking that a sincere apology is enough to at least give you an option of losing pink status.

Note that in the OP's post he slams the other player calling them "stupid" Therefore he is not a gentlemen, is making excuses and does not deserve any consideration. Wear it because you deserve it.

[yUPPatriots]

Overall the new team damage and team kill system have been positive. The downside (in coop) has been no compensation for either of them since 2 patches ago.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Moonrider]

I was careless, got spanked for it, now i'm crying about it.

 

[Deputy276]

In WOT, WG are able to punish people based on who hit who first, as far as ramming/scraping/bumping into. No reason why they can't do it here. I don't see why a person who is standing still and not moving at all should be penalized because a team mate who is in zoomed-in view and running full speed plows into you. Yet it happens all the time. Same with a fast ship running into a slow BB. Not like you can suddenly hit the turbo button to speed up because someone running full speed in a Destroyer decides to look behind him the whole time. 

My complaint with TKing isn't turning pink. It's the crap about needing 5 games to get rid of it. I have yet to get out of pink (been pink 3 times) with just 5 games. It ALWAYS takes more than 5 to get out of pink. If it's based on games played PLUS damage, WG should say so. I don't want to know the exact amount of damage needed to get out of it, but at least be honest and tell folks it's based on 5 games or MORE, based on damage done.

[vak_]

I place 2 torpedoes and hit a stupid player who decided to charge the ship I fired torpedoes at

 

"Charged"? As in, he was close enough to do that? As in, you fired torpedoes into brawling ships, and are pissed off that one of them didn't sail in a straight line?

 

You deserve the TK status 100%. I strongly suggest you don't do this in the future.

 

Team killer was designed to punish someone who deliberately sank or killed another player.  Not the poor rule you have now!

 

Deliberate team killers get banned. Pink status is meant to punish careless players. Seems it did the job just fine in your case.

[IceSerpen7]

The only rewamp the TK system needs is some tweaking. Right now it's "the boy who cried wolf" and frankly noone cares if you are pink. Since there are so many pinks out there, it's no shame anymore being pink.

 

To be fair, there's some shame, along the lines of "this player is a proverbial monkey with a hand grenade".

[Cpt_RickSchwifty]

If you want to fast track your breast cancer awareness status back to normal, play CVs.

 

They dont get rammed, they dont hit friendly ships, and its fun to have tons of pink planes all over.

 

Ive gone pink for the same reasons as most, I fired some torps and what WAS a clear shot on a BB ended up killing an ally that thought getting to within 1km of them was a good idea.

 

 

[DingBat]

I don't have any problem with the current system.

 

The only issue I have is when I am pink and a simple, small collision with a friendly is counted as "friendly fire" which extends the pink period. Dumb.

 

[Ulthwey]

Team killing should be legalized, I cant even begin to recal how many times I wanted to bust a cap in some braindead creature on my team who either isnt doing anything at all or talking so much smack it makes your ears bleed. People like than need to die, by fellow team mates hand if necessary.

[HMCS_Devilfish]

Manup yea scoundrel, yea sank yer Bucko, sad as it be ..yea launch torps ...yea own em

That. B all yea scurby dog

[Admiral_Piete]

In WOT, WG are able to punish people based on who hit who first, as far as ramming/scraping/bumping into. No reason why they can't do it here. I don't see why a person who is standing still and not moving at all should be penalized because a team mate who is in zoomed-in view and running full speed plows into you. Yet it happens all the time. Same with a fast ship running into a slow BB. Not like you can suddenly hit the turbo button to speed up because someone running full speed in a Destroyer decides to look behind him the whole time. 

My complaint with TKing isn't turning pink. It's the crap about needing 5 games to get rid of it. I have yet to get out of pink (been pink 3 times) with just 5 games. It ALWAYS takes more than 5 to get out of pink. If it's based on games played PLUS damage, WG should say so. I don't want to know the exact amount of damage needed to get out of it, but at least be honest and tell folks it's based on 5 games or MORE, based on damage done.

Yeah I know that pain. The one time I was pink, every other battle someone would run into me, get me a warning, and extend it.

[Defiler_of_Reds]

We could revamp the TK system ourselves by not firing torpedoes when allies are ahead of us.

 

Well I've been pink 6 times in the week-ish I've been playing. There is no real disadvantage if your usual infraction is accidentally hitting someone with 8 torpedoes. If there were penalties for running into islands I would be in big trouble. Mostly it was having no idea what I was doing, but the last time I was too focused on the target and killed a cruiser I should have seen and avoided with my torpedoes.

 

Edit: sigh - 7 times. 

[Nergy]

Yes lets reflect 150% of any team damage to the offender.

[Happy668]

all damage to allies should be bounced back to self, that will be good change

 

[Gully_Foyle_AS128127006]

A few days ago I sent some torps in front of a friendly DD lurking in his smoke.   He was waiting for the same BB I was stalking.  I knew he would stay put because if he left his smoke he had to go around the corner to get his shot and between the BB and a CL in the area, it would be suicide.  Of course, I was wrong about that.  Just as I shot he decided to leap out of the smoke he had only just activated.  I warned him of the torps but no dice, he went to the bottom and I went pink.  No big deal.  Happens.  

Today, in the Halloween scenario, a dd sends torps ACROSS the ring circling the Transylvania at god knows what, almost hits me and it, and I tell him he's dding wrong.  

 

Naturally, he starts shooting guns and torps at me so, more curious about the TK system in the Halloween scenario than anything, I'm in the Igor, I quickly delete him.  And I DON'T turn pink. 
And I still earned my 3 Halloween paints.   

[Defiler_of_Reds]

all damage to allies should be bounced back to self, that will be good change

 

That is what happens if you have team killer status. There are either a lot of other scripts running or some major glitches, because there are often very weird interactions that make no sense

[MrDeaf]

Team killing should be legalized, I cant even begin to recal how many times I wanted to bust a cap in some braindead creature on my team who either isnt doing anything at all or talking so much smack it makes your ears bleed. People like than need to die, by fellow team mates hand if necessary.

 

just wow... the attitude is... yeah.

best of wishes to you sir.

 

as for people talking smack, you can put them on ignore. You can also send in reports.

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last time I went pink was because I hit a ship for 75dmg and sunk him by accident.

[General_Strom]

You hit him with torps, you cop the punishment. 

 

Seriously this was not my fault that a DD charged the ship like he was going to ram and got hit.   Beyond whose fault is was. The point of a penalty for team killers is to punish folks to deliberately do so. This is Not happening.

[General_Strom]

 

 

Troll you will go to hell some day.

[Noshiro_]

 

Seriously this was not my fault that a DD charged the ship like he was going to ram and got hit.   Beyond whose fault is was. The point of a penalty for team killers is to punish folks to deliberately do so. This is Not happening.

 

It is also meant to stop people inadvertently firing torps at everything without being aware what happens. It's only a 5 game penalty, you should get rid of it quickly

[Asassian7]

We could revamp the TK system ourselves by not firing torpedoes when allies are ahead of us.

Ive been pink a few times.

 

Every single time, its because Ive waited for a teammate to sail past my torp firing solution, fired them, and then the dunderhead turns around and sails straight into them. 

 

You cant do anything about people who actually TRY to take friendly torp hits. 

 

Other than that, i find that the TK system in ships is pretty fair. Turn pink, and any team damage you do gets reflected on you instead. I once watched a pink player in a cruiser torp a friendly BB, and just evaporated from full HP because of it.